Serbian Autosomal DNA

[CommonSense]

Do you think it's noise? Around 2% S Asian. I'm not saying it can't be but here's a usual TA-style assumption: maybe distant Romani?

You can see MyHeritage just gives her Balkan + Eastern Europe. Among the close matches nobody has any South Asian (mostly people from Croatia), so I don't really know. Race-mixing was extremely rare a hundred years ago, but today it's common outside of Belgrade.

I was wondering about the SNP's. I had noticed the elevated South Asian and did not remember that from your results.
I suppose it's possible that some of her results can be attributable to the lower SNP count, but still may very well be representative of some small variations between you two, quite interesting.

Ayetooey told me to expect some weird noise while I was uploading the data to gedmatch, because his dad got like 2% East Asian, and he was right.

[Dick]

My mom's results:

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Eurogenes K13:

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.18
2 North_Atlantic 22.11
3 East_Med 17.65
4 West_Med 14.53
5 West_Asian 10.12
6 South_Asian 2.81
7 Oceanian 0.6

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.11
2 Serbian 7.3
3 Romanian 8.14
4 Bulgarian 8.83
5 Croatian 9.49
6 Hungarian 11.61
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.01
8 South_Polish 15.8
9 Austrian 15.88
10 Ukrainian 15.92
11 East_German 16.76
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.19
13 Southwest_Russian 18.21
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.41
15 Polish 19.18
16 Russian_Smolensk 20.52
17 Estonian_Polish 20.95
18 Belorussian 21.54
19 West_German 21.9
20 Tatar 22.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.8% Greek_Thessaly + 48.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.32
2 51.5% Greek_Thessaly + 48.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.4
3 68.8% Bulgarian + 31.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.52
4 69.1% Bulgarian + 30.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.58
5 70.9% Ukrainian + 29.1% Cyprian @ 3.63
6 61.3% Southwest_Russian + 38.7% South_Italian @ 3.68
7 76.2% Bulgarian + 23.8% Lithuanian @ 3.7
8 57.2% Southwest_Russian + 42.8% Central_Greek @ 3.72
9 61% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39% South_Italian @ 3.77
10 60.5% Greek_Thessaly + 39.5% Lithuanian @ 3.77
11 72.1% Bulgarian + 27.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.78
12 72.7% Bulgarian + 27.3% Belorussian @ 3.81
13 51.9% Central_Greek + 48.1% Lithuanian @ 3.85
14 71.7% Bulgarian + 28.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.87
15 71.2% South_Polish + 28.8% Cyprian @ 3.89
16 56.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.1% Central_Greek @ 3.92
17 52.4% Lithuanian + 47.6% South_Italian @ 3.93
18 54.6% Greek_Thessaly + 45.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 4
19 55.2% Greek_Thessaly + 44.8% Estonian_Polish @ 4.04
20 53.6% Estonian_Polish + 46.4% Central_Greek @ 4.05

Eurogenes K15:

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.68
2 North_Sea 18.71
3 East_Med 14.85
4 Eastern_Euro 12.65
5 Atlantic 12.43
6 West_Med 10.19
7 West_Asian 9.31
8 South_Asian 1.9
9 Oceanian 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.72
2 Serbian 6.97
3 Moldavian 7.1
4 Bulgarian 8.53
5 Croatian 9.55
6 Hungarian 9.7
7 Austrian 11.88
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.71
9 Greek_Thessaly 14.52
10 South_Polish 14.63
11 Ukrainian 14.64
12 East_German 15.13
13 Greek 16.12
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.2
15 Polish 17.42
16 Russian_Smolensk 17.67
17 Southwest_Russian 17.77
18 West_German 19.57
19 Tuscan 19.58
20 Belorussian 19.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.82
2 70.4% Ukrainian + 29.6% Cyprian @ 3.85
3 55.4% Greek_Thessaly + 44.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.86
4 60.1% Greek_Thessaly + 39.9% Estonian @ 3.87
5 59.3% Ukrainian + 40.7% Central_Greek @ 3.95
6 54.5% Greek_Thessaly + 45.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.97
7 63.2% Ukrainian + 36.8% South_Italian @ 4.06
8 50.2% Greek_Thessaly + 49.8% Ukrainian @ 4.07
9 71.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28.1% Cyprian @ 4.15
10 50.2% Greek_Thessaly + 49.8% South_Polish @ 4.16
11 61.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 38.9% Central_Greek @ 4.21
12 50.6% Central_Greek + 49.4% Estonian @ 4.21
13 61.6% Greek_Thessaly + 38.4% Lithuanian @ 4.22
14 74% Ukrainian + 26% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.27
15 51.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.27
16 58% Greek_Thessaly + 42% Belorussian @ 4.27
17 70.6% South_Polish + 29.4% Cyprian @ 4.28
18 64.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 35.1% South_Italian @ 4.32
19 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.36
20 54.9% Greek_Thessaly + 45.1% Polish @ 4.46

Eurogenes K36:

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Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.57 Pct
Basque 0.31 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.78 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.77 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 16.13 Pct
East_Med 8.89 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.36 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.34 Pct
French 3.48 Pct
Iberian 5.36 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.90 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 5.03 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.31 Pct
North_Sea 3.58 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.59 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.97 Pct
West_Med 0.61 Pct

MDLP K16 Modern:

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 29.66
2 NorthEastEuropean 24.79
3 Neolithic 24.04
4 Steppe 18.63
5 NorthAfrican 1.78
6 Indian 0.9
7 Australian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 3.96
2 Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 4.11
3 Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 4.12
4 Croat (Croatia) 4.4
5 Serbian (Serbia) 4.82
6 Moldavian (Molodva) 4.83
7 Romanian (Apuseni) 5.31
8 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 5.72
9 Cossack (Zaporozhie) 6.05
10 Hungarian (Budapest) 6.24
11 Slovenian (Slovenia) 6.33
12 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 6.39
13 Macedonian (Macedonia) 6.61
14 Austrian (Austria) 6.67
15 Romanian (Gorj) 6.78
16 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 6.81
17 Hungarian (Hungary) 6.88
18 German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) 8.18
19 German (SouthGermany) 8.28
20 Slovak (Slovakia) 8.35

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.7% Pole (EastPoland) + 17.3% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.46
2 80.8% Sorb (Lusatia) + 19.2% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.47
3 84% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) + 16% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.53
4 83.8% Slovak (Slovakia) + 16.2% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.71
5 92.7% Croat (Croatia) + 7.3% Georgian (Tbilisi) @ 2.76
6 59.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 40.5% Pole (EastPoland) @ 2.82
7 85% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) + 15% Georgian (Tbilisi) @ 2.83
8 91.8% Croat (Croatia) + 8.2% Georgian (Megrelia) @ 2.84
9 67.4% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 32.6% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) @ 2.86
10 70.5% Pole (EastPoland) + 29.5% Greek (Greece) @ 2.89
11 86.7% Hungarian (Hungary) + 13.3% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.89
12 91.3% Croat (Croatia) + 8.7% Adygei (Adygea) @ 2.89
13 68.2% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 31.8% Belarusian (Belarus) @ 2.91
14 92.5% Croat (Croatia) + 7.5% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.92
15 91.9% Croat (Croatia) + 8.1% Abkhazian (Gudauta) @ 2.92
16 87.5% Hungarian (Hungary) + 12.5% Georgian (Tbilisi) @ 2.94
17 83.2% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) + 16.8% Georgian (Megrelia) @ 2.95
18 91.4% Croat (Croatia) + 8.6% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 2.96
19 85.9% Hungarian (Hungary) + 14.1% Georgian (Megrelia) @ 2.97
20 91.3% Croat (Croatia) + 8.7% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) @ 2.97

