"North Macedonian"

[JohnnyP]

Are you high on crack? There are more than 3 recordings, one of them ny von hann who was considered the father of albanology, all of them gave the same percentages 9%-15%, there's nothing mysterious about that nor it has to do with any myth

As for the latter yes, you needed to be Christian to be Greek, which lead to the deportion of all muslim albanians after 1840s, nlike fyrom where you need to be everything to be "Macedonian". That doesn't mean that minorities were not allowed to speak their language, and arvanites speak it even today

Again you speak out of your ass, btw Deporting ethnicities out of Greece was familiar even back to 1840s nice.I dont said it secret, but Athens and around was in majority Albanian speaking people.Also culturaly Albanian.
Again you are full of shit.
Can you give me prove about your claim for definition of Macedonian?

[brennus dux gallorum]

Again you speak out of your ass, btw Deporting ethnicities out of Greece was familiar even back to 1840s nice.I dont said it secret, but Athens and around was in majority Albanian speaking people.Also culturaly Albanian.
Again you are full of shit.
Can you give me prove about your claim for definition of Macedonian?

Are you completely idiot? I gave you the most important author about this issue

Yes, people AROUND Athens (with the exception of 3-4 villages and towns like megara) were arvanites. The same goes to southern boetia and nearby regionsof the peloponnese. And all censuses of that era including census of albanology scholars like von hann say that these arvanites represented a 9%-15% of the first Greek kingdom population. You know the first Greek kingdom wasn't just Athens l, but all of central Greece and peloponnese as well

[JohnnyP]

Are you completely idiot? I gave you the most important author about this issue

Yes, people AROUND Athens (with the exception of 3-4 villages and towns like megara) were arvanites. The same goes to southern boetia and nearby regionsof the peloponnese. And all censuses of that era including census of albanology scholars like von hann say that these arvanites represented a 9%-15% of the first Greek kingdom. You know the first Greek kingdom wasn't just Athens l, but all of central Greece and peloponnese as well

"When King Otto of Greece came in Greece in 1830,he hardly heard anyone speak in Greek and so he asked:"Where are the Greeks in Athens?"His court looked at each other and answered:"There are not Greeks,but do not be troubled because this Albanian population will always be faithful to your monarchy"
-Zaharias Papantoniou ,Greek Writer, b."King Otto".


Edit :
you can see Albanians and "Greek" Pelloponnese ...

[Bardhyl]

Albanians from Greece (1896)

[brennus dux gallorum]

"When King Otto of Greece came in Greece in 1830,he hardly heard anyone speak in Greek and so he asked:"Where are the Greeks in Athens?"His court looked at each other and answered:"There are not Greeks,but do not be troubled because this Albanian population will always be faithful to your monarchy"
-Zaharias Papantoniou ,Greek Writer, b."King Otto".


Edit :
you can see Albanians and "Greek" Pelloponnese ...

Apart from idiot you are completely autistic as well, right?

Attica is the only part of southern Greece with an arvanitic majority among natives, as with the exception of 3-4 villages nobody speak Greek as his main language, but i am trying to explain you idiot, that Atticas population was only a small part of southern Greek population, with the rest of southern Greek prefectures being overwhelmingly Greek speaking with no arvanites in them, but you stuck in Attica and its arvanites

Ok, attica was mostly arvanitic. The rest of southern Greece according to van hann and Alfred philipson represented a 9-15% of people in SOUTHERN GREECE (again, not in Attica) meanwhile Athens had its own GREEK dialect:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vari...f_Modern_Greek

See modern varieties

So if you want arvanites to not be ancient Greeks fine, they obviously aren't. Still, there's a 85-90% of people in southern Greece who are direct descendants of ancient Greeks, even if they have further admixtures. And peloponnesians idiot are genetically closer to people from central Italy than Albania, the fact that you picked a chart focused only in Greece and Albania doesn't change this fact. Plus it makes sense for peloponnese to be closer to Albanians than Slavic newcomers, without that having anything to do with arvanites. Both Greeks and Albanians are native

At the same time, you are Slavs who live in a country which was not inhabited by Macedonians in antiquity, and claim ancient Macedonian heritage. Does this make sense?

[JohnnyP]

Albanians from Greece (1896)

The newspaper Christian Herald features a Macedonian story with pictures on 6 January 1904 from nowdays "North Greece"

[brennus dux gallorum]

Albanians from Greece (1896)

Yes, we know that a 3% of Greek population has Albanian background, just like even more Albanians have Greek background. Your point?

[Tauromachos]

Albanians from Greece (1896)

[JohnnyP]

Apart from idiot you are completely autistic as well, right?

Attica is the only part of southern Greece with an arvanitic majority among natives, as with the exception of 3-4 villages nobody speak Greek as his main language, but i am trying to explain you idiot, that Atticas population was only a small part of southern Greek population, with the rest of southern Greek prefectures being overwhelmingly Greek speaking with no arvanites in them, but you stuck in Attica and its arvanites

Ok, attica was mostly arvanitic. The rest of southern Greece according to van hann and Alfred philipson represented a 9-15% of people in SOUTHERN GREECE (again, not in Attica) meanwhile Athens had its own GREEK dialect:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vari...f_Modern_Greek

See modern varieties

So if you want arvanites to not be ancient Greeks fine, they obviously aren't. Still, there's a 85-90% of people in southern Greece who are direct descendants of ancient Greeks, even if they have further admixtures. And peloponnesians idiot are genetically closer to people from central Italy than Albania, the fact that you picked a chart focused only in Greece and Albania doesn't change this fact. Plus it makes sense for peloponnese to be closer to Albanians than Slavic newcomers, without that having anything to do with arvanites. Both Greeks and Albanians are native

At the same time, you are Slavs who live in a country which was not inhabited by Macedonians in antiquity, and claim ancient Macedonian heritage. Does this make sense?

Hahahaha, you are idiot for sure.Hahahahaha.
My point is , your "Greeks" live only on Islands,Athens was full of Albanians not 3% you can see visuals by Genetic also,my another point is that "your mainland" is Macedo-Albanian.Nothing to do with your "ANCIENT HELLENES".Also your "GREEKS" from Pontus seems to me mix of Armenians + Laz people, nothing greek there.Closest to Myceneans are probably Crete Greeks.
Again if you are blind

Also you can see where your "greeks" plotting especially North "Greeks" and Thessaly, because of course they have not Slavic input, only Macedonians have (Sarcasm), also you can check you toponyms across whole Greece...That would be better.

[Tauromachos]

and you are SlavoVlach..

Mediteranitzsku Hellene!