Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[Leto]

He looks Gypsy more or less yes, but there are ethnic Serbs who look less white than Mortimer.
This guy is minister in Serbian government and extreme nationalist.

[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Aleksandar_Vulin-mc.rs.jpg

Is that super dark? To me not so much. Only his eyes appear kinda Jewish to me.

[CommonSense]

Is that super dark? To me not so much. Only his eyes appear kinda Jewish to me.

He doesn't look Gypsy. Even Vukodav who lives in North Montenegro where Serbs don't live besides Gypsies said he doesn't see any resemblence between him and Mortimer or any other mixed person.

[Dušan]

I doubt you are with updated averages. But we know, you won't run them out of fear

That new Croatian what you made?

Ok...





You are very stupid.

Deal with it.

[Ion Basescul]

did you read that Eupedia post about 23andme's algorithm?

I have, but Kurd has an infamy for forging every kind of possible data just to be able to justify his theories.
Just ask Davidski's (the Eurogenes guy) opinion on him and his works.

If I were to see an average of even 40% Baltic with academic Serb samples, then I wouldn't have even started this debate in the first place.
I can fully accept that Dusan is a live Serb that I know with 33%. But how can I know that the rest of the Serbs that are used for the 30% average come in proportionate numbers from all over the country, as opposed to being solely from the North, or solely from the South, etc.?

Did you guys even ask yourselves this?
You can't just gather 50 samples from one place, assume that every Serb in Serbia is similar to people from that place and call it a day.

I don't want to brag, but ideally you should do something like I did. Split your country in 3 halves by latitude (North, Centre, South) and make 3 averages.
Then calculate the average out of these 3 coordinates or weigh them at least appropriately, if for example more Serbs live in the North than South.

[Jana]

^^^^

Yes, I am, I admit

[Leto]

@IB, stick to Moldovan results please. There is already a lot of stuff said about Serbs and Croats and not nearly as much about Moldovans.

[Daos777]

It's not inflated, it's representative for Croats of Zagreb who were sampled. K13 updated has Czech and Slovak reference, even Czech_Moravian was made by Andre so you won't get Croatian, don't worry

Where can I find updated K13?


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[Jana]

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

Add these averages to source as well

Czech_Moravian,32.84,37.68,11.13,3.61,10.17,0,0.90 ,0,0.35,0.65,1.01,1.66,0
Slovak_West,30.27,38.62,13.26,3.73,7.47,1.71,1.99, 0,1.48,0.79,0.62,0.07,0
Russian_West_Siberia,25.02,46.68,8.63,6.69,2.01,1. 14,1.54,1.09,5.02,1.07,1.01,0,0.1
Vlach_Timok,25.17,26.7,18.87,6.81,17.69,1.75,0.2,0 .54,0.21,0.56,1.71,0,0.33
Romania_Moldavia_average,23.92,27.62,16.56,9.91,16 .68,1.51,0.58,0.43,1.36,0.63,0.46,0.16,0.16
Romania_Moldavia_North,23.82,28.53,15.49,10.61,16. 38,1.41,0.68,0.40,1.25,0.60,0.40,0.22,0.21
Romania_Moldavia_South,24.02,26.76,17.58,9.25,16.9 7,1.60,0.48,0.46,1.47,0.65,0.52,0.10,0.12
Moldova_average,22.51,27.80,16.89,10.65,16.33,2.30 ,0.44,0.62,1.19,0.54,0.42,0.10,0.20
Moldova_North,25.89,33.33,14.92,8.89,11.43,1.48,0. 65,0.56,1.47,0.35,0.61,0.17,0.26
Moldova_Centre,21.89,29.51,16.06,10.47,16.10,1.90, 0.53,0.83,1.14,0.81,0.48,0.08,0.20
Moldova_South,21.51,24.20,18.33,11.54,18.60,2.94,0 .29,0.49,1.11,0.42,0.29,0.10,0.18
Moldova_Romanian/Moldovan+Ukrainian_Mixes,24.50,36.97,13.80,8.11,11 .00,1.03,1.07,0.57,1.66,0.66,0.26,0.12,0.25
Serbian_Belgrade_academic,24.42,28.12,17.06,9.06,1 7.09,1.48,0.45,0.36,0.73,0.56,0.54,0.1,0.04
Croatian_new,27.49,33.14,15.16,7.79,14.31,1.74,0.9 7,0.30,0.51,0.67,0.33,0.09,0.13
South_Croat_average,25.97,31.99,16.29,7.83,13.15,1 .91,0.47,0.26,0.66,0.58,0.46,0.12,0.19

than post your data into target, and than click to distance.

[Ion Basescul]

@IB, stick to Moldovan results please. There is already a lot of stuff said about Serbs and Croats and not nearly as much about Moldovans.

