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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Those results from VBN really show how different I am from them.

    Really surprising results.

    Balkans suffered a lot from foreign invasions.
    Be proud because you are more Vlach then them! That means you are more related with Romans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Be proud because you are more Vlach tgen them! That means you are more related with Romans.
    I am paternally from Proto-Villanovians cultures (I2) as many Serbs, but our cultures and identites have been destroyed by Yamnaya invaders who spread their R1b/R1a languages, Cultures and everything.

    Just like Anatolians are Turkified, the same way we are Indo-Europeanized.

    Ancient Roman modern proxy would be MALE Sardinian + FEMALE Assyrian

    Child of those two would be Roman.

    Then if that child would marry pure Udmurt or Slavic women and accept it's culture and language

    Then you get Serb or Vlach.





    R1b homeplace.

    Excavations of Yamnaya 11 x R1b

    1. Udmurts 65 - 70% Just a bit more and they would be able to grow horns.
    2. Volga Tatars - 55%
    3. Nuristanis - 50%
    4. Nordics - 50%
    5. Yaghnobis - 50%
    6. Kalash - 45-50%
    7. NW Europeans - 45%
    8. Eastern Europeans - 40%
    9. Afgan Pashtuns - 40%
    10. Germans - 37-40%
    11. Upper Caste South Asians 35%
    12. Tajiks 35%
    13. Southern Europeans 20-30%
    14. Iranians 20-25%
    15. Mid Caste Southern Pooeaters 20%
    16. Armenians 15%
    17. Assyrians 15%
    18. Sardinians 15%


    Sardinians + Assyrian = Ancient Greco-Romans or even modern Greeks if you squeeze devils Yamnaya presence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    I am paternally from Proto-Villanovians cultures (I2) as many Serbs, but our cultures and identites have been destroyed by Yamnaya invaders who spread their R1b/R1a languages, Cultures and everything.

    Just like Anatolians are Turkified, the same way we are Indo-Europeanized.

    Ancient Roman modern proxy would be MALE Sardinian + FEMALE Assyrian

    Child of those two would be Roman.

    Then if that child would marry pure Udmurt or Slavic women and accept it's culture and language

    Then you get Serb or Vlach.





    R1b homeplace.

    Excavations of Yamnaya 11 x R1b

    1. Udmurts 65 - 70% Just a bit more and they would be able to grow horns.
    2. Volga Tatars - 55%
    3. Nuristanis - 50%
    4. Nordics - 50%
    5. Yaghnobis - 50%
    6. Kalash - 45-50%
    7. NW Europeans - 45%
    8. Eastern Europeans - 40%
    9. Afgan Pashtuns - 40%
    10. Germans - 37-40%
    11. Upper Caste South Asians 35%
    12. Tajiks 35%
    13. Southern Europeans 20-30%
    14. Iranians 20-25%
    15. Mid Caste Southern Pooeaters 20%
    16. Armenians 15%
    17. Assyrians 15%
    18. Sardinians 15%


    Sardinians + Assyrian = Ancient Greco-Romans or even modern Greeks if you squeeze devils Yamnaya presence.
    Serb from Banija with surname Došen carry I2-PH908 as you and he score 34.93 Baltic, and you are around 29 if I am remember well. His male ancestors were taking more often women dauthers of R1a men than yours or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Those results from VBN really show how different I am from them.

    Really surprising results.

    Balkans suffered a lot from foreign invasions.
    So Vlatko Vukovic isn't your countryman? He's got a solid amount of Northeast European in him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    So Vlatko Vukovic isn't your countryman? He's got a solid amount of Northeast European in him
    Vlatko descends From Montenegrin serbs paternally, like Bosniensis Means his grandpa liked Baltic women to you then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Vlatko descends From Montenegrin serbs paternally, like Bosniensis Means his grandpa liked Baltic women to you then?
    I don't know, thought he was a normal Bosniak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Serb from Banija with surname Došen carry I2-PH908 as you and he score 34.93 Baltic, and you are around 29 if I am remember well. His male ancestors were taking more often women dauthers of R1a men than yours or what?
    Yes in fact I am a bit more southern because of recent mixing.

    We all mixed with Yamnaya women (I2 and J2 at least)

    Let's be clear here, even Women are 50% - 50% but that's what you get when Pure Sardinian-like Ex West Balkaners meet Pure Yamnaya Avar or similar women

    (This is confirmed in the book Kingdom of the Slavs) mixing started around 6th century.

    Look this.

    Vatra = Indo-European Yamnaya word.

    PYR = Proto-European (Illyrian, Thracian) word for FIRE

    We say: "Napiriti Vatru" we changed NAME but we kept Glagol (Verb)

    Interesting isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I don't know, thought he was a normal Bosniak.
    Many Bosniaks originated from Montenegro, Herzegovina and western/central Serbia.

    In Ottoman time Nikšić currently second largest city in Montenegro was almost full Muslim.
    In 1877 when Serbs liberated Nikšić from Ottomans Nikšić Muslims moved to the Bosnia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikšić
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Yes in fact I am a bit more southern because of recent mixing.

    We all mixed with Yamnaya women (I2 and J2 at least)

    Let's be clear here, even Women are 50% - 50% but that's what you get when Pure Sardinian-like Ex West Balkaners meet Pure Yamnaya Avar or similar women

    (This is confirmed in the book Kingdom of the Slavs) mixing started around 6th century.

    Look this.

    Vatra = Indo-European Yamnaya word.

    PYR = Proto-European (Illyrian, Thracian) word for FIRE

    We say: "Napiriti Vatru" we changed NAME but we kept Glagol (Verb)

    Interesting isn't it.
    Where is quote from that book regarding 6th century?

    The historical context of the work is the Long Turkish War and the loss of the position of the southern Slavs in the rule of the Ottoman Empire after the hanging of Michael Kantakouzenos Şeytanoğlu (March 3, 1578) and the assassination of Grand Vizier Sokollu Mehmed Pasha (October 11, 1579). The Venetian Republic, through its protégés, Validе Sultanas, succeeded in displacing the Republic of Dubrovnik from its position in the Mediterranean trade by constructing a port in Split.[2]
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Slavs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Where is quote from that book regarding 6th century?
    I'll check it out, and I will show you.

    However I've found in the book "Putopis Popa Dukljanina" where it says that Slavs and Christians of Dalmatia (Illyrians)
    signed a peace treaty where Slavs accepted Christianity etc...

    That's it, related to that part in "Kingdom of the Slavs" Book, it's just that Dalmatians were not yet conquered in 6th century
    so they were able to steal womans from Avars in Pannonia (who were turko-slavic mix). For some reason there was lack of Women (probably previous sacks took womens into slavery)

    That's it I2a1b + R1a friendship and Illyro-Slavic world we live today.

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