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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    There was no Safavid oracle I think you are referring to Sassanid era sample. Shah Ismail was mainly Turkoman and Georgian I think with distant Kurdish paternal ancestry. However most of his soldiers were Turkoman.
    Yeah sorry I wasn't sure. Do you remember which sample it was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomansman View Post
    Iranian(maybe kurd):






    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 35.04
    2 Gedrosia 21.36
    3 North_European 12.64
    4 Southwest_Asian 12.14
    5 Atlantic_Med 8.18
    6 South_Asian 6.25
    7 Sub_Saharan 1.58
    8 Northwest_African 1.13
    9 Siberian 0.98
    10 East_Asian 0.69
    11 East_African 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Iranian (Dodecad) 11.14
    2 Kurd (Dodecad) 12.01
    3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 12.2
    4 Iranians (Behar) 12.38
    5 Turks (Behar) 13.76
    6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14.35
    7 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.37
    8 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.09
    9 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.76
    10 Lebanese (Behar) 19.32
    11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.91
    12 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 20.39
    13 Lezgins (Behar) 20.91
    14 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 20.92
    15 Assyrian (Dodecad) 20.93
    16 Syrians (Behar) 21.04
    17 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 21.36
    18 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 21.47
    19 Armenian (Dodecad) 22.01
    20 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 23.06

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 73.8% Iranians (Behar) + 26.2% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.52
    2 72.9% Iranians (Behar) + 27.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.55
    3 73.9% Iranians (Behar) + 26.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.59
    4 76.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 23.5% Romanians (Behar) @ 5.07
    5 75.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 24.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.25
    6 82% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.27
    7 85.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 14.8% Polish (Dodecad) @ 5.33
    8 82.7% Iranians (Behar) + 17.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.42
    9 76.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.42
    10 84.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 15.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.46
    11 85.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 14.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 5.56
    12 86% Iranian (Dodecad) + 14% Belorussian (Behar) @ 5.65
    13 83.6% Iranians (Behar) + 16.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 5.68
    14 83.6% Iranians (Behar) + 16.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 5.73
    15 80.3% Iranians (Behar) + 19.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.75
    16 84% Iranians (Behar) + 16% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.75
    17 84.3% Iranians (Behar) + 15.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 5.77
    18 83.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 16.3% German (Dodecad) @ 5.79
    19 85.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 14.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.81
    20 77.4% Turks (Behar) + 22.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 5.81






    Some kind of iranian(might be mazandarani):





    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 40.81
    2 Gedrosia 31.65
    3 Southwest_Asian 11.63
    4 South_Asian 6.33
    5 Atlantic_Med 5.8
    6 North_European 2.63
    7 Southeast_Asian 0.55
    8 Northwest_African 0.39
    9 East_African 0.14
    10 Sub_Saharan 0.07

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Iranians (Behar) 5.32
    2 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.42
    3 Kurd (Dodecad) 7.02
    4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 7.78
    5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14
    6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.69
    7 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.8
    8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.59
    9 Turks (Behar) 18.66
    10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 18.69
    11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.2
    12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 19.36
    13 Armenian (Dodecad) 20.54
    14 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 20.66
    15 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.99
    16 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 22.13
    17 Armenians (Behar) 23.4
    18 Lezgins (Behar) 24.06
    19 Lebanese (Behar) 24.12
    20 Syrians (Behar) 25.52

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 69.5% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 30.5% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.91
    2 65.3% Armenians (Behar) + 34.7% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.32
    3 68.2% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 31.8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.49
    4 63.8% Armenians (Behar) + 36.2% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.52
    5 72.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 27.6% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.54
    6 68.3% Armenian (Dodecad) + 31.7% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.58
    7 68.3% Armenians (Behar) + 31.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.68
    8 91.2% Iranians (Behar) + 8.8% Georgians (Behar) @ 4.08
    9 67% Armenian (Dodecad) + 33% Makrani (HGDP) @ 4.15
    10 91% Iranians (Behar) + 9% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.23
    11 71.3% Armenian (Dodecad) + 28.7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 4.29
    12 89.5% Iranians (Behar) + 10.5% Armenians (Behar) @ 4.59
    13 90.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 9.1% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 4.7
    14 95.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 4.1% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 4.72
    15 88.7% Iranians (Behar) + 11.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 4.76
    16 95.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 4.1% GIH30 (Dodecad) @ 4.78
    17 96.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 3.8% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 4.8
    18 52.3% Iranians (Behar) + 47.7% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.8
    19 96.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 3.7% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 4.8
    20 94.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 5.4% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 4.8

    Wtf the first one 12% North european

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    I see that my response to a banned troll triggered you even though I made it clear that my post was not to offend Turkish members but a mere response to an individual who tried to insult my country.



