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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    No, she was born in Ukraine and is married to a native Ukrainian speaking Ukrainian. But her maiden family name, Tsurkan, is of Moldovan/Romanian origin (original Latin version, as hers is transliterated from Cyrillic probably, is Turcan). It is very popular in R. Moldova.
    I think she's a half Ukrainian mix. She looks like the female version of Nurzat, who is half Ukrainian.
    I've used for Moldavian an average of some samples I find more relevant (about 10 samples both from RM and RO), outliers excluded:
    Moldavian,23.542,27.288,16.546,10.864,16.132,1.706 ,0.3,0.848,1.9975,0.418,0.396,0.054,0.032

    distance is not ideal (normal for mixed people but can also point to a different source we can't figure out):


    Target: Tsurkanka
    Distance: 4.3030% / 4.30296412
    53.8 Moldavian
    46.2 Belorussian

    Target: Tsurkanka
    Distance: 5.6200% / 5.61997732
    51.2 Southwest_Russian
    48.8 Moldavian

    Target: Tsurkanka
    Distance: 6.1322% / 6.13217471
    56.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
    38.8 Moldavian
    4.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod


    when I place Belorussian in the source it gets all the % against Ukrainian/Russian/Slovak/Lithuanian. so Belorussian (north Ukrainian?) seems best proxy for about half of her ancestry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Haha, I actually thought of Nurzat too
    Can you also share her Dodecad components?
    Ladogan connection

    Spoiler!


    since PreSlavic wasn't in the plates, I've compared to it separately, good result:

    Spoiler!
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    2 Romanian samples via GEDMatch one to many, names CHireac and Oprisan, region is not known.

    Woman Chireac


    Population
    North_Atlantic 24.82 Pct
    Baltic 28.86 Pct
    West_Med 16.91 Pct
    West_Asian 7.63 Pct
    East_Med 16.16 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.99 Pct
    South_Asian 0.72 Pct
    East_Asian 0.41 Pct
    Siberian 1.50 Pct
    Amerindian 0.52 Pct
    Oceanian 0.48 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    WOman Oprisan

    Population
    North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct
    Baltic 21.83 Pct
    West_Med 18.53 Pct
    West_Asian 12.82 Pct
    East_Med 20.66 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.65 Pct
    South_Asian 0.45 Pct
    East_Asian 1.69 Pct
    Siberian 1.43 Pct
    Amerindian 1.25 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -
    Just a 26.6% European individual

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    K13 56.9% Tu(ran)scan + 43.1% Ukrainian @ 4.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow View Post
    2 Romanian samples via GEDMatch one to many, names CHireac and Oprisan, region is not known.

    Woman Chireac


    Population
    North_Atlantic 24.82 Pct
    Baltic 28.86 Pct
    West_Med 16.91 Pct
    West_Asian 7.63 Pct
    East_Med 16.16 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.99 Pct
    South_Asian 0.72 Pct
    East_Asian 0.41 Pct
    Siberian 1.50 Pct
    Amerindian 0.52 Pct
    Oceanian 0.48 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    WOman Oprisan

    Population
    North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct
    Baltic 21.83 Pct
    West_Med 18.53 Pct
    West_Asian 12.82 Pct
    East_Med 20.66 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.65 Pct
    South_Asian 0.45 Pct
    East_Asian 1.69 Pct
    Siberian 1.43 Pct
    Amerindian 1.25 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -
    We have the 2nd, I'll add the first. Oprisan is from Romania's Moldavia btw, as the surname doesn't exist in R. Moldova.

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    I've got another person from Central Moldova, in this village from Cimislia at the crossroads with Ialoveni and Hincesti.



    As was the case with the person from Hincesti, this person also scores 29% Baltic. Other persons already posted in the list from Central Moldova are from Ungheni - 26%, Zmey Gorynich who was a mix of Ialoveni and Telenesti at 33%, my dad at 32%. His paternal village in Orhei though is next door to Rezina and at the same latitude as Falesti, so technically he can be considered both Central and Northern.



    Speaking of Northern, there are 3 more samples and it seems that as Aspirin noticed previously, 33% is more or less the average there among unmixed Moldovans/Romanians.
    The new ones are from:
    Ocnita - 33%
    Balti (Moldovan/Romanian maiden surname name) - 31%
    Balti (offspring of the above, but dad's surname is Russian and she uses the feminine desinence "-a" after "-ov" meaning that their family's native language is most likely Russian) - 33%
    This surname is also most popular among Latvian Russians than anywhere else, so on her dad's side I'm not sure of the origin, but given that she doesn't deviate much from the mom, dad might be heavily mixed locally.

    I'll post the full update later in the evening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow View Post
    WOman Oprisan

    Population
    North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct
    Baltic 21.83 Pct
    West_Med 18.53 Pct
    West_Asian 12.82 Pct
    East_Med 20.66 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.65 Pct
    South_Asian 0.45 Pct
    East_Asian 1.69 Pct
    Siberian 1.43 Pct
    Amerindian 1.25 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -
    Some Romanians are really low in Slavic ancestry.
    Baltic 21.83 Pct

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    Update v5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Some Romanians are really low in Slavic ancestry.
    Baltic 21.83 Pct
    Hard to really understand what has gone on in this ountry to see such diverse results, more specifically, how some score 20-20 na/baltic when you see even Bulgarians with more na/baltic sometimes. You'd expect things to go up the morth north you are but it's not necessarily reality.
    Just a 26.6% European individual

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    K13 56.9% Tu(ran)scan + 43.1% Ukrainian @ 4.02

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    That person with surname Vrabie from Gura-Galbenei is visible northern for that area. I checked local surnames from that village and majority of them are Moldavian.

    https://localitati.casata.md/index.p...litate&id=2919

    Pictures with high-school graduates from that village:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    That person with surname Vrabie from Gura-Galbenei is visible northern for that area. I checked local surnames from that village and majority of them are Moldavian.

    https://localitati.casata.md/index.p...litate&id=2919

    .fkiv1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18813938_1884782468406771_8456421750771398870_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=jByi4vhZuXMAX825eWS&_nc_ht=scontent.fkiv1-1.fna&oh=79b114873daef0cd6226f3e6ae352508&oe=5EAB50AF[/IMG]
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    Gura-Galbenei sits at the crossroads with Hincesti, Ialoveni and is only 30km from Chisinau. His results are in line with others from the central area.

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