Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Dušan]

It seems to translate, because I score 43.5% EEuro and 29% Baltic. Why should I believe that those Serbs with 10-20% EEuro should score 30% on average?
Unless someone can show me that the majority of Serbs score between 40-50% East Euro on 23andme, then I would obviously not have any counterarguments.

I live in Serbia and I am almost 34% Baltic.
And my phenotype is like average Serb.



Still dont believe that average Baltic for Serbs is 30%?

[vbnetkhio]

10-20% EEuro should score 30% on average?

they do. 23andme exagurates your main admixture and decreases your minor ones.
it's because of this:
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...cestry-results

this is the same person on 23andme and k13:

Southern European
81.0%
Eastern European
15.1%
Northwestern European
0.4%
Broadly European
3.3%

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.63
2 North_Atlantic 25.09
3 East_Med 16.52
4 West_Med 16.48
5 West_Asian 9.3
6 South_Asian 2.65
7 Red_Sea 1.05
8 Oceanian 0.2
9 Northeast_African 0.08
10 East_Asian 0.01

[Jana]

Stop trolling Moldavians ustaša woman! CS posted his result on South Slavic & neighbours as Serbian result, and I got his kit as Serb kit. He is not different than Lika Serb and East Bosnia Serbian woman with 35% Baltic posted by you.

I posted it as well, but I tought he is a Croat. Unlike you, Commonsense is a decent poster and I trust everything he posts.

[Ion Basescul]

I live in Serbia and I am almost 34% Baltic.
And my phenotype is like average Serb.



Still dont believe that average Baltic for Serbs is 30%?

Nope, I actually googled and Krajina sits at the border with Croatia and also very close to the Hungarian admixed Vojvodina. We also have mixed Moldovans with 40% Baltic and they are not average. The same can be said about those with 22%.

[Dušan]

Nope, I actually googled and Krajina sits at the border with Croatia and also very close to the Hungarian admixed Vojvodina. We also have mixed Moldovans with 40% Baltic and they are not average. The same can be said about those with 22%.

So? We didn't mixed with them, we have lived in our homogeneous villages, separated from them. There was always deep despise and hate between Croats and Serbs for generations.
I don't have hardly any Croatian matches in Gedmatch. In fact, I have even few Albanians, but Croats less than that.

[Ion Basescul]

So? We didn't mixed with them, we have lived in our homogeneous villages, separated from them. There was always deep despise and hate between Croats and Serbs for generations.
I don't have hardly any Croatian matches in Gedmatch. In fact, I have even few Albanians, but Croats less than that.

I don't know. I don't question your ethnic determination, but it's interesting because I cluster with Croats, Bosnians and some Slovenes everywhere from 23andme to MyHeritage, Davidski's Global 25 sheet, and old Eurogenes samples.
I'm usually quite far from Serbs, who cluster with non-Moldavian Romanians, but with amateurishly collected samples, it seems that Serbs have suddenly become Croatian-like. Kind of makes one wonder what's happening.

[vbnetkhio]

I don't know. I don't question your ethnic determination, but it's interesting because I cluster with Croats, Bosnians and some Slovenes everywhere from 23andme to MyHeritage, Davidski's Global 25 sheet, and old Eurogenes samples.
I'm usually quite far from Serbs, who cluster with non-Moldavian Romanians, but with amateurishly collected samples, it seems that Serbs have suddenly become Croatian-like. Kind of makes one wonder what's happening.

the Serbian in Eurogenes k13 and k15 was probably just one person's result, and not an average. global 25 also has only 5 Serbs who aren't very representative.

what do you get in 23andme and my heritage?

[Dušan]

I don't know. I don't question your ethnic determination, but it's interesting because I cluster with Croats, Bosnians and some Slovenes everywhere from 23andme to MyHeritage, Davidski's Global 25 sheet, and old Eurogenes samples.
I'm usually quite far from Serbs, who cluster with non-Moldavian Romanians, but with amateurishly collected samples, it seems that Serbs have suddenly become Croatian-like. Kind of makes one wonder what's happening.

There is nothing "Croatian-like" in Serbian results.

You dont need to believe what is Serbian average, I don't care.
I know that I am with my results closer to Serbian than to Croatian population.

[Jana]

^^^^Ion, I think uncomfortable truth is dinaric Slavs are very similar people, apart from Montenegrins who have stronger Albanian influence observable in their YDNA and autosomal.
I really want no similarity with Serbs, but it's quite obvious from tons of shared surnames and matching those aren't pretty different.

I would say NW Croats and SE Serbs form clusters on their own, former being west-slavic like and later being east balkan like, but others are quite similar including Bosniaks who descend from both.

Here is South Croat average I composed out of academic Split Croats, Morlach and Slavic cluster.

South_Croat_average,25.97,31.99,16.29,7.83,13.15,1 .91,0.47,0.26,0.66,0.58,0.46,0.12,0.19

Distance to: South_Croat_average

0.89679290 Serbian_Bosnia
0.92903175 Croat_Split
2.46288909 Bosnian
2.56700214 Croatian_new
2.92249893 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
3.10478663 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
3.11250402 Croat_Bosnia
3.17259221 Serbian_new
3.26658843 Serb_Croatia
3.91149588 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster

[Jana]

the Serbian in Eurogenes k13 and k15 was probably just one person's result, and not an average. global 25 also has only 5 Serbs who aren't very representative.

what do you get in 23andme and my heritage?

I wonder about Serb samples used in academic papers, not speaking about gedmatch, those are really very different from Croats and even Bosniaks and much more Balkan.
examples

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4141785/
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0135820