    I have never tried to hide my non Turkic maternal side which is Jalali Kurd, if maternal-male line is to be considered. But in Iran, by law ethnicity and nationality is counted from paternal lineage which is Azeri so I am an azeri man. Having gorji grannies doesn't change the male ethnicity which stayed azeri by Law. My children will be Azeri Turks as well regardless of their mothers race.

    I have no mazandarani, persian, talysh etc in me. I have never said it, stop spreading lies.



    Please provide proof that I have said that Seljuks or Timurids were Iranian empires ? They were both Turkic but not Turkish. Turkish is what lives in Anatolia or current Turkish country. They are by no means equivalent to CA Seljuks.

    Safavid were Kurdish by male line but culturally azeri kizilbas. They come from Piroz Shah Zarrin kolah lineage who was a Kurd and migrated to Ardabil. Not that it matters but thats where their lineage comes from.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavi...ty_family_tree

    I never claimed Timurid was Iranian empire. I said Timurid empires official language, culture and Lingua Franca was Persian which is a fact.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timurid_Empire#Persian

    Yes Timurids defeated Turkish and conquered them. Timur died 3 years later otherwise he would have probably expanded his own empires adapted persian culture into Turkey. His ancestors did same in their conquered Indic sub continent where they took Persian as official language and spread it among billion people. That was the level of Timurid love of Iranian culture.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ankara

    Turkish in the last millennium have been defeated many times by multiple Iraniian ethnicities like Azeris (Afshar, Qajar, Safavid), Kurds (Safavid), Lurs (Zand) even Afghan Pashtuns (Hotaks). Please deny that and I will return the favor with literary proof. This internet myth of "Turkish ruled Iran" is created by few illiterate trolls on internet. Generally Turkish people are very nice and I respect their nation which has a rich martial history but I have no love for few stupid trolls on internet spreading lies to undermine martial history of Turks of Iran like my own tribe which has been brutally nationalist and stubborn kizilbas.



    you do realize that major thick part of DNA of an average Turkish citizen is native or regional not Turkic from CA. They cluster very close with ethnic groups around them geographically and not with CA Turkics.



    Would you deny that ?

    If the thickest portion of their DNA is native and native land was conquered then it means that their ancestors were conquered. Major portion of my Turkic genes is median Iranian. Our Median ancestors got invaded by Persians as well. I don't see it as a problem since its all historical facts.



    Current language means nothing. Timur was neither Uzbek nor Azeri citizen. He represented his Timurid empire whose lingua franca and culture was Persian. Timurids and their later ward derivatives continued their Persian traditions. Such is the power of Iranian culture that Invader gets invaded himself by local culture.



    Being proud Turk has nothing to do with being proud Turkish. I am an Azeri Turk, I love my Turkic ancestors who entered then Iran (Present day republic Azerbaijan) in 11th century. We are Turks of Iran who belong to Iran and we will fight for it as we always have. Supreme leader of Iran Ayatollah Khamenei is also a Bayat Azeri Turk. In Iran, we don't discriminate as we are all Iranians first. Cultural persianization is just a glue that keeps us togather. It has less to do with Persian ethnicity. Thats the reason that no matter who ruled Iran, they always use Persianization as a uniting factor that works very well.
    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    I see that my response to a banned troll triggered you even though I made it clear that my post was not to offend Turkish members but a mere response to an individual who tried to insult my country.



    I have never tried to hide my non Turkic maternal side which is Jalali Kurd, if maternal-male line is to be considered. But in Iran, by law ethnicity and nationality is counted from paternal lineage which is Azeri so I am an azeri man. Having gorji grannies doesn't change the male ethnicity which stayed azeri by Law. My children will be Azeri Turks as well regardless of their mothers race.

