Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Leto]

Gagauz average

North_Atlantic 19.35
Baltic 23.14
West_Med 17.99
West_Asian 12.57
East_Med 21.48
Red_Sea 2.9
South_Asian 0.52
East_Asian 0.25
Siberian 0.69
Amerindian 0.40
Oceanian 0.64
Northeast_African 0.06
Sub-Saharan 0.00

[Leto]

Yes, I agree with that, because now I have proof.

Proof of what?

[Aspirin]

Guy from the south. I forgot about him. I have all four surnames of his grandparents.

Spoiler!

Population:

North_Atlantic 20.92 Pct
Baltic 28.56 Pct
West_Med 14.80 Pct
West_Asian 9.67 Pct
East_Med 22.16 Pct
Red_Sea 0.86 Pct
South_Asian 1.64 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.64 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.75 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.96
2 Romanian 6.65
3 Serbian 8.19
4 Moldavian 11.49
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.97
6 Croatian 14.04
7 Hungarian 14.84
8 Austrian 18.68
9 Tuscan 19.57
10 Central_Greek 19.7
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.81
12 Italian_Abruzzo 19.9
13 East_German 20.1
14 North_Italian 20.44
15 South_Polish 20.46
16 Ukrainian 20.72
17 East_Sicilian 20.83
18 Ashkenazi 20.96
19 West_Sicilian 21.12
20 Southwest_Russian 22.83

[Ion Basescul]

Yes, I agree with that, because now I have proof. Can't be Romanian from Romania though at this strength of the relationship. 83cM is so much that it's not even from the other side of the country, but very close by, like 50km or so.

And here's the proof:

The next kit from R. Moldova that I was looking at, QY8192067, was also matching the same Anglo at 3rd cousin level.
So I dug deeper, by looking him up with the email. There, I found another kit, which is probably a distant cousin of his that he asked to test to research this side of his family.

Surname Aldea

North_Atlantic 19.20 Pct
Baltic 26.97 Pct
West_Med 17.98 Pct
West_Asian 13.72 Pct
East_Med 17.17 Pct
Red_Sea 0.71 Pct
South_Asian 1.21 Pct
East_Asian 0.13 Pct
Siberian 2.11 Pct
Amerindian 0.16 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.65 Pct

Going by the distance that the guy is getting with the 2 Moldovan kits, (QY8192067 - 31% Baltic, 83cM and CZ7344575 - 33% Baltic, 72cM) they are all from the same country first of all and secondly their ancestors lived closely.
At least these 3 guys are ethnic Romanian/Moldovan.

So far we have the following situation.
Confirmed unmixed
ZW2326107 - 31%, close match with a certain Moraru who scores like Cahul and Stefan Voda samples, with a very non-Romanian but popular in R. Moldova forename (whom I emailed to see if he's actually from here)
QY8192067 - 31%
CZ7344575 - 33%

Russian
JA8090639

Ukrainian
JR6490623

Ukrainian mixed
GG5842270 - 36%, 3rd cousin Ukrainian, probably a halfie with a Moldovan
DN1116786 - 39%, Full Ukrainian with likely Roma grandparent

I've still got 2 more kits to look at:
CM2678489
JR2297171

[Aspirin]

Surname Aldea

https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=r...iewnume&id=687

[Pribislav]

Average K13 for Moldavians from Republic based on these 15 samples.

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28,82
2 North_Atlantic 23.90
3 West_Med 16,52
4 East_Med 14.90
5 West_Asian 10.09
6 Red_Sea 1,80
7 Siberian 1.47
8 Amerindian 0.68
9 South_Asian 0.53
10 East_Asian 0.57
11 Sub-Saharan 0.10
12 NE_African 0,14
13 Oceanian 0.41

That is significant more southern than Moldavian average on Gedmatch. How is this possible?

[Aspirin]

That is significant more southern than Moldavian average on Gedmatch. How is this possible?

Because in that list with unmixed Moldavians exist persons from south of the country (except two) who are very southern, if I will remove them, the results will be visible more northern.

[Ion Basescul]

CM2678489

For this guy, the closest match starts at 22cM, which is ok because not a lot of people from R. Moldova are on GEDmatch. At least this kind of confirms that he's not mixed with East Slavs or is from Romania.

JR2297171

The last guy is also mixed recently with Ukrainians, 63cM match.


Confirmed unmixed
ZW2326107 - 31%, close match with a certain Moraru who scores like Cahul and Stefan Voda samples, with a very non-Romanian but popular in R. Moldova forename (whom I emailed to see if he's actually from here)
QY8192067 - 31%
CZ7344575 - 33%
CM2678489 - 30%

Full Russian
JA8090639 - 46%, no close matches, but lots of Russian matches at average distance - 30cM

Full Ukrainian
JR6490623 - 45% , matches a Ukrainian at 83cM, 3rd cousin

Ukrainian mixed
GG5842270 - 36%, 3rd cousin Ukrainian, 74cM, probably a halfie with a Moldovan
DN1116786 - 39%, Full Ukrainian with likely Roma grandparent, closest match is a full Roma at 48cM, then Ukrainians
JR2297171 - 30% Mixed Ukrainian, 63cM Ukrainian match


I'll add all the samples to our list and those 4 samples will be put in the unmixed category.

[Ion Basescul]

That is significant more southern than Moldavian average on Gedmatch. How is this possible?

Only 4 out of 9 samples that were used to make the average on GEDmatch are full Moldovans.

[Pribislav]

Because in that list with unmixed Moldavians exist persons from south of the country (except two) who are very southern, if I will remove them, the results will be visible more northern.

Serbian woman from central Serbia with similar Baltic, Red_Sea, East_Asian, Amerinian, Oceanian and Northeast_African score as that average.

1 Baltic 28.3
2 North_Atlantic 26.61
3 West_Med 18.06
4 East_Med 16.92
5 West_Asian 6.23
6 Red_Sea 1.57
7 East_Asian 0.96
8 Amerindian 0.58
9 Oceanian 0.42
10 Northeast_African 0.35