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You are 1/4 Turk, you propably dont even speak Turkish. First of all there is no Azeri language, its Azerbaycan Turkcesi. That's what people from Azerbaijan call their language. . Anatolian Turks are genetically closest to Azerbaijani Turks, not to Greeks, Georgians or Arabs. Persians don't carry much genes of Proto-Iranians either, yet you will still claim ancient Parthians(whose results are posted and very different from modern Iranians).Heck compare a Lur to a Proto-Iranic or modern day Baloch, Pasthun, he will be distant to those people and barely have ancestry of those but still will speak the language of these people. But you will never say those people are Elamites and have nothing to do with Iranics. Also we call ourself Turks and we are descended of the Seljuk Turks, it's our heritage and term Turk predates Turkey by 2000 years. Heck, "turkic" never existed in our language. Saying "Azeri Bayat" is an oxymoron, Bayat is a Turkmen tribe, one of the 24 Oghuz Turks tribes, which exists in Iraq Turkey, Azerbaycan and Iran, modern borders don't define our heritage. Thats why a book called Dîvânü Lugati't-Türk was written in 1071, which clearly states the 24 turkish tribes by Kâşgarlı Mahmud(as his name suggest he was from Kashgar, a place far away from Turkey) when the middle east was Iran and middle east was controlled by Turks. The split between Azerbaycani Turks and Anatolian Turks happened only after the 16th century before that it was all together. My ancestors came in the 16th century from Qaradag region of Azerbaycan. And not all Azerbaijanis are Shia, lots are Sunni in Salmas and Xoy region. Also the court and military and court language during the Safavid period was turkish, not "azeri"(this language doesn't exists anymore) or persian, and turkish was the prestige language and many persians were trieing to learn it, compared to modern Iran where turkish education is not even allowed. So you can't claim the heritage of the people who made turkish the court language as a nation which denies this right. Turkey linguistically is more close to the Safavid than Iran today is and will be.
I carry the ancestry of my Seljuk Turk ancestors, we call ourselfs Türk, just like the people of Azerbaijan. You try to make an artificial divide.
I'm sure 10000% you dont speak Azeraycan Türkcesi in any way fluent, you would know that they never call their language Azeri, elders would be even cofused what the hell that is.
You are some weird Pan-Iranist Shiaist Georgian-Kurd-Turk mixed guy.
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Tajik from Konibodom district, Sughd vilayat (bordering Kyrgyzstan)
Heavy Mong input
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 23.5
2 Caucasus 17.92
3 East_Asian 16.26
4 North_European 16.21
5 Siberian 10.45
6 South_Asian 5.64
7 Southwest_Asian 4.42
8 Atlantic_Med 4.33
9 Southeast_Asian 1.28
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Uzbeks (Behar) 11.88
2 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 14
3 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 15.44
4 Hazara (HGDP) 18.84
5 Uygur (HGDP) 19.07
6 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.76
7 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 29.89
8 Burusho (HGDP) 30.13
9 Iranians (Behar) 30.18
10 Iranian (Dodecad) 30.19
11 Kurd (Dodecad) 30.93
12 Pathan (HGDP) 32.44
13 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 32.49
14 Turks (Behar) 32.52
15 Lezgins (Behar) 33.04
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 33.6
17 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 36.2
18 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 36.29
19 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 38.39
20 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 38.62
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.4% Uzbeks (Behar) + 45.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.29
2 57.3% Uzbeks (Behar) + 42.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.43
3 58.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 41.5% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.08
4 73.7% Uzbeks (Behar) + 26.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.4
5 83.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.9% Daur (HGDP) @ 5.56
6 78.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 21.6% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 5.8
7 83.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.8% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 5.82
8 56% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 44% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.9
9 74.2% Uzbeks (Behar) + 25.8% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 5.93
10 58.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 41.5% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6
11 82.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 17.3% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 6.05
12 74.9% Uzbeks (Behar) + 25.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 6.11
13 75.8% Uzbeks (Behar) + 24.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 6.14
14 83.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Xibo (HGDP) @ 6.31
15 76.1% Uzbeks (Behar) + 23.9% Pathan (HGDP) @ 6.45
16 64.7% Hazara (HGDP) + 35.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 6.5
17 82.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 17.2% Mongola (HGDP) @ 6.52
18 55.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 44.2% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.56
19 82% Uzbeks (Behar) + 18% Makrani (HGDP) @ 6.99
20 77.2% Uzbeks (Behar) + 22.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 7.07
Ya ben kendi köyümü baz alarak böyle bi söylemde bulundum. Belli ki bizim durum biraz eksepsiyonel zira Kürtler için Doğu Asya genetik mirası çok normal bi şey değil ama dediğin gibi dini birtakım hususlara bakıldığı takdirde sanıyorum ki mantık çerçevesine oturabiliyor. Doğu Asya haricinde pek bir fark göremiyorum ben. Quotelamazsan sevinirim bu arada, en azından fotoğraf için
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Very logical. Persians evolved from the Medes. The Medes were older and came before the Persians and Persians in Iran came after them.
