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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Anyway maybe is more representative conform the number of references of each country with population , no country surfaces.

    Or simply I must have make the list, putting one reference of each country and only first 3 or 5 and distances.

    Example:

    South France

    0.00877479 ITA
    0.01031502 Spain
    0.01537108 France
    and finally get the total average of distances of every country and make a new top 10.


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    I think this would be fairer, isn´t it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethel View Post
    Spain 32 (11 for Catalonia and 3 Baleares)
    France 11
    Portugal 1

    The number of references for Catalonia is the most redundant there because it's a small area, it's quite homogeneous, and there's almost a reference for each main city/place.
    And yes, there should be more individual references for Portugal, at least for the North (Minho/Tras-os-montes), Center (Ribatejo/Beira), South (Alentejo/Algarve), and the Islands (Azores /Madeira).
    I agree, is under-represented, I think it would be fairer the last idea I wrote yo set out the data and draw conclusions about them.

    But today is too late to make it now.

    Thanks!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Anyway maybe is more representative conform the number of references of each country with population , no country surfaces.

    Or simply I must have make the list, putting one reference of each country and only first 3 or 5 and distances.

    Example:

    South France

    0.00877479 ITA
    0.01031502 Spain
    0.01537108 France
    It's not our fault. One or two references would be more than enough for Catalonia. They should make an average among all the samples from Catalonia region and condense into one reference, or make one for Catalonia and one for Andorra which has no reference whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethel View Post
    It's not our fault. One or two references would be more than enough for Catalonia. They should make an average among all the samples from Catalonia region and condense into one reference, or make one for Catalonia and one for Andorra which has no reference whatsoever.
    The problem is not of only of under-represented countries, is also in presenting data as Voskos did, this way of setting the data out leads to misunderstanding, as for example that Spaniards or Italians having more matches than own Frenchs in france doesn´t imply absolutely that France population average has more genetic closeness with Spain than with Italy, or Germans, or that Frenchs are Basically Spanish.

    That´s was what I was trying to say with my first post here when I said:
    Should we draw any conclusion?
    But anyone opined but you, and you think with good judgment.

    I was expecting more reactions...


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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    The problem is not of only of under-represented countries, is also in presenting data as Voskos did, this way of setting the data out leads to misunderstanding, as for example that Spaniards or Italians having more matches than own Frenchs in france doesn´t imply absolutely that France population average has more genetic closeness with Spain than with Italy, or Germans, or that Frenchs are Basically Spanish.

    That´s was what I was trying to say with my first post here when I said:

    But anyone opined but you, and you think with good judgment.

    I was expecting more reactions...
    They will almost always be closer to themselves than to the bordering countries, except for SW French which is heavily basque influenced. Despite that, some France regions will have more genetic, phenotypical, linguistic and cultural affinity to different countries or areas.

    For instance:

    Aquitaine (except Basque) and Occitanie: Spain (specially Catalonia)
    Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes & Provence: Northern Italy
    Alsace/Bourgogne: Bavaria
    Corsica: Tuscany
    Nord-Pas-de-Calais: Belgium
    Bretagne: Britain

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