Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Leto]

Full Russian
JA8090639 - 46%, no close matches, but lots of Russian matches at average distance - 30cM

Looks more like a Ukrainian to me but I don't mind xoxols being called Russians
Is he a Moldovan Russian?

[Ion Basescul]

Gagauz average

North_Atlantic 19.35
Baltic 23.14
West_Med 17.99
West_Asian 12.57
East_Med 21.48
Red_Sea 2.9
South_Asian 0.52
East_Asian 0.25
Siberian 0.69
Amerindian 0.40
Oceanian 0.64
Northeast_African 0.06
Sub-Saharan 0.00

Unfortunately, I don't have the Stefan Voda kits on GEDmatch yet, but they should score pretty closely to the Gagauz, with some exceptions.
Here's how they model on G25.

[Ion Basescul]

Looks more like a Ukrainian to me but I don't mind xoxols being called Russians
Is he a Moldovan Russian?

No idea, because all the kits that were provided didn't have names nor emails, but his close matches are Russian.

[Aspirin]

Serbian woman from central Serbia with similar Baltic, Red_Sea, East_Asian, Amerinian, Oceanian and Northeast_African score as that average.

1 Baltic 28.3
2 North_Atlantic 26.61
3 West_Med 18.06
4 East_Med 16.92
5 West_Asian 6.23
6 Red_Sea 1.57
7 East_Asian 0.96
8 Amerindian 0.58
9 Oceanian 0.42
10 Northeast_African 0.35

Do you understand what many people in the south have some visible Bulgarian/Gagauz ancestry? I know people from that region, and some of them have very mixed ancestry. And their southern results very well correlate with presence of these ethnicities in that area. If their ancestry is older, 3-4 generations or more, and they indentify as Moldavians, you cant remove them because of their mixed origins, they will pass as unmixed ones, many have Moldavian surnames, not foreign ones, like the guy Zamaneagra from the list who score high East Med. In that region, based on results, was formed a separate genetic cluster. If in the north were live many Ukrainians you will find people who score 36-38 Baltic, same scenario will see in the southern area, but with the opposite effect.

[Ion Basescul]

Do you understand what many people in the south have some visible Bulgarian/Gagauz ancestry? I know people from that region, and some of them have very mixed ancestry. And their southern results very well correlate with presence of these ethnicities in that area. If their ancestry is older, 3-4 generations or more, and they indentify as Moldavians, you cant remove them because of theit mixed origins, they will pass as unmixed ones, many have Moldavian surnames, not foreign ones, like the guy Zamaneagra from the list who score high East Med. In that region, based on results, was formed a separate genetic cluster. If in the north were live many Ukrainians you will find people who score 36-38 Baltic, same scenario will see in the southern area, but with the opposite effect.

This, who knows how many have mixed with Bugeac minorities in the past. For example, the Puls guy from Cahul that me and my mom are the closest to on MyHeritage has distant German roots. Puls itself is a German surname and we know that some Germans were settled in Transnistria and Bugeac.

And here's a guy from Chisinau, but with ancestry in Southern R. Moldova, with Gagauz, Bulgarian and Moldovan ancestry.

He scores only 2.9% Eastern Euro, so his Moldovan ancestry is probably very similar to Gagauz and Bulgarian, because I score 43.5% for example and my profile seems average for the Central region.

[Tommie]

of course, such long faces are really uncommon in Romanians. Romanians are short-faced (small eyes-to-mouth distance and high % of the face width from this distance).

Long faces aren't uncommon, probably in your area short-faced people are more common. Romanians are mesocephalic on average.

[Tommie]

How different are Romanians from Italians? Do they frequently pass as Italianos in Italy? I know mamaliga is basically the same as polenta
Румыны - мамалыжники.

Yes, Romanians frequently pass well as Italians. Most are indistinguishable from them if they speak fluently the language.

no, they almost never pass as Italians. but it's also the clothing style maybe that makes Romanians so obviously non-Western. you rarely get the chance to guess a Romanian by the face because you usually instantly already guess him by the clothes/style

It's not like Romanians dress like Russian gopniks, even most Russians don't dress like that.
Actually, from my observations Romanians have a better sense of style than our neighboring Hungarians, who mostly seem like they don't really care how they look like.

[Jana]

Actually, from my observations Romanians have a better sense of style than our neighboring Hungarians, who mostly seem like they don't really care how they look like.

Yes, they do, and I have to admit it's noticeable difference. They dress very tasteful and stylish, both young men and women.

[Ion Basescul]

If anyone's interested

[Aspirin]

Too bad Zmey is not here, his presence will be very useful, I don't understand why he was banned.