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    Default Sarmatian DNA

    Sarmatian man from Western Central Asia. Lived appx. 2000 years ago.

    Y-DNA: I2a2a2>P78>A427
    mtDNA: U4

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Tabassaran @ 26.069859
    2 Chechen @ 29.342827
    3 Lezgin @ 29.426067
    4 Tadjik @ 30.928865
    5 Tatar @ 30.972712
    6 Nogay @ 31.904779
    7 Moldavian @ 32.224003
    8 Hungarian @ 32.414951
    9 Kabardin @ 32.704601
    10 Austrian @ 33.305756
    11 Croatian @ 33.500935
    12 Kumyk @ 33.904972
    13 East_German @ 34.049694
    14 Serbian @ 34.090179
    15 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 34.329460
    16 North_German @ 34.464638
    17 South_Polish @ 34.608498
    18 Romanian @ 34.833897
    19 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 34.851231
    20 Balkar @ 35.203362

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_Swedish +50% Tabassaran @ 12.820446


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_Swedish +25% Tabassaran +25% Tabassaran @ 12.820446


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Finnish + Norwegian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.551449
    2 Finnish + Irish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.573619
    3 Balochi + Finnish + Norwegian + Tabassaran @ 12.629839
    4 Finnish + Swedish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.658642
    5 North_Swedish + Swedish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.685355
    6 Finnish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran + West_Scottish @ 12.734752
    7 East_Finnish + Irish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.763301
    8 Estonian + Irish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.764986
    9 Balochi + Finnish + Swedish + Tabassaran @ 12.768894
    10 Estonian + Norwegian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.774464
    11 Southwest_Finnish + Swedish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.797937
    12 Balochi + Estonian + Norwegian + Tabassaran @ 12.804678
    13 East_Finnish + Norwegian + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.805106
    14 Finnish + North_Dutch + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.811267
    15 Norwegian + Southwest_Finnish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.812865
    16 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.820446
    17 Finnish + North_German + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.821300
    18 Swedish + Swedish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.829807
    19 Danish + Finnish + Tabassaran + Tabassaran @ 12.859455
    20 Brahui + Finnish + Norwegian + Tabassaran @ 12.863484

    K13 results;

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    Thanks, interesting...

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    Hunno-Sarmatian man from the Same area during the Great Migration. Appx. 1550 years ago. Huge difference.

    Y-DNA: R1a-Z93*
    mtDNA: C4b1

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Mongolian @ 8.377267
    2 Buryat @ 10.947667
    3 Tuvinian @ 12.496634
    4 Altaian @ 16.279469
    5 Oroqen @ 19.406195
    6 Kirgiz @ 22.015978
    7 Hakas @ 23.978001
    8 Hezhen @ 24.622202
    9 Kazakh @ 24.726803
    10 Xibo @ 25.698355
    11 Shors @ 28.516983
    12 Yakut @ 28.934753
    13 Koryak @ 32.067329
    14 Dolgan @ 34.014492
    15 Evenki @ 34.884842
    16 Chukchi @ 36.154663
    17 Ket @ 36.648209
    18 Tu @ 36.830055
    19 Evens @ 37.365795
    20 Japanese @ 38.490749

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dolgan +50% Tu @ 3.576611


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Dolgan +25% Mongolian +25% She @ 2.754218


    Using 4 populations approximation:
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    1 Altaian + Dolgan + Oroqen + Tujia @ 2.623868
    2 Evenki + Tujia + Tuvinian + Tuvinian @ 2.742221
    3 Dolgan + Dolgan + Mongolian + She @ 2.754218
    4 Evenki + Hakas + Oroqen + Tujia @ 2.840075
    5 Evens + Tujia + Tuvinian + Tuvinian @ 2.841961
    6 Altaian + Dolgan + Miaozu + Oroqen @ 2.850740
    7 Evens + Miaozu + Tuvinian + Tuvinian @ 2.985106
    8 Dolgan + Mongolian + She + Yakut @ 2.992563
    9 Evenki + Hakas + Miaozu + Oroqen @ 2.992683
    10 Dolgan + Miaozu + Mongolian + Yakut @ 2.992998
    11 Evenki + Oroqen + Shors + Tujia @ 2.997734
    12 Japanese + Oroqen + Oroqen + Shors @ 3.009161
    13 Altaian + Dolgan + Oroqen + She @ 3.009501
    14 Evens + Hakas + Oroqen + She @ 3.015256
    15 Evens + Hakas + Miaozu + Oroqen @ 3.026571
    16 Evenki + Miaozu + Tuvinian + Tuvinian @ 3.026726
    17 Evens + Hakas + Oroqen + Tujia @ 3.032455
    18 Dolgan + Evenki + Mongolian + She @ 3.042571
    19 Altaian + Japanese + Oroqen + Tuvinian @ 3.055608
    20 Dolgan + Tujia + Tuvinian + Tuvinian @ 3.059857

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    The first guy was basically a weird kind of white.