Yeah, but I didn't participate in those discussions.
Nobody has forgot about this thread. I'm just a bit lazy to research today and as a result have a lot of time to chat

[Jana]

Distance to: Moldova_average

Spoiler!

1.70108789 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
1.72745478 Romanian_Average
1.87699227 Romania_Moldavia_average
2.09148273 Moldova_Centre
2.26567871 Romania_Moldavia_North
2.61371383 Romania_Moldavia_South
2.80663500 Serbian_Belgrade_academic
3.19970311 Bulgarian_Sofia
3.69460417 Romanian_Transylvania
3.75818976 Montenegrin
4.00058746 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.03681805 Bosniak_Sandzak
4.15356473 Serb_Croatia
4.18015275 Macedonian
4.21262201 Serbian_new
4.21480723 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
4.25997653 Romanian_Oltenia
4.73979957 Moldova_South
4.74774683 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
5.35325135 Macedonian_Northwest
5.52326896 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
5.64087759 Vlach_Timok
5.69025483 Bulgarian
5.69641993 Turk_N-Macedonia
5.86026450 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina

Distance to: Moldova_North

Spoiler!

2.13447886 Moldavian
2.96767586 South_Croat_average
3.12213068 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
3.14682380 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
3.15672100 Serbian_Bosnia
3.37722242 Croat_Bosnia
3.39799941 Croat_Split
3.46428867 Bosnian
3.61809342 Bosniak_Tuzla
3.67714563 Croatian_new
4.02769165 Croat_Zagreb
4.16833300 Romanian_Botosani
4.22678365 Moldova_Romanian/Moldovan+Ukrainian_Mixes
4.75384055 Szekely
4.81691058 Slovenian
4.87941595 HungarianTA
5.12046873 Csango_Gymes
5.36417748 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
5.44678135 Serbian_new
5.55288213 Serb_Croatia
6.00307421 Hungarian_New
6.97602322 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
7.43653817 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.53724751 Moldova_Centre
7.92801971 Slovak

Distance to: Moldova_Centre

Spoiler!

2.09148273 Moldova_average
2.37444730 Romania_Moldavia_North
2.87311677 Romanian_Average
2.99946662 Romania_Moldavia_average
3.05646855 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
3.60070826 Serbian_Belgrade_academic
3.92341688 Bulgarian_Sofia
3.92895641 Serbian_new
4.00918944 Serb_Croatia
4.02873429 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
4.12642703 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.69429441 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.82419416 Bosnian
4.95975806 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
5.22387787 Romanian_Botosani
5.36156694 Romanian_Transylvania
5.58303466 Montenegrin
5.88396658 Macedonian
5.94286126 Bosniak_Sandzak
5.97768350 Turk_N-Macedonia
6.11987745 Romanian_Oltenia
6.25586125 South_Croat_average
6.29370618 Serbian_Bosnia
6.42719223 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
6.50638148 Moldova_South

Distance to: Moldova_South

Spoiler!

1.45972600 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
1.74045971 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
2.05282732 Bulgarian
2.38226783 Macedonian_Northwest
2.74189036 Macedonian
2.82906345 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
3.19228758 Pomak_Nevrokopi
3.32804748 Romanian_Oltenia
4.04487330 Bulgarian_Central
4.10392495 Bosniak_Sandzak
4.24418426 Macedonian_Central
4.40289464 North_Macedonian
4.40919494 Bulgarian_Sofia
4.59486670 Macedonian_North
4.63815130 Montenegrin
4.73979957 Moldova_average
4.74313188 Romanian_Muntenia
4.77941419 Romanian_Transylvania
4.83619685 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.89860184 Bulgarian_Serres
5.13846281 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
5.20226874 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
5.24113537 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
5.32456571 Bulgarian_Pazardzhik
5.38136600 Macedonian_East

Distance to: Moldova_Romanian/Moldovan+Ukrainian_Mixes

Spoiler!

3.27042811 Bosniak_Tuzla
3.62706493 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
3.63384094 Croat_Zagreb
4.08439714 Moldavian
4.22678365 Moldova_North
5.26832991 Romanian_Botosani
6.20055643 Croatian_new
6.33583459 South_Croat_average
6.34325437 Bosnian
6.46584005 Serbian_Bosnia
6.50229190 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
6.51058609 Croat_Bosnia
6.70842959 Slovenian
6.97881795 Croat_Split
7.38051777 Slovak
7.91394971 HungarianTA
8.28140689 Csango_Gymes
8.35642866 Slovak_West
8.36409589 Ukrainian_Lviv
8.44511101 Szekely
8.64366820 Hungarian_New
8.71167025 Serbian_new
8.75024000 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
8.81249113 Serb_Croatia
9.21028773 Kaykavian_Croatian