Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Ion Basescul]

K13 Coordinates



Romania_Moldavia_average,23.92,27.62,16.56,9.91,16 .68,1.51,0.58,0.43,1.36,0.63,0.46,0.16,0.16
Romania_Moldavia_North,23.82,28.53,15.49,10.61,16. 38,1.41,0.68,0.40,1.25,0.60,0.40,0.22,0.21
Romania_Moldavia_South,24.02,26.76,17.58,9.25,16.9 7,1.60,0.48,0.46,1.47,0.65,0.52,0.10,0.12


Moldova_average,22.51,27.80,16.89,10.65,16.33,2.30 ,0.44,0.62,1.19,0.54,0.42,0.10,0.20
Moldova_North,25.89,33.33,14.92,8.89,11.43,1.48,0. 65,0.56,1.47,0.35,0.61,0.17,0.26
Moldova_Centre,21.89,29.51,16.06,10.47,16.10,1.90, 0.53,0.83,1.14,0.81,0.48,0.08,0.20
Moldova_South,21.51,24.20,18.33,11.54,18.60,2.94,0 .29,0.49,1.11,0.42,0.29,0.10,0.18

Moldova_Romanian/Moldovan+Ukrainian_Mixes,24.50,36.97,13.80,8.11,11 .00,1.03,1.07,0.57,1.66,0.66,0.26,0.12,0.25

[Ion Basescul]

Exist this study about frequency of haplogroups in today Republic compared to Romania (Moldova region). And from southern parts the samples were taken from the same region, village Carahasani, neighboring with Caplani.

In that village exist just one haplogroup who seems to be of Turanic origin, N-P43. Theoretically, similar situation need to be in Caplani too. In the north, in Sofia, one individual have haplogroup Q.

Spoiler!

J1 and J2 should also not be counted out, especially since they didn't bother to look properly downstream.

[Ion Basescul]

My mom, modelled with:

Moldova_North,25.89,33.33,14.92,8.89,11.43,1.48,0. 65,0.56,1.47,0.35,0.61,0.17,0.26
Moldova_South,21.51,24.20,18.33,11.54,18.60,2.94,0 .29,0.49,1.11,0.42,0.29,0.10,0.18


Romani,12.8,11.93,12.72,16.85,15.39,2.76,23.48,1.7 5,0.64,0.35,0.84,0.35,0.13


Russian:Kargopol_Russian,24.92,48.36,7.52,5.54,1.5 0,0.04,2.49,0.23,6.67,1.70,0.23,0.53,0.26
Russian:Russian_Smolensk,28.16,48.47,8.74,5.82,3.8 3,1.69,1.38,0.17,0.85,0.43,0.38,0.06,0.01
Russian:RU_Pinega,24.715,51.9425,5.045,2.815,0.392 5,0.58,1.58,0.2425,9.9575,1.9575,0.265,0.305,0.225


Ukrainian:average,27.77,43.57,12.05,6.12,5.68,0.16 ,1.09,0.91,1.41,0.78,0.28,0.11,0.07
Ukrainian:Ukrainian_Belgorod,25.78,47.29,7.85,8.78 ,5.54,0.58,1.10,0.71,1.02,0.59,0.25,0.16,0.34
Ukrainian:Ukrainian_Lviv,27.35,41.85,11.96,7.10,5. 29,1.79,1.20,0.39,1.36,0.82,0.75,0.00,0.13


Tatar:average,18.88,34.62,5.85,11.66,3.85,0.90,2.6 8,3.12,15.56,2.00,0.28,0.13,0.46
Tatar:Turk_Dobruja-Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20, 20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33
Tatar:Crimean_Tatar,13.17,20.04,7.55,16.36,8.88,1. 83,3.23,10.25,16.40,1.28,0.47,0.27,0.21
Tatar:Nogay,9.25,13.23,6.43,31.31,10.06,0.46,2.77, 9.16,15.03,1.24,0.51,0.34,0.21


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 5.5468% / 5.54679577 | ADC: 0.25x
52.4 Moldova_South
47.6 Ukrainian

Her ancestry is half Moldovan/Romanian from the South and half Ukrainian from the North.

[Ion Basescul]

My mom, modelled with:

Moldova_North,25.89,33.33,14.92,8.89,11.43,1.48,0. 65,0.56,1.47,0.35,0.61,0.17,0.26
Moldova_South,21.51,24.20,18.33,11.54,18.60,2.94,0 .29,0.49,1.11,0.42,0.29,0.10,0.18


Romani,12.8,11.93,12.72,16.85,15.39,2.76,23.48,1.7 5,0.64,0.35,0.84,0.35,0.13


Russian:Kargopol_Russian,24.92,48.36,7.52,5.54,1.5 0,0.04,2.49,0.23,6.67,1.70,0.23,0.53,0.26
Russian:Russian_Smolensk,28.16,48.47,8.74,5.82,3.8 3,1.69,1.38,0.17,0.85,0.43,0.38,0.06,0.01
Russian:RU_Pinega,24.715,51.9425,5.045,2.815,0.392 5,0.58,1.58,0.2425,9.9575,1.9575,0.265,0.305,0.225


Ukrainian:average,27.77,43.57,12.05,6.12,5.68,0.16 ,1.09,0.91,1.41,0.78,0.28,0.11,0.07
Ukrainian:Ukrainian_Belgorod,25.78,47.29,7.85,8.78 ,5.54,0.58,1.10,0.71,1.02,0.59,0.25,0.16,0.34
Ukrainian:Ukrainian_Lviv,27.35,41.85,11.96,7.10,5. 29,1.79,1.20,0.39,1.36,0.82,0.75,0.00,0.13