    I have no mazandarani, persian, talysh etc in me. I have never said it, stop spreading lies.



    Please provide proof that I have said that Seljuks or Timurids were Iranian empires ? They were both Turkic but not Turkish. Turkish is what lives in Anatolia or current Turkish country. They are by no means equivalent to CA Seljuks.

    Safavid were Kurdish by male line but culturally azeri kizilbas. They come from Piroz Shah Zarrin kolah lineage who was a Kurd and migrated to Ardabil. Not that it matters but thats where their lineage comes from.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavi...ty_family_tree

    I never claimed Timurid was Iranian empire. I said Timurid empires official language, culture and Lingua Franca was Persian which is a fact.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timurid_Empire#Persian

    Yes Timurids defeated Turkish and conquered them. Timur died 3 years later otherwise he would have probably expanded his own empires adapted persian culture into Turkey. His ancestors did same in their conquered Indic sub continent where they took Persian as official language and spread it among billion people. That was the level of Timurid love of Iranian culture.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ankara

    Turkish in the last millennium have been defeated many times by multiple Iraniian ethnicities like Azeris (Afshar, Qajar, Safavid), Kurds (Safavid), Lurs (Zand) even Afghan Pashtuns (Hotaks). Please deny that and I will return the favor with literary proof. This internet myth of "Turkish ruled Iran" is created by few illiterate trolls on internet. Generally Turkish people are very nice and I respect their nation which has a rich martial history but I have no love for few stupid trolls on internet spreading lies to undermine martial history of Turks of Iran like my own tribe which has been brutally nationalist and stubborn kizilbas.



    you do realize that major thick part of DNA of an average Turkish citizen is native or regional not Turkic from CA. They cluster very close with ethnic groups around them geographically and not with CA Turkics.



    Would you deny that ?

    If the thickest portion of their DNA is native and native land was conquered then it means that their ancestors were conquered. Major portion of my Turkic genes is median Iranian. Our Median ancestors got invaded by Persians as well. I don't see it as a problem since its all historical facts.



    Current language means nothing. Timur was neither Uzbek nor Azeri citizen. He represented his Timurid empire whose lingua franca and culture was Persian. Timurids and their later ward derivatives continued their Persian traditions. Such is the power of Iranian culture that Invader gets invaded himself by local culture.



    Being proud Turk has nothing to do with being proud Turkish. I am an Azeri Turk, I love my Turkic ancestors who entered then Iran (Present day republic Azerbaijan) in 11th century. We are Turks of Iran who belong to Iran and we will fight for it as we always have. Supreme leader of Iran Ayatollah Khamenei is also a Bayat Azeri Turk. In Iran, we don't discriminate as we are all Iranians first. Cultural persianization is just a glue that keeps us togather. It has less to do with Persian ethnicity. Thats the reason that no matter who ruled Iran, they always use Persianization as a uniting factor that works very well.
    You are 1/4 Turk, you propably dont even speak Turkish. First of all there is no Azeri language, its Azerbaycan Turkcesi. That's what people from Azerbaijan call their language. . Anatolian Turks are genetically closest to Azerbaijani Turks, not to Greeks, Georgians or Arabs. Persians don't carry much genes of Proto-Iranians either, yet you will still claim ancient Parthians(whose results are posted and very different from modern Iranians).Heck compare a Lur to a Proto-Iranic or modern day Baloch, Pasthun, he will be distant to those people and barely have ancestry of those but still will speak the language of these people. But you will never say those people are Elamites and have nothing to do with Iranics. Also we call ourself Turks and we are descended of the Seljuk Turks, it's our heritage and term Turk predates Turkey by 2000 years. Heck, "turkic" never existed in our language. Saying "Azeri Bayat" is an oxymoron, Bayat is a Turkmen tribe, one of the 24 Oghuz Turks tribes, which exists in Iraq Turkey, Azerbaycan and Iran, modern borders don't define our heritage. Thats why a book called Dîvânü Lugati't-Türk was written in 1071, which clearly states the 24 turkish tribes by Kâşgarlı Mahmud(as his name suggest he was from Kashgar, a place far away from Turkey) when the middle east was Iran and middle east was controlled by Turks. The split between Azerbaycani Turks and Anatolian Turks happened only after the 16th century before that it was all together. My ancestors came in the 16th century from Qaradag region of Azerbaycan. And not all Azerbaijanis are Shia, lots are Sunni in Salmas and Xoy region. Also the court and military and court language during the Safavid period was turkish, not "azeri"(this language doesn't exists anymore) or persian, and turkish was the prestige language and many persians were trieing to learn it, compared to modern Iran where turkish education is not even allowed. So you can't claim the heritage of the people who made turkish the court language as a nation which denies this right. Turkey linguistically is more close to the Safavid than Iran today is and will be.
    I carry the ancestry of my Seljuk Turk ancestors, we call ourselfs Türk, just like the people of Azerbaijan. You try to make an artificial divide.
    I'm sure 10000% you dont speak Azeraycan Türkcesi in any way fluent, you would know that they never call their language Azeri, elders would be even cofused what the hell that is.
    You are some weird Pan-Iranist Shiaist Georgian-Kurd-Turk mixed guy.

