South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[Pribislav]

I got her among my matches in Gedmetch. Surname Đurić and she is number 11.

This is my matches on Gedmatch. All Krajina Serbs (from todays Croatia).
Green dot 12 is me, and red dot is average dot of these 12 Krajina Serbs.

Yea, Đurić.

She has similar Baltic score as you (slightly lower), but higher NA.

Can you made Eartly_Slavic, Paleo-Balkan, Celto-Germanic calculator for her?

And for this Sandžakian Bosniak 20200331_234829.jpg

[Pribislav]

And for this Sandžakian Bosniak 20200331_234829.jpg

This Sandžakian iz J2b, surname Tutuć.

[Leto]

And for this Sandžakian Bosniak 20200331_234829.jpg

Wow, straight up Bolgar. Also 20% for both East and West Med (I asked a question about that).

[Pribislav]

Wow, straight up Bolgar. Also 20% for both East and West Med (I asked a question about that).

Sandžakians from East Sandžak are in vast majority of Albanian origin. This one is probably one of them.
Their ancestors were Catholic Albanians (Malesors) from northern Albania who settled in East Sandžak on Ottoman initiative in 18th century, Ottomans gave them land and privilegies for conversion on Islam.
East Sandžakians became bilingual in 19th century (except Albanian they started to speak Serbian which learned from islamized Serbs), after WW2 Albanian language among them almost disappeared. Today only few older Sandžakians still know Albanian language.
In Serbian Sandžak vast majority of Muslims are bosbiakized, and in Montenegrin Sandžak less but still significant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandžak

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Woman from Bosnia. Serbian father (from Zavidovići), Bosniak mother:

Spoiler!

Kit GE4396977

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.54
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 East_Med 14.04
4 West_Med 13.52
5 West_Asian 12.62
6 East_Asian 1.45
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Oceanian 0.9
9 South_Asian 0.83
10 Red_Sea 0.76
11 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.17
2 Serbian 7.04
3 Croatian 8.18
4 Romanian 8.36
5 Bulgarian 9.57
6 Hungarian 10.32
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.59
8 Austrian 14.61
9 South_Polish 14.69
10 Ukrainian 14.86
11 East_German 15.52
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.17
13 Southwest_Russian 17.3
14 Polish 18.01
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.39
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.52
17 Tatar 20.13
18 Estonian_Polish 20.24
19 West_German 20.75
20 Belorussian 20.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Armenian @ 2.41
2 84.5% Croatian + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.43
3 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Assyrian @ 2.53
4 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.69
5 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Azeri @ 2.7
6 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% Turkish @ 2.73
7 59.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.6% Central_Greek @ 2.76
8 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Kurdish @ 2.76
9 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.81
10 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Assyrian @ 2.81
11 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Armenian @ 2.84
12 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% South_Italian @ 2.84
13 85.5% Croatian + 14.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.9
14 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.92
15 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.93
16 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Kurdish @ 2.93
17 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.94
18 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.99
19 89.8% Moldavian + 10.2% Azeri @ 2.99
20 91.4% Moldavian + 8.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.06

The interesting part are her mother's results. This is not the first Bosniak I've seen on gedmatch that has partial Gypsy ancestry. Looks like they're not so pure as you'd guess by how they talk about Serbians in online comments:

Spoiler!

Kit RU6169471

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.4
2 North_Atlantic 19.29
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 12.71
5 West_Asian 10.87
6 South_Asian 5.2
7 Red_Sea 2.68
8 Oceanian 2.02
9 East_Asian 1.59
10 Northeast_African 0.6
11 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.66
2 Serbian 9.07
3 Romanian 9.33
4 Bulgarian 9.97
5 Croatian 10.95
6 Hungarian 13.51
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.89
8 Austrian 17.09
9 Greek_Thessaly 17.13
10 Ukrainian 17.38
11 South_Polish 17.61
12 East_German 17.9
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.94
14 Southwest_Russian 19.96
15 Polish 20.57
16 Tatar 20.81
17 Russian_Smolensk 21.9
18 Estonian_Polish 22.53
19 North_Italian 22.56
20 West_German 22.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% Syrian @ 4.86
2 88% Moldavian + 12% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.95
3 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.01
4 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.01
5 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Assyrian @ 5.06
6 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Iranian @ 5.06
7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% Jordanian @ 5.11
8 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Samaritan @ 5.13
9 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Turkish @ 5.15
10 88% Moldavian + 12% Bedouin @ 5.16
11 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Azeri @ 5.16
12 88% Moldavian + 12% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.2
14 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Cyprian @ 5.23
15 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Palestinian @ 5.26
16 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Armenian @ 5.26
17 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Kurdish @ 5.27
18 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Velamas @ 5.28
19 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Bangladeshi @ 5.29
20 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Dusadh @ 5.32

With 0.83 noone would expect the woman to have any Gypsy ancestry. Could you post their Harappaworld results?

[Dušan]

Yea, Đurić.

She has similar Baltic score as you (slightly lower), but higher NA.

Can you made Eartly_Slavic, Paleo-Balkan, Celto-Germanic calculator for her?

And for this Sandžakian Bosniak 20200331_234829.jpg

[Dušan]

I got her among my matches in Gedmetch. Surname Đurić and she is number 11.

This is my matches on Gedmatch. All Krajina Serbs (from todays Croatia).
Green dot 12 is me, and red dot is average dot of these 12 Krajina Serbs.

As people can see, Krajina Serbs are not different from other Serbs.

Overlapping with Croats is minimal, and only individual.
There were no mixing with them.

[Pribislav]

Sandžos je jedan od Zukorloćevih talibana sa tkz. bošnjačkog dnk projekta, koji je zapravo sandžački dnk projekat.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Thanks Dusan, didn't see the kit nmb there.

Kit GE4396977

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 39.42
2 Mediterranean 22.58
3 Caucasian 22.55
4 Baloch 8.23
5 SW-Asian 2.75
6 SE-Asian 1.27
7 S-Indian 1.25
8 American 1.23
9 Papuan 0.58
10 E-African 0.11


Probably some other samples would be needed to properly state whether HarappaWorld is a good predictor of actual S. Indian ancestry.

[Leto]

Thanks Dusan, didn't see the kit nmb there.

Kit GE4396977

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 39.42
2 Mediterranean 22.58
3 Caucasian 22.55
4 Baloch 8.23
5 SW-Asian 2.75
6 SE-Asian 1.27
7 S-Indian 1.25
8 American 1.23
9 Papuan 0.58
10 E-African 0.11


Probably some other samples would be needed to properly state whether HarappaWorld is a good predictor of actual S. Indian ancestry.

Baloch isn't S-Indian. Gypsies score 20-25% S-Indian on HW.