Tatar:average,18.88,34.62,5.85,11.66,3.85,0.90,2.6 8,3.12,15.56,2.00,0.28,0.13,0.46
Tatar:Turk_Dobruja-Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20, 20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33
Tatar:Crimean_Tatar,13.17,20.04,7.55,16.36,8.88,1. 83,3.23,10.25,16.40,1.28,0.47,0.27,0.21
Tatar:Nogay,9.25,13.23,6.43,31.31,10.06,0.46,2.77, 9.16,15.03,1.24,0.51,0.34,0.21


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 5.5468% / 5.54679577 | ADC: 0.25x
52.4 Moldova_South
47.6 Ukrainian

Her ancestry is half Moldovan/Romanian from the South and half Ukrainian from the North.

My dad, modelled with the same +
Moldova_Centre,21.89,29.51,16.06,10.47,16.10,1.90, 0.53,0.83,1.14,0.81,0.48,0.08,0.20

Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 2.5906% / 2.59062940 | ADC: 0.25x
70.0 Moldova_North
19.6 Moldova_Centre
4.6 Ukrainian
4.2 Tatar
1.6 Romani

His ancestry is from the peripheral region between Centre and North (the 2 blue markers in the middle from my avatar).

[Ion Basescul]

My dad, modelled with the same +
Moldova_Centre,21.89,29.51,16.06,10.47,16.10,1.90, 0.53,0.83,1.14,0.81,0.48,0.08,0.20

Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 2.5906% / 2.59062940 | ADC: 0.25x
70.0 Moldova_North
19.6 Moldova_Centre
4.6 Ukrainian
4.2 Tatar
1.6 Romani

His ancestry is from the peripheral region between Centre and North (the 2 blue markers in the middle from my avatar).

And finally me, with the same model

Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 1.9007% / 1.90068260 | ADC: 0.25x
69.4 Moldova_North
24.0 Moldova_South
6.6 Tatar

My ancestry from the South is represented accurately, there is some Tatar from somewhere and the Ukrainian 1/4 is absorbed by Moldova_North.

If I remove Moldova_North, then it gets even closer to my paper trail.

Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 3.3115% / 3.31152834 | ADC: 0.25x
38.4 Moldova_Centre
30.6 Moldova_South
25.8 Ukrainian
5.2 Tatar


With Tatar removed

Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 3.7319% / 3.73191902 | ADC: 0.25x
41.4 Moldova_Centre
33.0 Moldova_South
25.6 Ukrainian

[Aspirin]

J1 and J2 should also not be counted out, especially since they didn't bother to look properly downstream.

J1 and J2 seems to be just simple Balkan markers.

People from Carahasani don't have any cheburek traits, is interesting since they live in a former Tatar territory.

Spoiler!

Edit.

[Leto]

People from Carahasani don't have any cheburek traits, is interesting since they live in a former Tatar territory.

Do you mean Mongoloid features? Or swarthyness?
Black-assed/chernozhopy doesn't mean Mongoloid in Russian. I don't know if you use the word in Romanian.

[Aspirin]

Do you mean Mongoloid features? Or swarthyness?
Black-assed/chernozhopy doesn't mean Mongoloid in Russian. I don't know if you use the word in Romanian.

Yes, Mongoloid.

[Ion Basescul]

I found a new kit through this one. Close distance and he is most likely from R. Moldova. However, I can't trace the guy exactly, but according to the forename+surname and Facebook, all 4 potential candidates are from R. Moldova.
One was born in Floresti and the rest in Chisinau (2 of them live abroad).
I emailed the guy just in case. Hopefully he'll answer.

North_Atlantic 22.13 Pct
Baltic 23.89 Pct
West_Med 18.68 Pct
West_Asian 16.35 Pct
East_Med 12.57 Pct
Red_Sea 1.83 Pct
South_Asian 1.01 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 2.83 Pct
Amerindian 0.58 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.13 Pct

This person is from Romania, just had it confirmed.

[Dušan]

K13 Coordinates



Romania_Moldavia_average,23.92,27.62,16.56,9.91,16 .68,1.51,0.58,0.43,1.36,0.63,0.46,0.16,0.16
Romania_Moldavia_North,23.82,28.53,15.49,10.61,16. 38,1.41,0.68,0.40,1.25,0.60,0.40,0.22,0.21
Romania_Moldavia_South,24.02,26.76,17.58,9.25,16.9 7,1.60,0.48,0.46,1.47,0.65,0.52,0.10,0.12


Moldova_average,22.51,27.80,16.89,10.65,16.33,2.30 ,0.44,0.62,1.19,0.54,0.42,0.10,0.20
Moldova_North,25.89,33.33,14.92,8.89,11.43,1.48,0. 65,0.56,1.47,0.35,0.61,0.17,0.26
Moldova_Centre,21.89,29.51,16.06,10.47,16.10,1.90, 0.53,0.83,1.14,0.81,0.48,0.08,0.20
Moldova_South,21.51,24.20,18.33,11.54,18.60,2.94,0 .29,0.49,1.11,0.42,0.29,0.10,0.18

Moldova_Romanian/Moldovan+Ukrainian_Mixes,24.50,36.97,13.80,8.11,11 .00,1.03,1.07,0.57,1.66,0.66,0.26,0.12,0.25