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    Tajik from Konibodom district, Sughd vilayat (bordering Kyrgyzstan)
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    # Population Percent
    1 Gedrosia 23.5
    2 Caucasus 17.92
    3 East_Asian 16.26
    4 North_European 16.21
    5 Siberian 10.45
    6 South_Asian 5.64
    7 Southwest_Asian 4.42
    8 Atlantic_Med 4.33
    9 Southeast_Asian 1.28

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Uzbeks (Behar) 11.88
    2 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 14
    3 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 15.44
    4 Hazara (HGDP) 18.84
    5 Uygur (HGDP) 19.07
    6 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.76
    7 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 29.89
    8 Burusho (HGDP) 30.13
    9 Iranians (Behar) 30.18
    10 Iranian (Dodecad) 30.19
    11 Kurd (Dodecad) 30.93
    12 Pathan (HGDP) 32.44
    13 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 32.49
    14 Turks (Behar) 32.52
    15 Lezgins (Behar) 33.04
    16 Turkish (Dodecad) 33.6
    17 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 36.2
    18 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 36.29
    19 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 38.39
    20 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 38.62

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 54.4% Uzbeks (Behar) + 45.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.29
    2 57.3% Uzbeks (Behar) + 42.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.43
    3 58.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 41.5% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.08
    4 73.7% Uzbeks (Behar) + 26.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.4
    5 83.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.9% Daur (HGDP) @ 5.56
    6 78.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 21.6% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 5.8
    7 83.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.8% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 5.82
    8 56% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 44% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.9
    9 74.2% Uzbeks (Behar) + 25.8% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 5.93
    10 58.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 41.5% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6
    11 82.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 17.3% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 6.05
    12 74.9% Uzbeks (Behar) + 25.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 6.11
    13 75.8% Uzbeks (Behar) + 24.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 6.14
    14 83.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Xibo (HGDP) @ 6.31
    15 76.1% Uzbeks (Behar) + 23.9% Pathan (HGDP) @ 6.45
    16 64.7% Hazara (HGDP) + 35.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 6.5
    17 82.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 17.2% Mongola (HGDP) @ 6.52
    18 55.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 44.2% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.56
    19 82% Uzbeks (Behar) + 18% Makrani (HGDP) @ 6.99
    20 77.2% Uzbeks (Behar) + 22.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 7.07

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora View Post
    Gedrosia among Kurmanjis 25 and southwest asian around 14. Some kurds like feyli score even higher. Also many Kurds nowadays score some asian especially Alevis.
    Ya ben kendi köyümü baz alarak böyle bi söylemde bulundum. Belli ki bizim durum biraz eksepsiyonel zira Kürtler için Doğu Asya genetik mirası çok normal bi şey değil ama dediğin gibi dini birtakım hususlara bakıldığı takdirde sanıyorum ki mantık çerçevesine oturabiliyor. Doğu Asya haricinde pek bir fark göremiyorum ben. Quotelamazsan sevinirim bu arada, en azından fotoğraf için


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    Good post, I learned something such as Safavids being Kurds and your mom's side being Jalali Kurds. That explains the oracles someone posted earlier here for Safavids. Truth be told Kurdish history and genetics is very intertwined with other Iranian groups and since Kurds are either the 1st or 2nd minority group in Iran and they are distributed all over the country from West to East Iran,I'm sure many who say they're Iranian have some type of Kurdish ancestry in the past whether they know it or not and visa versa

    That also explains why when someone posts a K12 or Harappa result for some Iranian whether from Khorasan or Kerman or SW Iran Kurds and Iranians are top oracles. My own oracles even often show Iranian in 1st spot.

