Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Pribislav]

Only 4 out of 9 samples that were used to make the average on GEDmatch are full Moldovans.

I understand.
Real Latin speaking Moldavians without recent Russian/Ukrainian admixture are Romanian like people on average, not Bosniak, Bosnian Serb and Croatian like as Gedmatch average say. Make sense that Moldavian are closer to Romanians than to people who are located hundreds of km from them and speak different language.

[Leto]

There's no need to visit. Probably half of the working age Transnistrians are every day either in Chisinau or Odessa. There are long queues every morning and afternoon on the Dniester, since they commute to Chisinau for work. Chisinau is like 50km away from Tiraspol.
The conflict is mostly political, as people haven't really been separated.

LOL. Then absolutely no reason for that breakaway joke republic to exist. It's not like Russian was banned or purged from the Rep of Moldova. Almost everyone still speaks it, even Aspirin who claims to be both rural and unmixed

[Ion Basescul]

I understand.
Real Latin speaking Moldavians without recent Russian/Ukrainian admixture are Romanian like people, not Bosniak, Bosnian Serb and Croatian like as Gedmatch average say. Make sense that Moldavian are closer to Romanians than to people who are located hundreds of km from them and speak different language.

Yes, but also there is overlap. My closest matches on G25 are Croatians, Bosnians, Slovenes and Hungarians. Same goes for my parents.

On K13, I get the following:

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	29.33
2	North_Atlantic	25.27
3	West_Med	15.21
4	East_Med	13.04
5	West_Asian	9.95
6	Siberian	2.85
7	East_Asian	1.83
8	Red_Sea	1.42
9	South_Asian	0.7
10	Oceanian	0.4

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Serbian	4.31
2	Moldavian	5.04
3	Romanian	7.02
4	Croatian	7.86
5	Hungarian	8.13
6	Bulgarian	9.24
7	Austrian	11.88
8	East_German	13.07
9	Ukrainian_Lviv	13.8
10	South_Polish	14.54
11	Ukrainian	15.09
12	West_German	17.6
13	Greek_Thessaly	17.77
14	Polish	18.25
15	Southwest_Russian	18.34
16	Ukrainian_Belgorod	18.59
17	South_Dutch	19.05
18	Tatar	19.21
19	French	19.66
20	North_Italian	20.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		83.1%	Serbian	+	16.9%	Tatar	@	1.87
2		88%	Serbian	+	12%	Chuvash	@	1.97
3		90.1%	Serbian	+	9.9%	Mari	@	2.25
4		79.3%	Romanian	+	20.7%	East_Finnish	@	2.33
5		76.6%	Romanian	+	23.4%	Kargopol_Russian	@	2.48
6		78.8%	Romanian	+	21.2%	Finnish	@	2.58
7		55.7%	Serbian	+	44.3%	Moldavian	@	2.65
8		87.2%	Serbian	+	12.8%	Erzya	@	2.66
9		61.2%	Ukrainian	+	38.8%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	2.71
10		73.3%	Bulgarian	+	26.7%	Finnish	@	2.73
11		60.5%	Moldavian	+	39.5%	Romanian	@	2.77
12		86.8%	Serbian	+	13.2%	Kargopol_Russian	@	2.82
13		83.8%	Moldavian	+	16.2%	Tuscan	@	2.83
14		67.8%	Romanian	+	32.2%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	2.83
15		84.9%	Moldavian	+	15.1%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	2.86
16		69.8%	Romanian	+	30.2%	Ukrainian	@	2.86
17		79.4%	Romanian	+	20.6%	Estonian	@	2.88
18		74.2%	Bulgarian	+	25.8%	East_Finnish	@	2.91
19		71.7%	Bulgarian	+	28.3%	Southwest_Finnish	@	2.91
20		51.7%	Tuscan	+	48.3%	Erzya	@	2.93

[Ion Basescul]

LOL. Then absolutely no reason for that breakaway joke republic to exist. It's not like Russian was banned or purged from the Rep of Moldova. Almost everyone still speaks it, even Aspirin who claims to be both rural and unmixed

You speak Russian, right?

https://moldova.europalibera.org/a/28825691.html

I recommend this book on how they treat their own people.

[Dušan]

new_Moldavian,23.90,28.82,16.52,10.09,14.90,1.80,0 .53,0.57,1.47,0.68,0.41,0.14,0.10

Still, I am closer to new_Moldavian than to Croatian.

[Aspirin]

I understand.
Real Latin speaking Moldavians without recent Russian/Ukrainian admixture are Romanian like people on average, not Bosniak, Bosnian Serb and Croatian like as Gedmatch average say. Make sense that Moldavian are closer to Romanians than to people who are located hundreds of km from them and speak different language.

