Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[vbnetkhio]

Can you run the samples without the very ancient ones(MesolithicNeolithicSerbia etc)


Dick-dad,20.90,11.87,22.52,10.41,11.57,7.07,11.69,1.73, 1.24,0.00,0.00,0.47,0.53,0.00,0.00

[Moje ime]

first 2 samples are mixed, it doesn't work well without them because there isn't enough good samples in the spreadsheet.

Czech is Slavic+Celto-Germanic, and the Goth is Germanic+ Middle Eastern and Anatolian.
the rest is Middle Eastern, except Sunghir who is a pure Slav and Hebrides is similar to Germanics.

So it seems that your non-Slavic and non-Germanic part is mostly Middle Eastern, and not native Balkanic, at least in this calculator.

So as vbnetkhio said to me in private message, it is not problem with results but with bad calculator.

If there already exist Illyrian and Thracian samples and if I get Illyrian sample BronzAgeBalkan in distances list then it
would have more logic to get it in combined model distances as well instead of those Middle Eastern.

This is message to Lukasz

[Thracian]

Target: MI
Distance: 2.3308% / 2.33081040 | ADC: 0.25x
32.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
30.0 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
19.8 ArmeniaCA_I1631
8.4 Sunghir6
5.4 CheddarMan
2.6 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
1.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.6 Srubnaya_I0232

Here is the kit #M926386 if you want to check oracle's. It seems it can be modeled as European+Caucasian and somehow, I usually see many Balkanites get Caucasians. Canaaite is a noise, clearly.

[Impaler]

Here is the kit #M926386 if you want to check oracle's. It seems it can be modeled as European+Caucasian and somehow, I usually see many Balkanites get Caucasians. Canaaite is a noise, clearly.

This is what I have with 0.25x


Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.5511% / 4.55112800 | ADC: 0.25x
32.8 Bavaria_STR310
17.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
13.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.8 Kipchak_DA179
7.2 Carpathian_Oase1
7.0 Sunghir6
3.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

[Teutonski]

This is what I have with 0.25x


Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.5511% / 4.55112800 | ADC: 0.25x
32.8 Bavaria_STR310
17.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
13.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.8 Kipchak_DA179
7.2 Carpathian_Oase1
7.0 Sunghir6
3.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

Merry Christmas to you and your family bro

[Thracian]

This is what I have with 0.25x


Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.5511% / 4.55112800 | ADC: 0.25x
32.8 Bavaria_STR310
17.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
13.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.8 Kipchak_DA179
7.2 Carpathian_Oase1
7.0 Sunghir6
3.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

This is odd! What you get without Bavaria? I get them including Bavaria. (FTDNA and 23andMe kits, relatively).

Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.6816% / 2.68156609 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
29.8 Sarmatian_Pokrovka_I0575
7.8 IA_Ardea_R850
5.2 Kipchak_DA179
5.0 Sunghir6
4.6 ArmeniaCA_I1631
3.8 JordanEBA_I1705

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 4.5652% / 4.56516557 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 IA_Ardea_R850
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
13.6 Sunghir6
11.4 Ottoman_MA2196
4.4 WC1_Iran
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
1.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

[Impaler]

Merry Christmas to you and your family bro

Same to you, my German friend.

[Impaler]

This is odd! What you get without Bavaria? I get them including Bavaria. (FTDNA and 23andMe kits, relatively).

Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.6816% / 2.68156609 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
29.8 Sarmatian_Pokrovka_I0575
7.8 IA_Ardea_R850
5.2 Kipchak_DA179
5.0 Sunghir6
4.6 ArmeniaCA_I1631
3.8 JordanEBA_I1705

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 4.5652% / 4.56516557 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 IA_Ardea_R850
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
13.6 Sunghir6
11.4 Ottoman_MA2196
4.4 WC1_Iran
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
1.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

Without Bavaria:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.4641% / 4.46409864 | ADC: 0.25x
24.8 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
12.4 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
9.4 Kipchak_DA179
8.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
8.0 GoyetQ116_1
5.2 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
4.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
3.6 Carpathian_Oase1
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.6 Crimean_Goth_KER1
1.4 Kangju_DA125

[Voskos]

Vahaduo is an unreliable statistical tool. I'm fully cretan and yet this calc gives me 0 of my own ethnicity, despite the fact the cretan average is included in the data .

[Thracian]

Without Bavaria:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.4641% / 4.46409864 | ADC: 0.25x
24.8 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
12.4 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
9.4 Kipchak_DA179
8.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
8.0 GoyetQ116_1
5.2 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
4.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
3.6 Carpathian_Oase1
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.6 Crimean_Goth_KER1
1.4 Kangju_DA125

This is still odd. Obviously, we need more samples. Your Canaaite score would have been lower.