Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Ion Basescul]

I really do not know from where.


Her daughter results:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.03
2 North_Atlantic 24.67
3 East_Med 17.48
4 West_Med 16.77
5 West_Asian 7.82
6 South_Asian 2.06
7 Oceanian 1.57
8 Amerindian 1.5
9 Siberian 1.16
10 Red_Sea 1.08
11 Sub-Saharan 0.36
12 East_Asian 0.31
13 Northeast_African 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.09
2 Serbian 4.82
3 Bulgarian 5.77
4 Moldavian 10.06
5 Hungarian 11.71
6 Croatian 12.53
7 Greek_Thessaly 12.81
8 Austrian 14.56
9 North_Italian 15.9
10 East_German 16.21
11 Tuscan 16.64
12 West_German 18.12
13 French 18.56
14 Italian_Abruzzo 18.91
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.91
16 South_Polish 19.51
17 South_Dutch 19.74
18 Portuguese 19.82
19 West_Sicilian 19.91
20 Central_Greek 19.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.2% Greek_Thessaly + 31.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.84
2 50.2% West_Sicilian + 49.8% Ukrainian @ 2.87
3 60.1% West_Sicilian + 39.9% Estonian @ 3.04
4 70.1% Greek_Thessaly + 29.9% Finnish @ 3.2
5 61.9% Croatian + 38.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.2
6 51.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.22
7 70.5% Greek_Thessaly + 29.5% Estonian @ 3.24
8 52.4% Hungarian + 47.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.27
9 50.5% South_Polish + 49.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.27
10 56.4% West_Sicilian + 43.6% Estonian_Polish @ 3.31
11 60.9% West_Sicilian + 39.1% Lithuanian @ 3.32
12 55.5% South_Italian + 44.5% Estonian @ 3.34
13 53.8% West_Sicilian + 46.2% Polish @ 3.37
14 58.6% Tuscan + 41.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.41
15 70.4% Croatian + 29.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.43
16 63.4% Tuscan + 36.6% Erzya @ 3.44
17 54% West_Sicilian + 46% Southwest_Russian @ 3.45
18 56% West_Sicilian + 44% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.48
19 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% South_Polish @ 3.49
20 67.5% Moldavian + 32.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.5

Yep, her daughter's South Asian is halved, so no surprises here.
Since full Romas score between 20-25% South Asian on K13, Moldovan is probably 1/4 Roma, without apparently knowing it.
I'm deleting her from the Moldavia and R. Moldova table then, since we are not sure if her Csango side is from there.

[Ion Basescul]

Yes, but in that district exist minorities of Balkan origin.

For example this Moldo/Bulgarian mixed village is neighbouring with Gura-Galbenei. Look at the surnames.

https://localitati.casata.md/index.p...litate&id=2942

Yep, all of those ending in "-ev" and most of those ending in "-ov" are definitely of Bulgarian origin.
I don't know the background of that person's grandparents, but the person is a Romanian speaker, has a Romanian/Moldovan surname and forename.
I also personally think that their results are typical of the central area, judging by the samples that I found so far. I can't say if that individual is Northern shifted for Gura-Galbenei, because I haven't seen any other samples from there. As I already said, I don't trust that phenotypes are reliable predictors for one's autosomal DNA.

[Aspirin]

Yep, all of those ending in "-ev" and most of those ending in "-ov" are definitely of Bulgarian origin.
I don't know the background of that person's grandparents, but the person is a Romanian speaker, has a Romanian/Moldovan surname and forename.
I also personally think that their results are typical of the central area, judging by the samples that I found so far. I can't say if that individual is Northern shifted for Gura-Galbenei, because I haven't seen any other samples from there. As I already said, I don't trust that phenotypes are reliable predictors for one's autosomal DNA.

I don't say he is northern shifted, but he live in a district were exist minorities of Balkan origin, and he seems untouched by them geneticaly.

[Ion Basescul]

Update v8
Moldovan has been deleted and moved to the Wallachian table

[andre]

The csangos from Dobrogea are from my great-grandparent village in Moldova “Luizi-Calugara”. After the ww1 the romanian governament donate to that people some lands in Dobrogea and they founded “Oituz” in Constanta Country.

Ps. Some csangos are admixed with gypsys but there are a small minority, and a lot of that have Romanian-Gypsy surname: “Feraru” “Ferariu” “Linguraru” etc

[Ion Basescul]

I don't say he is northern shifted, but he live in a district were exist minorities of Balkan origin, and he seems untouched by them geneticaly.

That person with surname Vrabie from Gura-Galbenei is visible northern for that area. I checked local surnames from that village and majority of them are Moldavian.

https://localitati.casata.md/index.p...litate&id=2919

Pictures with high-school graduates from that village:

Spoiler!

He could be touched, but after great-grandparent level, most of the admixture gets reshuffled so much that it gets almost impossible to understand where it comes from, especially if we are talking about ethnicities that are relatively close genetically. At that stage, it's hard to prove with autosomal DNA and only a family tree will help.

[Ion Basescul]

The csangos from Dobrogea are from my great-grandparent village in Moldova “Luizi-Calugara”. After the ww1 the romanian governament donate to that people some lands in Dobrogea and they founded “Oituz” in Constanta Country.

Ps. Some csangos are admixed with gypsys but there are a small minority, and a lot of that have Romanian-Gypsy surname: “Feraru” “Ferariu” “Linguraru” etc

That reminds me, we don't have you in our list. You can post your results if you want to be added.

[andre]

23andme V3

Bacau Romanian, 1/4 Csango

North_Atlantic 23.04 Pct
Baltic 29.67 Pct
West_Med 14.32 Pct
West_Asian 8.00 Pct
East_Med 19.96 Pct
Red_Sea 3.18 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.19 Pct
Siberian 1.18 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.29 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.17 Pct

[Ion Basescul]

Update v9
+andre

[Leto]

Update v9

Did you decide not to add the self-described Russian from Bender, Transnistria?

From Pridnestrovie (Transnistria)

Eurogenes K13

Population
Baltic 39.49 Pct
North_Atlantic 19.49 Pct
West_Asian 12.18 Pct
West_Med 12.12 Pct
East_Med 8.25 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 3.82 Pct
East_Asian 1.27 Pct
Oceanian 1.11 Pct
Amerindian 0.89 Pct
Siberian 0.87 Pct
Northeast_African 0.51 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

He is obviously mixed with Vlachs and maybe something else. Both his Baltic and North Atlantic are too low for an unmixed Russian from Russia.