The people who are close to Romanian average are these from the south who live close to Bulgarians and Gagauz colonists, and people who have origins from that area, northern the situation is different, many in fact are very close to that average, some are even more northern (Mold/Ukro mixes). But since you are Serb, and you skip my response, not surprised me.

[Pribislav]

new_Moldavian,23.90,28.82,16.52,10.09,14.90,1.80,0 .53,0.57,1.47,0.68,0.41,0.14,0.10

Still, I am closer to new_Moldavian than to Croatian.

Unrelated to the topic.

I wonder what is amount of kaykavians in Croatian average on Gedmatch when Krajina Serb woman (Đurić, your match) who have 44.11% North_European on K12b stay little more southern on K15 map than official Croatian average https://i.imgur.com/4U5kt90.png

So colled Croatian average must be 45% NE according to this, and in my opinion that is too much for average for Croatians as whole.

On Poreklo Croatian average NE on K12b is 41.75%, and on Eupedia stay 42.6%.

[Dušan]

New Moldavian and Serbian averages are basically overlapped.

new_Moldavian,23.90,28.82,16.52,10.09,14.90,1.80,0 .53,0.57,1.47,0.68,0.41,0.14,0.10
Serbian_new,25.1342857143,30.1357142857,16.5271428 571,8.7135714286,15.37,1.75,0.3692857143,0.2928571 429,0.8414285714,0.3471428571,0.3021428571,0.04357 14286,0.0978571429

[Jana]

This match of my mother is most likely Moldovan. It's unmixed East Romance speaker (Radu is his name), but with very weird and almost nonexistant surname.
It exists only on 3 locations in northern part of Romanian Moldova.

https://www.hartanumeromanesti.eu/en...hichi&s=Search

1 Baltic 31.36
2 North_Atlantic 22.58
3 East_Med 16.01
4 West_Med 14.37
5 West_Asian 10.9
6 Red_Sea 2.56
7 Siberian 1.23
8 Amerindian 0.53
9 Northeast_African 0.27
10 Oceanian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

1 Serbian 5.73
2 Moldavian 5.78
3 Romanian 7.01
4 Bulgarian 8.19
5 Croatian 8.64
6 Hungarian 10.5
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.32
8 Austrian 14.82
9 South_Polish 15.39
10 Ukrainian 15.6
11 East_German 15.91
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.95
13 Southwest_Russian 17.98
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.16
15 Polish 18.73
16 Russian_Smolensk 20.22
17 Tatar 20.59
18 Estonian_Polish 20.74
19 West_German 20.92
20 Belorussian 21.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 56.9% Southwest_Russian + 43.1% Central_Greek @ 1.08
2 61.1% Southwest_Russian + 38.9% South_Italian @ 1.35
3 60.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.2% South_Italian @ 1.45
4 69% Bulgarian + 31% Southwest_Russian @ 1.48
5 51.7% Greek_Thessaly + 48.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.5
6 52.1% Central_Greek + 47.9% Lithuanian @ 1.5
7 56.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.4% Central_Greek @ 1.53
8 69.2% Bulgarian + 30.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.54
9 54% Russian_Smolensk + 46% Central_Greek @ 1.6
10 70.9% Ukrainian + 29.1% Cyprian @ 1.68
11 58.1% Southwest_Russian + 41.9% East_Sicilian @ 1.7
12 71.2% South_Polish + 28.8% Cyprian @ 1.71
13 57.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.1% East_Sicilian @ 1.73
14 51.5% Greek_Thessaly + 48.5% Southwest_Russian @ 1.76
15 53.3% Estonian_Polish + 46.7% Central_Greek @ 1.79
16 67% Polish + 33% Cyprian @ 1.85
17 71.6% Bulgarian + 28.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.88
18 76.4% Bulgarian + 23.6% Lithuanian @ 1.93
19 74.2% Bulgarian + 25.8% Erzya @ 1.96
20 52.7% Belorussian + 47.3% Central_Greek @ 1.97

These results look rather Moldovan than Wallachian or Transylvanian to me. Your opinion?

[Dušan]

Unrelated to the topic.

I wonder what is amount of kaykavians in Croatian average on Gedmatch when Krajina Serb woman (Đurić, your match) who have 44.11% North_European on K12b stay little more southern on K15 map than official Croatian average https://i.imgur.com/4U5kt90.png

So colled Croatian average must be 45% NE according to this, and in my opinion that is too much for average for Croatians as whole.

On Poreklo Croatian average NE on K12b is 41.75%, and on Eupedia stay 42.6%.

I don't know. Kajkavians are cca 30% of Croats and their genetic is considerably more northern and northwestern.