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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    That's not my problem. My concern is about potentially unrepresentative samples being used as such.
    Yes that's true, if you don't like tell to Lukasz to not upload it, no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Good point, agree. I think this sample is good though, seems similar mix in modeling like one you describe is prevalent in Siberia.
    Yeah, that sample is ok. For example I also posted another Siberian Russian, he is a genealogist (runs a web page about Siberian ancestry) and has a pretty good genealogical tree but he scores something like 4% South_Asian on Eurogenes which is very unusual. I wouldn't use one like that for example, although he might be a true Sibiryak personally.

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    With unrepresentative samples you'll end up having another Dodecad spreadsheet. Literally no Polish person gets a close distance to the "Polish" reference (according to Peterski). Totally off

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    Apparently I'm not closer to a half Frenchman and just 1/8 Morrocan Jew

    Eurogenes K13 updated

    Distance: 2.9820% / 2.98197995
    85.6 West_Scottish
    9.6 Moroccan_Jew
    4.0 Southeast_English
    0.4 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
    0.2 Chamar
    0.2 Ethiopian_Gumuz
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    PuntDNAL K15 works much better for me.

    Modeling w. Germany and France

    Distance: 3.0460% / 3.04599898
    55.6 French
    44.4 North_German

    Modeling w. England and France

    Distance: 3.6835% / 3.68349143
    54.8 English
    45.2 French
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    23andMe K13 Updated
    Code:
    Target: DacoCeltic
    Distance: 2.7466% / 2.74661608 | ADC: 0.5x
    66.4	West_German
    19.8	Swiss_German
    13.8	Bulgarian_Southwest
    
    Target: DacoCeltic
    Distance: 2.1017% / 2.10173211 | ADC: 0.25x
    81.6	West_German
    16.8	Bulgarian_Southwest
    1.0	Lebanese_Druze
    0.6	Velamas
    
    Target: DacoCeltic
    Distance: 1.1949% / 1.19486939
    60.4	Southeast_English
    19.8	Greek_Northern-Thrace
    8.0	North-Dutch
    4.2	Lebanese_Druze
    3.6	Greek_Western-Macedonia
    2.0	Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
    1.4	Velamas
    0.4	Greek_Trabzon
    0.2	Bulgarian_Southwest
    
    Distance to:	DacoCeltic
    4.40719866	Swiss_German
    5.05291005	West_German
    6.20721355	Swiss_French
    7.10368918	South_Dutch
    8.36893661	French
    8.81395484	Hungarian_Transdanubia
    9.20002174	German_West
    9.50097363	Austrian
    10.13219621	AostaValley
    12.17303578	East_German
    12.67016574	North_German
    13.05168571	Southeast_English
    13.11366463	Trentino
    13.36306851	Friuli-VG
    13.55240938	Hungarian_New
    13.57464917	English
    14.10908927	Danish
    14.11596968	Swiss-Italian
    14.38768918	HungarianTA
    14.42687076	Swiss_Italian
    14.83491153	Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
    14.88455575	Hungarian_East
    15.40259718	Veneto
    15.40487910	Orcadian
    15.40593717	Szekely

    AncestryDNA K13 Updated
    Code:
    Target: DacoCeltic
    Distance: 3.1515% / 3.15146685 | ADC: 0.5x
    59.4	West_German
    24.0	Swiss_French
    12.2	AostaValley
    3.6	Turk_Burgas
    0.8	Kurd_Iran
    
    Target: DacoCeltic
    Distance: 2.1640% / 2.16399089 | ADC: 0.25x
    75.8	West_German
    18.2	AostaValley
    4.0	Turk_East_Black_Sea
    2.0	Lebanese_Druze
    
    Target: DacoCeltic
    Distance: 1.0798% / 1.07980737
    67.6	Southeast_English
    10.4	Greek_Western-Thrace
    9.6	Turk_East_Black_Sea
    8.6	Bulgarian_Southwest
    3.6	Spanish_Valencia
    0.2	Karitiana
    
    Distance to:	DacoCeltic
    4.92461166	Swiss_German
    5.55372848	Swiss_French
    5.94655362	West_German
    7.29870536	French
    7.66045691	South_Dutch
    8.19735323	AostaValley
    10.34178901	German_West
    11.35629341	Hungarian_Transdanubia
    11.93291666	Austrian
    12.42264867	Trentino
    12.56745002	Friuli-VG
    13.00593711	Swiss-Italian
    13.60425669	Swiss_Italian
    13.64607270	Southeast_English
    14.14187753	North_German
    14.16175483	English
    14.20691381	Veneto
    14.22238377	Spanish_Cataluna
    14.70344858	East_German
    14.99103065	Piedmont
    15.21182764	Portuguese
    15.62553679	Southwest_English
    15.68274211	Danish
    15.77931557	Hungarian_New
    15.81534065	Spanish_Galicia

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    I will upload tomorrow those new refs.

    Also I don't understand why some people on other forum have problem with 'updated' calc versions. For everyone such calc, original oracle version is preserved too.

    They simply don't have to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    With unrepresentative samples you'll end up having another Dodecad spreadsheet. Literally no Polish person gets a close distance to the "Polish" reference (according to Peterski). Totally off
    What's wrong with the Dodecad spreadsheet? All samples I have added on there are averages of +7 kits at the very least. Same can't be said for other spreadsheets. It's the best for West Asia by far.

    Eurogenes on the other hand at the moment has a lot of n=1 samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    What's wrong with the Dodecad spreadsheet? All samples I have added on there are averages of +7 kits at the very least. Same can't be said for other spreadsheets. It's the best for West Asia by far.

    Eurogenes on the other hand at the moment has a lot of n=1 samples.
    I was talking about the original one. It's quite infamously bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I was talking about the original one. It's quite infamously bad.
    Yeah, I was going to mention, the samples that are bad and nonsensical are mostly the default ones

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