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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    you mean the old k15 map? k15 is not very reliable, i don't use it anymore.

    it's probably this one, it's the most northern D.Serb k15 i have, his first 4 components add up to 68%. i only have his k15.

    North_Sea 20.55
    Atlantic 16.22
    Baltic 17.39
    Eastern_Euro 14.31
    West_Med 13.08
    West_Asian 4.08
    East_Med 12.61
    Red_Sea 1.33
    South_Asian 0
    Southeast_Asian 0
    Siberian 0.1
    Amerindian 0
    Oceanian 0.34
    Northeast_African 0
    Sub0Saharan 0
    You don't have his K13?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    You don't have his K13?
    no

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    they are around 50% usually, but Serbs are even higher.
    remember this one from Plav and Cetinje posted by CommonSense, she is 27 and 25, just like the second one:

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    Admix Results (sorted):
    
    #	Population	Percent
    1	North_Atlantic	27.17
    2	Baltic	25.94
    3	East_Med	20.36
    4	West_Med	19.07
    5	West_Asian	5.13
    6	Siberian	1.57
    7	Red_Sea	0.39
    8	Oceanian	0.37
    
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	Serbian	6.68
    2	Romanian	6.84
    3	Bulgarian	8.01
    4	Moldavian	12.51
    5	Hungarian	12.65
    6	Greek_Thessaly	13.77
    7	Croatian	13.97
    8	North_Italian	14.7
    9	Austrian	14.8
    10	Tuscan	15.98
    11	East_German	16.49
    12	French	17.8
    13	West_German	18
    14	Portuguese	18.56
    15	Spanish_Galicia	19.2
    16	South_Dutch	19.35
    17	Italian_Abruzzo	19.58
    18	Spanish_Cataluna	19.61
    19	West_Sicilian	20.01
    20	Spanish_Extremadura	20.11
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	62.9%	Tuscan	+	37.1%	Estonian_Polish	@	4.54
    2	 	63.3%	Tuscan	+	36.7%	Belorussian	@	4.56
    3	 	61.1%	Tuscan	+	38.9%	Southwest_Russian	@	4.66
    4	 	67.1%	Tuscan	+	32.9%	Lithuanian	@	4.72
    5	 	57.4%	Tuscan	+	42.6%	Ukrainian	@	4.8
    6	 	63%	Tuscan	+	37%	Russian_Smolensk	@	5.08
    7	 	66.4%	Tuscan	+	33.6%	Estonian	@	5.14
    8	 	56.5%	Tuscan	+	43.5%	South_Polish	@	5.17
    9	 	89.7%	Serbian	+	10.3%	Sardinian	@	5.19
    10	 	60.8%	West_Sicilian	+	39.2%	Estonian	@	5.21
    11	 	62%	Tuscan	+	38%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	5.27
    12	 	60.8%	Tuscan	+	39.2%	Polish	@	5.37
    13	 	53.9%	Croatian	+	46.1%	Tuscan	@	5.39
    14	 	50.4%	West_Sicilian	+	49.6%	South_Polish	@	5.39
    15	 	64.9%	Tuscan	+	35.1%	Kargopol_Russian	@	5.41
    16	 	57.7%	West_Sicilian	+	42.3%	Belorussian	@	5.52
    17	 	51.4%	West_Sicilian	+	48.6%	Ukrainian	@	5.52
    18	 	56.6%	Tuscan	+	43.4%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	5.56
    19	 	80.2%	Serbian	+	19.8%	Tuscan	@	5.57
    20	 	67.3%	Tuscan	+	32.7%	East_Finnish	@	5.58
    btw, the surnames are Jaric and Djujic.
    Djujić is maybe same person who is tested on y dna (R1a-M458>L1029), and according to whose results is determinated y dna of vojvoda Momčilo Djujić. Tested Djujić live in USA, he have paternal origin from same village as vojvoda. In USA Serbs from various regions are mixed with each other. My cousins full D. Serb which live in Chicago is married for Serb from northern Bosnia, my other cousin D. Serb also from Chicago is married for Serb from Požega in W. Serbia.

    Jarić is R1a-Z280>Y2613. He has a match in y dna with some Croatian from some island, Pašman or something. Jarić tested on y dna is from Zrmanja in southern Lika, close to Dalmatia but not Dalmatia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    you mean the old k15 map? k15 is not very reliable, i don't use it anymore.

    it's probably this one, it's the most northern D.Serb k15 i have, his first 4 components add up to 68%. i only have his k15.

    North_Sea 20.55
    Atlantic 16.22
    Baltic 17.39
    Eastern_Euro 14.31
    West_Med 13.08
    West_Asian 4.08
    East_Med 12.61
    Red_Sea 1.33
    South_Asian 0
    Southeast_Asian 0
    Siberian 0.1
    Amerindian 0
    Oceanian 0.34
    Northeast_African 0
    Sub0Saharan 0
    His position on K15 map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    His position on K15 map.
    [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/IFBeNU8.jpg[/MG]
    way northern than average Serb indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    way northern than average Serb indeed.
    more western, the average Serb is halfway between the Serbian and Croatian points.

    but k15 is not that good anyways.

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    Hmm where I can fit?
    Kosova është zemra e Serbi

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    more western, the average Serb is halfway between the Serbian and Croatian points.

    but k15 is not that good anyways.
    Maybe Krajina Serbs are western shifted due to I1. It's high among Dalmatian Serbs, but Lika Serbs have about Serbian average, and Kordun and Banija Serbs less than Serbian average.
    Also, maybe it's partly connected with clades of R1a which are specific for Krajina Serbs R1a-Z280>YP951 and R1a-Z280>Y2613.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiloshN View Post
    Hmm where I can fit?
    but you didn't test yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Maybe Krajina Serbs are western shifted due to I1. It's high among Dalmatian Serbs, but Lika Serbs have about Serbian average, and Kordun and Banija Serbs less than Serbian average.
    Also, maybe it's partly connected with clades of R1a which are specific for Krajina Serbs R1a-Z280>YP951 and R1a-Z280>Y2613.
    they aren't particularly west shifted. Dušan made a k13 average for Serbs from Croatia, it's only 24.61 North_Atlantic. but Serbs as a whole are more West shifted than i expected.

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