    Imagine if the references contained Kurds from Kermanshah, Khorasan and other places. In that case it would be impossible to tell from the oracles for many Kurds and Iranians


    All Iraqi Kurd 23andMe results show some regions of Iran in their beta map whether it's Hamadan, Kermanshah, Tehran, Kurdistan or some other province.
    Very logical. Persians evolved from the Medes. The Medes were older and came before the Persians and Persians in Iran came after them.

    The mother of Persian Cyrus the Great was herself a Median. Median King and the grandfather of Cyrus (father of his Median mother), was betrayed by the Armenians and Persians. It were actually the Armenians who betrayed the Medes the most and that's how the Median Empire felt and the Persians have taken the Aryan Empire from the Medes that the Medes found and build for hunderds of years before.


    Western Iranians have a major ancient 'Central Iranian Cluster' (CIC) ancestral component of more than 5000 years old that major ancient component connects all Iranian People together. And according to the recent studies that major Aryan 'Central Iranian Cluster' (CIC) ancestral component comes from Kurdistan. This is a major evidence that Persians came originally from Kurdistan. They have Median/Kurdish blood...

    https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...l.pgen.1008385
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora View Post
    You are 1/4 Turk, you propably dont even speak Turkish. First of all there is no Azeri language, its Azerbaycan Turkcesi. That's what people from Azerbaijan call their language. . Anatolian Turks are genetically closest to Azerbaijani Turks, not to Greeks, Georgians or Arabs. Persians don't carry much genes of Proto-Iranians either, yet you will still claim ancient Parthians(whose results are posted and very different from modern Iranians).Heck compare a Lur to a Proto-Iranic or modern day Baloch, Pasthun, he will be distant to those people and barely have ancestry of those but still will speak the language of these people. But you will never say those people are Elamites and have nothing to do with Iranics. Also we call ourself Turks and we are descended of the Seljuk Turks, it's our heritage and term Turk predates Turkey by 2000 years. Heck, "turkic" never existed in our language. Saying "Azeri Bayat" is an oxymoron, Bayat is a Turkmen tribe, one of the 24 Oghuz Turks tribes, which exists in Iraq Turkey, Azerbaycan and Iran, modern borders don't define our heritage. Thats why a book called Dîvânü Lugati't-Türk was written in 1071, which clearly states the 24 turkish tribes by Kâşgarlı Mahmud(as his name suggest he was from Kashgar, a place far away from Turkey) when the middle east was Iran and middle east was controlled by Turks. The split between Azerbaycani Turks and Anatolian Turks happened only after the 16th century before that it was all together. My ancestors came in the 16th century from Qaradag region of Azerbaycan. And not all Azerbaijanis are Shia, lots are Sunni in Salmas and Xoy region. Also the court and military and court language during the Safavid period was turkish, not "azeri"(this language doesn't exists anymore) or persian, and turkish was the prestige language and many persians were trieing to learn it, compared to modern Iran where turkish education is not even allowed. So you can't claim the heritage of the people who made turkish the court language as a nation which denies this right. Turkey linguistically is more to the Safavid than Iran today is and will be.
    I carry the ancestry of my Seljuk Turk ancestors, we call ourselfs Türk, just like the people of Azerbaijan. You try to make an artificial divide.
    I'm sure 10000% you dont speak Azeraycan Türkcesi in any way fluent, you would know that they never call their language Azeri, elders would be even cofused what the hell that is.
    You are some weird Pan-Iranist Shiaist Georgian-Kurd-Turk mixed guy.

    He's right tho.