Dodecad K12B:

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 41.52
2 Atlantic_Med 24.44
3 Caucasus 22.36
4 Gedrosia 5.52
5 Southwest_Asian 4.27
6 South_Asian 1.76
7 Siberian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 7.88
2 Hungarians (Behar) 8.99
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.77
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.49
5 German (Dodecad) 15.38
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 20.39
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 21.08
8 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 21.61
9 Dutch (Dodecad) 21.77
10 Polish (Dodecad) 22.71
11 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.71
12 French (Dodecad) 22.81
13 French (HGDP) 23.08
14 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 24.11
15 Kent (1000Genomes) 24.15
16 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 24.18
17 English (Dodecad) 24.39
18 Greek (Dodecad) 24.66
19 Swedish (Dodecad) 25.06
20 TSI30 (Metspalu) 25.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 14.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 1.62
2 85% Hungarians (Behar) + 15% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 1.66
3 85% Hungarians (Behar) + 15% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 1.66
4 81.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 18.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 1.97
5 85.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 14.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2
6 85% Hungarians (Behar) + 15% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.07
7 85.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 14.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.08
8 82.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 17.7% Turks (Behar) @ 2.16
9 53.6% Romanians (Behar) + 46.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.42
10 52.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 47.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.45
11 84.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 15.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.53
12 72.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.53
13 77% Romanians (Behar) + 23% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.57
14 85.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 14.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.58
15 85.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 14.9% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.58
16 83.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 16.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.68
17 56.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 43.7% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.72
18 85.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 14.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.76
19 50.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 49.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.81
20 56.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 43.6% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.83

puntdnal K15:

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 49.13
2 Mediterranean 28.2
3 Caucasian 14.26
4 SW_Asian 5
5 S_Indian 1.86
6 Horn_Of_Africa 1.28
7 Amerindian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.02
2 Croatian 4.18
3 Bosnian 6.01
4 Hungarian 6.14
5 South_German 7
6 Austrian 7.24
7 Utahn_White 7.42
8 Slovenian 7.44
9 French 8.01
10 Irish 8.06
11 Macedonian 8.12
12 Orcadian 9.16
13 English 9.2
14 Romanian 9.72
15 North_German 10.24
16 Bulgarian 10.29
17 Scottish 10.72
18 Norwegian 11.91
19 Montenegrin 12.22
20 Swedish 13.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.3% Irish + 14.7% Syrian @ 1.12
2 85.3% Irish + 14.7% Iraqi_Jew @ 1.13
3 87.9% Croatian + 12.1% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.17
4 89.3% Croatian + 10.7% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.21
5 73.6% Polish + 26.4% Cypriot @ 1.23
6 83% North_German + 17% Druze @ 1.25
7 84.8% Irish + 15.2% Lebanese @ 1.29
8 88.5% Croatian + 11.5% Sicilian @ 1.3
9 78.3% Swedish + 21.7% Druze @ 1.31
10 86.1% Slovenian + 13.9% Cypriot @ 1.31
11 85.5% Irish + 14.5% Jordanian @ 1.33
12 88.3% Hungarian + 11.7% Cypriot @ 1.33
13 86.8% Slovenian + 13.2% Samaritian @ 1.34
14 75.7% Hungarian + 24.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.34
15 77.7% Hungarian + 22.3% Greek_Central @ 1.35
16 56.3% Polish + 43.7% Greek_Central @ 1.35
17 54.9% Bosnian + 45.1% Austrian @ 1.36
18 92.4% Croatian + 7.6% Samaritian @ 1.37
19 87.4% Austrian + 12.6% Assyrian @ 1.39
20 84.8% Hungarian + 15.2% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.4

Congratulations. What does her mldp 23 look like

[CommonSense]

