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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    What is the connection between the historc Avars and the Caucasian Avars?
    No. This is a confusion based on similarity of names. Different languages, anthropology, genetics and culture. And there are no any evidence supporting settlement of Eurasian Avars in Caucasus. Eurasian Avars should be called Varchonites in order to avoid confusion.

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    Avar skull, from Europe.


    This one looks very Avar-ish, or even Khazar, IMO:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Avar proper skulls from Hungary are antropometrically fully mongoloid. In Byzantine Cronicles, it is written Croats captured Avars they defeated, and assimilated them, and that long time after that, it was visible who was of Avar descent among Croats. It means they were recognizable by their look.
    Pretty interesting how they race-mixed and gradually disappeared. Also consider the distance - from the depth of Tartary all the way to Central Europe like Hungary and Croatia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    No. This is a confusion based on similarity of names. Different languages, anthropology, genetics and culture. And there are no any evidence supporting settlement of Eurasian Avars in Caucasus. Eurasian Avars should be called Varchonites in order to avoid confusion.
    I was just asking out of being uninformed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Avar proper skulls from Hungary are antropometrically fully mongoloid. In Byzantine Cronicles, it is written Croats captured Avars they defeated, and assimilated them, and that long time after that, it was visible who was of Avar descent among Croats. It means they were recognizable by their look.
    This one looks fully Mongoloid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaler View Post
    This one looks fully Mongoloid.

    interesting how this hair style was used by Vlachs in the Carpathians until 150 years ago. maybe Hungarians as well.

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    Half Avars probably looked like this guy; he's half Yakut, half Russian.


    Source: https://www.quora.com/Are-Russian-Na...rriages-common

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    Yakuts are 90+% East Eurasian, close to 100%. But their EE is even more Siberian than that. Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Yakuts are 90+% East Eurasian, close to 100%. But their EE is even more Siberian than that. Just saying.
    But that's the closest I could venture to get a "half Avar - half Euro like" mix in contemporary times.
    Ps. Didn't find any half-Burtyat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by axlredneck View Post
    But that's the closest I could venture to get a "half Avar - half Euro like" mix in contemporary times.
    Ps. Didn't find any half-Burtyat!
    I didn't say anything in terms of looks.

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