    Population
    Gedrosia 25.99 Pct
    Siberian 6.69 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 10.58 Pct
    North_European 40.37 Pct
    South_Asian 1.28 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian -
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 14.18 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.91 Pct

    Target: Sarmat
    Distance: 4.1137% / 4.11369597
    31.8 Lithuanians
    24.8 Lezgins
    22.0 Brahui
    8.8 Selkup
    6.4 Argyll
    6.2 Norwegian

    * * *

    Population
    S-Indian 0.58 Pct
    Baloch 28.28 Pct
    Caucasian 14.70 Pct
    NE-Euro 39.52 Pct
    SE-Asian -
    Siberian 6.10 Pct
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan -
    American 1.95 Pct
    Beringian 0.26 Pct
    Mediterranean 7.52 Pct
    SW-Asian -
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African 1.06 Pct

    Target: Sarmat
    Distance: 5.4787% / 5.47871949
    41.6 lithuanian
    27.0 brahui
    22.2 urkarah
    6.8 selkup
    1.6 ket
    0.6 orcadian
    0.2 karitiana

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    The other one was pretty much Asian, close to 90% East Eurasian

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Asian 50.41
    2 Siberian 35.89

    3 North_European 6.29
    4 Southeast_Asian 4.07
    5 Gedrosia 1.59
    6 Northwest_African 0.69
    7 Atlantic_Med 0.66
    8 Sub_Saharan 0.32
    9 East_African 0.07

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 76.9% Daur (HGDP) + 23.1% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 1.7
    2 69% Tuva (Rasmussen) + 31% Korean (Dodecad) @ 2.52
    3 76.8% Daur (HGDP) + 23.2% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 2.56
    4 73.1% Hezhen (HGDP) + 26.9% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 2.99
    5 54.8% Tuva (Rasmussen) + 45.2% Xibo (HGDP) @ 3.14
    6 73.3% Hezhen (HGDP) + 26.7% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 3.47
    7 53.4% Daur (HGDP) + 46.6% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 3.58
    8 51.1% Hezhen (HGDP) + 48.9% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 3.64
    9 52.7% Korean (Dodecad) + 47.3% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 3.9
    10 61.5% Buryat (Rasmussen) + 38.5% Mongola (HGDP) @ 4.2

    * * *

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 48.82
    2 Siberian 36.11

    3 NE-Euro 5.76
    4 Beringian 4.15
    5 Baloch 2.18
    6 Papuan 0.92
    7 Mediterranean 0.69
    8 SE-Asian 0.56
    9 W-African 0.42
    10 Pygmy 0.24
    11 Caucasian 0.16

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 72.4% tuvinian (rasmussen) + 27.6% japanese (1000genomes) @ 2.87
    2 81% daur (hgdp) + 19% selkup (rasmussen) @ 2.99
    3 80% hezhen (hgdp) + 20% selkup (rasmussen) @ 3.24
    4 79.9% hezhen (hgdp) + 20.1% ket (rasmussen) @ 3.44
    5 81% daur (hgdp) + 19% ket (rasmussen) @ 3.48
    6 66.4% tuvinian (rasmussen) + 33.6% aonaga (reich) @ 3.72
    7 65.7% tuvinian (rasmussen) + 34.3% naga (metspalu) @ 3.72
    8 78.4% daur (hgdp) + 21.6% yukaghir (rasmussen) @ 3.78
    9 62.4% hezhen (hgdp) + 37.6% altaian (rasmussen) @ 3.87
    10 77.3% hezhen (hgdp) + 22.7% yukaghir (rasmussen) @ 3.9

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    interesting.
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    Since first top 13. identities are Fake, we can safely assume that Sarmatians are Serbs.

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    Where exactly are those samples from?

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    Nice, but how many SNPs does the first one have on Eurogenes K13? Its seems weird to me that he doesnt score any west or east med.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpFork View Post
    Where exactly are those samples from?
    The first one is from a kurgan found in Nauyrzym Kazakhstan. Second one is from Kostanay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ljubic View Post
    Nice, but how many SNPs does the first one have on Eurogenes K13? Its seems weird to me that he doesnt score any west or east med.
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