Congratulations. What does her mldp 23 look like

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 36.16
2 Caucasian 33.77
3 European_Early_Farmers 14.91
4 South_Central_Asian 4.67
5 Near_East 3.11
6 South_Indian 2.31
7 North_African 2.15
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.12
9 Melano_Polynesian 0.78
10 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bosnian ( ) 3.61
2 Croat_BH ( ) 3.72
3 Serb_BH ( ) 4.32
4 Croat ( ) 4.58
5 Montenegrian ( ) 5.54
6 Bulgarian ( ) 6.13
7 Macedonian ( ) 6.32
8 Serb_Serbia ( ) 6.49
9 Romanian ( ) 6.9
10 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 9.07
11 Ukrainian_West ( ) 9.43
12 Czech ( ) 9.73
13 Slovenian ( ) 10.17
14 Slovak ( ) 10.45
15 Hungarian ( ) 10.68
16 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 10.8
17 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 10.85
18 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 10.91
19 Ukrainian_East ( ) 11.25
20 Gagauz ( ) 11.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70% Czech ( ) + 30% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) @ 1.64
2 82.8% Czech ( ) + 17.2% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 1.76
3 89.3% Bosnian ( ) + 10.7% Kurd_East ( ) @ 1.81
4 90.4% Bosnian ( ) + 9.6% Baku_WGA ( ) @ 1.87
5 90.9% Bosnian ( ) + 9.1% Dargin_Urkarah ( ) @ 1.89
6 88.9% Bosnian ( ) + 11.1% Kurd_North ( ) @ 1.91
7 88.9% Bosnian ( ) + 11.1% Azeri ( ) @ 1.91
8 66.2% Czech ( ) + 33.8% Azov_Greek ( ) @ 1.92
9 90.9% Bosnian ( ) + 9.1% Lak ( ) @ 1.92
10 90.9% Bosnian ( ) + 9.1% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 1.93
11 90% Bosnian ( ) + 10% Kurd ( ) @ 1.93
12 91.2% Bosnian ( ) + 8.8% Lezgin ( ) @ 1.93
13 89% Bosnian ( ) + 11% Kurd_South ( ) @ 1.94
14 91.2% Bosnian ( ) + 8.8% Avar ( ) @ 1.94
15 88.4% Bosnian ( ) + 11.6% Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) @ 1.95
16 90.9% Bosnian ( ) + 9.1% Tabassaran ( ) @ 1.97
17 86.3% Czech ( ) + 13.7% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.06
18 90.1% Bosnian ( ) + 9.9% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 2.14
19 91.3% Bosnian ( ) + 8.7% Kumyk ( ) @ 2.22
20 89.2% Serb_BH ( ) + 10.8% Dargin_Urkarah ( ) @ 2.22

[Ikol]

I found two more on youtube like that. Keep in mind, it's mostly the poor people who are admixed, so they're not as likely to take these tests. More affluent people, on the other hand, Like Čeda Jovanović and the Đogani family will never do it because they won't be able to deny their roots any more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn23fwOH0cQ

How about this?

[Ikol]

Btw how about bosnian serbs are they montegrins from the beginning?

[Pribislav]

Btw how about bosnian serbs are they montegrins from the beginning?

They are not close to the Montenegrins on average. Serbs from Serbia are closer to Montenegrins than Bosnian Serbs.

K36 map of user Ford (Bosnian Serb).

[Ford]

Btw how about bosnian serbs are they montegrins from the beginning?

Montenegrins are Bosnian Serbs from the beginning.

[Pribislav]

Montenegrins are Bosnian Serbs from the beginning.

Montenegrins have extra Vlach (more than other Serbs) and some Albanian dna.

Bosnian Serbs are probably like medieval Serbs of Montenegro, before partly genetic vlachization and albanization of Montenegro which happened in Ottoman time.

[CommonSense]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn23fwOH0cQ

How about this?

But what do your results have to do with what I posted??

[Ikol]

But what do your results have to do with what I posted??

Just posted it, thought it would be fun