I'm not Dema and
and there is an Albanian I know that match Macure on autosomal DNA. They came up as cousin.
That tribe was Albanian for sure. They match both in autosomal and paternally Albanians.
And no, it wasn't. All the evidence shows that Albanians originated North of the Jireck line where Latin influence was strong. Many Pre-Slavic tribes in Montenegro were Albanian in origin.
Plenty of mountain tribes that were recorded around there. Some of these tribes went extinct or were pushed out. As I have provided some evidence. Plenty of others of your tribes in Montenegro that were Albanian.
Duklija near Rashka was Albanian or Albanian-Vlach prior to Slavs according to historians
Even many tribes that survived and never fused into Slavs yet ironically you're telling some fairytale how Albanians came from Mat region, so you're telling me the Gruda area within Montenegro today came from Mat or the Hoti tribe or even Kelmendi ? Majority of them seem to of have no relation to the Mat region. What you're telling is just a fairytale.
We have presence of several early Albanian or Albanian-Vlach tribes in Montenegro and old Zeta, some of these seem to of fused into Serbs of course. Including Macure. There were others that were mix of Albanian-Slavic-Vlach.... The Balsic origin is disputed, but Crnojevic family were for sure partially Albanian.
There are no demographics of Northern Albania , that demographic included also Kosovo together and they certainly weren't a minority in Northern Albania. Those demographics aren't reliable as they also didn't count every mountain population whereas the Slavs largely settled in the lowlands.
Yeah, that area seem to of been quite Serbian according to D'Administrando
You immigrated there in the 13th century, just like you immigrated into Albania and everywhere else then you pretty much lost that area by the 20th century that area was majority Albanian which you forcibly occupied. And claimed it as if it had been some Serbian homeland from the very start but it wasn't.
What is so hard for you to understand about this exactly ?
Where is the native population that you claim ? Where are all your Y-DNA of Paleo-Balkan origin? Large chunk of them are pretty much related to Albanians. The only native population in Kosovo were some remnants of Arbanas (Albanians) and Vlachs, Bulgarians, Greeks, Jews and others that seemed to of been there before Serbs.
Albanians there were never settled for the most part by Ottomans.
As for your claim about NO Albanians being there before Ottomans in 17th century , Lets have a look:
Albanians mentioned in Kosovo under Stefan Dusan ^ . Yet you claimed there were
NO Albanians there prior to the 17th century . This debunks everything you claim.
Who made up the majority there is irrelevant. I am strictly answering your claim. The Slavs that came there were immigrants. The native population were Albanians and Vlachs as also claimed by Hamp, Noel and many others.
Priot to Slavs, Kosovo was Albanian-Vlach mix. All the evidence sugggests this, that Kosovo, Northern Albania and Montenegro contained a Vlach-Albanian population. And that many of these people either were pushed out or fused into Slavs. And that they became a minority but after Ottoman occupation this reversed basically especially in Kosovo.
I know you keep beating around the bush and repeating yourself. You're people with identity crisis which is why you test so much DNA , you also claim Paleo-Balkan ancestors who were more or less like Albanians to fuel your own nationalism which is hilarious. Especially when everything shows you have immigrated into the Balkans pretty much and that the native people of the Balkans didn't automatically wanted to become Serbs as you portray, it happened through peer social pressure largely and occupation.
I see it's a waste of time to have a normal debate with your kind because no matter all the evidence that is provided you still live in denial.
Originally Posted by Leto
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