The mother of Persian Cyrus the Great was herself a Median. Median King and the grandfather of Cyrus (father of his Median mother), was betrayed by the Armenians and Persians. It were actually the Armenians who betrayed the Medes the most and that's how the Median Empire felt and the Persians have taken the Aryan Empire from the Medes that the Medes found and build for hunderds of years before.
Western Iranians have a major ancient 'Central Iranian Cluster' (CIC) ancestral component of more than 5000 years old that major ancient component connects all Iranian People together. And according to the recent studies that major Aryan 'Central Iranian Cluster' (CIC) ancestral component comes from Kurdistan. This is a major evidence that Persians came originally from Kurdistan. They have Median/Kurdish blood...
https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...l.pgen.1008385
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surname-background
Abdi - Azeri Sayyid likely, surname could also be Iranian Arab but I think Azeri Sayyid is more fitting.
Pajman - Persian
Mahdara - Persian
Moradi - Could be any type of Iranian
Balsarra - Ethnic Zarostrian name, likely from Yazd or Kerman
Tivay - Likely Persian
Nikkhessal - Most likely Persian from Yazd
Saadati- Persian most likely but can be Azeri as well
Khoshmanesh- Persian and most likely southern
Nyusha - Not sure
Aidun- Kurd
Sadeghi - likely persian Khorasan
Zare- Persian could be Yazd or Fars etc
Sorkhi - Persian likely southern
Rad - Persian, Azeri
bastaki - Persian likely Isfahani or Yazdi
will do more tomorrow ...
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Code:Sassanian 1430-1485 CE Gedrosia 24.42 Pct Siberian 1.63 Pct Northwest_African 1.10 Pct Southeast_Asian - Atlantic_Med 4.93 Pct North_European 12.34 Pct South_Asian 5.95 Pct East_African - Southwest_Asian 9.86 Pct East_Asian 0.30 Pct Caucasus 39.29 Pct Sub_Saharan 0.17 Pct Distance to: Ganj_Dareh_His 6.65560666 Azerbaijani_Dagestan 7.14205153 Talysh_Azerbaijan 7.14205153 Talysh_Azerbaijan 7.69040961 Azerbaijani_Iran 8.35496858 Azerbaijani 8.37251456 Kurd_Kurmanji 8.58128778 Iran_Central_East 8.64250542 Iranian 8.78799750 Azerbaijani_Turkey 8.85366591 Zaza 9.37118456 Kurd_Sorani 9.40927734 Iran_Khorasan 9.41502523 Iranian_Fars 9.78289834 Iran_Mazandaran 10.26444835 Kurds 10.30237351 Kurd 10.42784733 Lur_Iran 11.50329518 Turkmen_Iraq 11.54196690 Turk_Southeast 11.80012288 Iranians 12.93724855 Turk_East 13.45886697 Turk_Central_East 13.74012373 Turk_South 14.20730446 Circassian 14.34555332 Kumyks
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Close. My mom's results although I don't take Admixture calculators too seriously. For example no idea how much N European is already part of the Caucasian references and she scores 38% of whatever N European they have. She's 100% Iraqi Kurd.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.70
2 Gedrosia 27.10
3 Southwest_Asian 13.08
4 Atlantic_Med 8.80
5 North_European 5.35
6 South_Asian 2.58
7 Southeast_Asian 1.85
8 Siberian 1.31
Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kurd_Dodecad @ 4.510715
2 Iranian_Dodecad @ 4.576439
3 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 5.401006
4 Iranians_Behar @ 5.949597
5 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 11.248126
6 Turks_Behar @ 15.320068
7 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 16.647995
8 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 17.358679
9 Turkish_Dodecad @ 17.638823
10 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 17.697147
11 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 18.064690
12 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 18.254324
13 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 19.082823
14 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 19.670078
15 Armenian_Dodecad @ 20.531940
16 Lebanese_Behar @ 20.560114
17 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 21.092419
18 Syrians_Behar @ 22.330591
19 Armenians_Behar @ 24.424843
20 Druze_HGDP @ 24.427988
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_Dodecad +50% Kurd_Dodecad @ 4.231986
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranians_Behar +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.518364
Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 2.023722
2 Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iraq_Jews_Behar + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev @ 2.026709
3 Adygei_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 2.036094
4 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 2.038555
5 Adygei_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 2.073639
6 Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev @ 2.145741
7 Armenians_Behar + Balochi_HGDP + Lebanese_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.216809
8 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP @ 2.312281
9 Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP @ 2.356768
10 Assyrian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP @ 2.364972
11 Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 2.387848
12 Assyrian_Dodecad + Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 2.403936
13 Armenian_Dodecad + Makrani_HGDP + Turkish_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.416293
14 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Balochi_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 2.441232
15 Armenians_Behar + Balochi_HGDP + Lebanese_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.456711
16 Armenians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Turkish_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.467987
17 Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Iranians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.518364
18 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Brahui_HGDP + Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 2.545626
19 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP + Turkish_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.571443
20 Assyrian_Dodecad + Balkars_Yunusbayev + Brahui_HGDP + Cypriots_Behar @ 2.584645
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