    EDIT: Nvm i take that back. Some parts of his comments isn't correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomansman View Post
    Likely kerman kurd:




    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 37.06
    2 Gedrosia 30.31
    3 Southwest_Asian 11.19
    4 North_European 7.56
    5 South_Asian 5.9
    6 Atlantic_Med 5.84
    7 Northwest_African 1.02
    8 Siberian 0.86
    9 East_African 0.16
    10 Sub_Saharan 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Iranian (Dodecad) 4.66
    2 Iranians (Behar) 4.66
    3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.6
    4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 7.68
    5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 13.75
    6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14.74
    7 Turks (Behar) 17.68
    8 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 19.45
    9 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.93
    10 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 20.08
    11 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 20.59
    12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 20.71
    13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 20.87
    14 Lezgins (Behar) 20.99
    15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 21.36
    16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 22.23
    17 Armenian (Dodecad) 22.47
    18 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 23.69
    19 Lebanese (Behar) 23.72
    20 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 24.47

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 84.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 15.4% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 1.8
    2 90.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 1.91
    3 81.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 18.7% Pathan (HGDP) @ 1.97
    4 86.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 13.1% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 2.01
    5 88.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.5% Pathan (HGDP) @ 2.07
    6 87.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.4% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 2.11
    7 88.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 11.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 2.25
    8 91.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 8.6% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 2.34
    9 86.9% Kurd (Dodecad) + 13.1% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 2.34
    10 87.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.1% Indian (Dodecad) @ 2.35
    11 92.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 7.5% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 2.36
    12 88.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.5% Iyengar (Dodecad) @ 2.39
    13 87.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 12.3% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 2.39
    14 88.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11.7% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 2.41
    15 89.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 10.5% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 2.42
    16 83.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 16.7% Burusho (HGDP) @ 2.43
    17 85.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 14.6% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 2.43
    18 90.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.7% Burusho (HGDP) @ 2.53
    19 93% Iranian (Dodecad) + 7% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 2.53
    20 84.1% Kurd (Dodecad) + 15.9% Pathan (HGDP) @ 2.54






    Iranian lur:




    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 36.34
    2 Gedrosia 27.52
    3 Southwest_Asian 15.2
    4 South_Asian 6.64
    5 Atlantic_Med 6.09
    6 North_European 5.7
    7 Southeast_Asian 1.23
    8 Northwest_African 0.81
    9 Siberian 0.31
    10 East_African 0.16

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Iranians (Behar) 4.53
    2 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.86
    3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.85
    4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 7.81
    5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.16
    6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 15.47
    7 Turks (Behar) 17.2
    8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.67
    9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 18.12
    10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 18.65
    11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 18.76
    12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 18.84
    13 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.34
    14 Lebanese (Behar) 20.18
    15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.5
    16 Syrians (Behar) 21.02
    17 Armenian (Dodecad) 21.44
    18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.67
    19 Jordanians (Behar) 23.34
    20 Druze (HGDP) 24.01

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 78.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 21.5% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 1.82
    2 74% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 26% Pathan (HGDP) @ 1.92
    3 78% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 22% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 2.28
    4 66.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 33.9% Pathan (HGDP) @ 2.49
    5 86.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 13.6% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 2.67
    6 81.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 18.1% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 2.78
    7 92.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 7.8% Gond (Metspalu) @ 2.88
    8 92.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 7.4% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.92
    9 92.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 7.2% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 2.93
    10 84.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 15.8% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 2.95
    11 70.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 29.1% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 2.97
    12 89.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 10.3% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 3
    13 91% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 9% Gond (Metspalu) @ 3.02
    14 90.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 9.2% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 3.03
    15 92.9% Kurd (Dodecad) + 7.1% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 3.04
    16 92.3% Kurd (Dodecad) + 7.7% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 3.04
    17 91.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 8.9% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 3.04
    18 90% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 10% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 3.06
    19 90.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 9.6% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 3.08
    20 64.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 35.3% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.08
    surname-background


