Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[vbnetkhio]

Did you remove the non European Ancients ?

no, just the very old ones

Why not make all samples circa early Middle Ages like early Czech

there isn't enough samples in the sheet for that. i think there are no iron age or medieval Germanics, just bronze age

[Dick]

no, just the very old ones



there isn't enough samples in the sheet for that. i think there are no iron age or medieval Germanics, just bronze age

Then it belongs in the trash compactor

[Moje ime]

first 2 samples are mixed, it doesn't work well without them because there isn't enough good samples in the spreadsheet.

Czech is Slavic+Celto-Germanic, and the Goth is Germanic+ Middle Eastern and Anatolian.
the rest is Middle Eastern, except Sunghir who is a pure Slav and Hebrides is similar to Germanics.

So it seems that your non-Slavic and non-Germanic part is mostly Middle Eastern, and not native Balkanic, at least in this calculator.

Btw aren't those distances just a model that shows how far my result is among all those spots/samples, not actual admixture of those samples? Like when calculators show 50% Greek + 50% Russian for South Slavs but that is just a distance, not actual mix.

[vbnetkhio]

Btw aren't those distances just a model that shows how far my result is among all those spots/samples, not actual admixture of those samples? Like when calculators show 50% Greek + 50% Russian for South Slavs but that is just a distance, not actual mix.

no, these are distances:


the models attempt to show admixture. 50% Greek + 50% Russian can also mean 50% something similar to Greeks (Thracians etc.) and 50% something similar to Russians. or it could just be wrong in some cases. depends on how good is the calculator and the spreadsheet.

[Moje ime]

mine:



here Sunghir6 represents my Slavic admixture, and the rest is a breakdown of my non-Slavic admixture.

You actually have similar result as I with non-Slavic ancestry represented with Anatolian and Kurdish samples.

It seems it appears for all more southern parts of Balkan ancestry like from Montenegro or Bulgaria.
Try with any more southern shifted Serbian result I think it will be the same.

[Dušan]

You actually have similar result as I with non-Slavic ancestry represented with Anatolian and Kurdish samples.

It seems it appears for all more southern parts of Balkan ancestry like from Montenegro or Bulgaria.
Try with any more southern shifted Serbian result I think it will be the same.

Try x0.25 x0.5. Maybe you will get Italy then.

[Ford]

K15 Ancient

Distance to: Ford
15.74004765 BR2_Hungary
16.05211513 MedievalHungarian_DA199
16.84800582 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.71231492 Sunghir6
18.90201577 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
18.93118855 Bavaria_STR310
19.79657799 Ostuni1
20.38105002 Scythian_SCY311
21.42811004 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
21.67663950 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
22.01707065 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
23.00348669 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
23.13961106 EarlyBA_PL_N17
23.50812625 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
23.93767741 Srubnaya_I0232
24.13461207 BronzAgeBalkan
24.28246898 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
24.52970037 BeakerBritain_I2443
24.77056317 IA_Ardea_R851
24.80518897 Andronovo_RISE505
25.47298373 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
25.70441207 Scythian_I0247
25.76330918 MigrationPeriod_DA119
25.99076759 Andronovo_RISE500
26.06695418 IA_Civitavecchia_R473

Target: Ford
Distance: 0.6590% / 0.65900650
31.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
31.0 Sunghir6
24.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
7.6 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
1.6 ArmenianEBA_I1633
1.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
1.2 KurdistanChalcolithic_I1662
0.8 GoldenHorde_DA28
0.6 Kura_Araxes
0.4 ChalcolithicIranian

[Moje ime]

K15 Ancient

Distance to: Ford
15.74004765 BR2_Hungary
16.05211513 MedievalHungarian_DA199
16.84800582 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.71231492 Sunghir6
18.90201577 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
18.93118855 Bavaria_STR310
19.79657799 Ostuni1
20.38105002 Scythian_SCY311
21.42811004 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
21.67663950 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
22.01707065 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
23.00348669 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
23.13961106 EarlyBA_PL_N17
23.50812625 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
23.93767741 Srubnaya_I0232
24.13461207 BronzAgeBalkan
24.28246898 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
24.52970037 BeakerBritain_I2443
24.77056317 IA_Ardea_R851
24.80518897 Andronovo_RISE505
25.47298373 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
25.70441207 Scythian_I0247
25.76330918 MigrationPeriod_DA119
25.99076759 Andronovo_RISE500
26.06695418 IA_Civitavecchia_R473

Target: Ford
Distance: 0.6590% / 0.65900650
31.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
31.0 Sunghir6
24.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
7.6 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
1.6 ArmenianEBA_I1633
1.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
1.2 KurdistanChalcolithic_I1662
0.8 GoldenHorde_DA28
0.6 Kura_Araxes
0.4 ChalcolithicIranian

See - Armenia, Kurdistan, similar as in my and vbnetkhio results, like I said it will obviously show up for any Serbian southeastern part of K15 result. Dusan probably is really much northern shifted so it doesn't appear. It's ancient admixture.

Does someone have K15 average result for Serbs?

[Dick]

no, these are distances:


the models attempt to show admixture. 50% Greek + 50% Russian can also mean 50% something similar to Greeks (Thracians etc.) and 50% something similar to Russians. or it could just be wrong in some cases. depends on how good is the calculator and the spreadsheet.

Can you run the samples without the very ancient ones(MesolithicNeolithicSerbia etc)


Dick-dad,20.90,11.87,22.52,10.41,11.57,7.07,11.69,1.73, 1.24,0.00,0.00,0.47,0.53,0.00,0.00

[Bosniensis]

Can you run the samples without the very ancient ones(MesolithicNeolithicSerbia etc)


Dick-dad,20.90,11.87,22.52,10.41,11.57,7.07,11.69,1.73, 1.24,0.00,0.00,0.47,0.53,0.00,0.00

Is there Bavaria_STR310 gedmatch ID somewhere? I would like to compare it with other samples to see how mixed it is?