    Abdi - Azeri Sayyid likely, surname could also be Iranian Arab but I think Azeri Sayyid is more fitting.
    Pajman - Persian
    Mahdara - Persian
    Moradi - Could be any type of Iranian
    Balsarra - Ethnic Zarostrian name, likely from Yazd or Kerman
    Tivay - Likely Persian
    Nikkhessal - Most likely Persian from Yazd
    Saadati- Persian most likely but can be Azeri as well
    Khoshmanesh- Persian and most likely southern
    Nyusha - Not sure
    Aidun- Kurd
    Sadeghi - likely persian Khorasan
    Zare- Persian could be Yazd or Fars etc
    Sorkhi - Persian likely southern
    Rad - Persian, Azeri
    bastaki - Persian likely Isfahani or Yazdi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    Yeah sorry I wasn't sure. Do you remember which sample it was
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    Gedrosia 24.42 Pct
    Siberian 1.63 Pct
    Northwest_African 1.10 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 4.93 Pct
    North_European 12.34 Pct
    South_Asian 5.95 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 9.86 Pct
    East_Asian 0.30 Pct
    Caucasus 39.29 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.17 Pct
    
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    6.65560666 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    7.14205153 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.14205153 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.69040961 Azerbaijani_Iran
    8.35496858 Azerbaijani
    8.37251456 Kurd_Kurmanji
    8.58128778 Iran_Central_East
    8.64250542 Iranian
    8.78799750 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    8.85366591 Zaza
    9.37118456 Kurd_Sorani
    9.40927734 Iran_Khorasan
    9.41502523 Iranian_Fars
    9.78289834 Iran_Mazandaran
    10.26444835 Kurds
    10.30237351 Kurd
    10.42784733 Lur_Iran
    11.50329518 Turkmen_Iraq
    11.54196690 Turk_Southeast
    11.80012288 Iranians
    12.93724855 Turk_East
    13.45886697 Turk_Central_East
    13.74012373 Turk_South
    14.20730446 Circassian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora View Post
    Gedrosia among Kurmanjis 25 and southwest asian around 14. Some kurds like feyli score even higher. Also many Kurds nowadays score some asian especially Alevis.
    Close. My mom's results although I don't take Admixture calculators too seriously. For example no idea how much N European is already part of the Caucasian references and she scores 38% of whatever N European they have. She's 100% Iraqi Kurd.


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 38.70
    2 Gedrosia 27.10
    3 Southwest_Asian 13.08
    4 Atlantic_Med 8.80
    5 North_European 5.35
    6 South_Asian 2.58
    7 Southeast_Asian 1.85
    8 Siberian 1.31


    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
    12 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Kurd_Dodecad @ 4.510715
    2 Iranian_Dodecad @ 4.576439
    3 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 5.401006
    4 Iranians_Behar @ 5.949597
    5 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 11.248126
    6 Turks_Behar @ 15.320068
    7 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 16.647995
    8 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 17.358679
    9 Turkish_Dodecad @ 17.638823
    10 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 17.697147
    11 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 18.064690
    12 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 18.254324
    13 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 19.082823
    14 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 19.670078
    15 Armenian_Dodecad @ 20.531940
    16 Lebanese_Behar @ 20.560114
    17 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 21.092419
    18 Syrians_Behar @ 22.330591
    19 Armenians_Behar @ 24.424843
    20 Druze_HGDP @ 24.427988

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Iranian_Dodecad +50% Kurd_Dodecad @ 4.231986


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Iranians_Behar +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.518364


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 2.023722
    2 Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iraq_Jews_Behar + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev @ 2.026709
    3 Adygei_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 2.036094
    4 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 2.038555
    5 Adygei_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 2.073639
    6 Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev @ 2.145741
    7 Armenians_Behar + Balochi_HGDP + Lebanese_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.216809
    8 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP @ 2.312281
    9 Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP @ 2.356768
    10 Assyrian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP @ 2.364972
    11 Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 2.387848
    12 Assyrian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 2.403936
    13 Armenian_Dodecad + Makrani_HGDP + Turkish_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.416293
    14 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 2.441232
    15 Armenians_Behar + Balochi_HGDP + Lebanese_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.456711
    16 Armenians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Turkish_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.467987
    17 Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.518364
    18 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Brahui_HGDP + Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 2.545626
    19 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP + Turkish_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.571443
    20 Assyrian_Dodecad + Balkars_Yunusbayev + Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar @ 2.584645
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