Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

[WeirdLookingFellow]

are you talking to me?
when did I say Western Moldova was Russified?? put the actual quote.

Thread was made by Bosniensis and was purged, you stated Oghial is a russian loanword due to russification - you didn't realize it was used by several Moldavian authors and is a regional word in western Moldova as well. Nurzat can attest, since you replied to his list of Moldavian regional words.

[ixulescu]

Thread was made by Bosniensis and was purged, you stated Oghial is a russian loanword due to russification - you didn't realize it was used by several Moldavian authors and is a regional word in western Moldova as well. Nurzat can attest, since you replied to his list of Moldavian regional words.

No, I didn't.

I said oghial is a regionalism with a small spread, in places with many East Slavic speakers (which in Western part of Moldova are only a few), because it is not known by many Moldovans.

This has nothing to do with Russification. Russification is a deliberate political process. The use of words like oghial has nothing to do with it.

Stop putting words in my mouth. You and Nurzat do this all the time. Read properly what I say, not what you think I say.

[Ion Basescul]

Surname Balan
Could be either from Moldavia or R. Moldova, as I wasn't able to confirm the location. I sent an email, so hopefully they will confirm.

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	28.72
2	North_Atlantic	25.37
3	West_Med	15.23
4	East_Med	13.75
5	West_Asian	10.56
6	Red_Sea	1.85
7	South_Asian	1.45
8	Siberian	1.38
9	Oceanian	0.74
10	Amerindian	0.7
11	Sub-Saharan	0.26

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Serbian	3.27
2	Moldavian	5.29
3	Romanian	5.75
4	Croatian	8.14
5	Bulgarian	8.16
6	Hungarian	8.22
7	Austrian	11.85
8	East_German	13.2
9	Ukrainian_Lviv	14.43
10	South_Polish	15.19
11	Ukrainian	15.86
12	Greek_Thessaly	16.71
13	West_German	17.34
14	Polish	18.81
15	South_Dutch	18.91
16	Southwest_Russian	19.03
17	Ukrainian_Belgorod	19.21
18	French	19.27
19	North_Italian	19.5
20	Tatar	20.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		72%	Romanian	+	28%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	1.43
2		61%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	39%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	1.44
3		52.2%	Moldavian	+	47.8%	Romanian	@	1.44
4		81.6%	Moldavian	+	18.4%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	1.56
5		58.8%	Ukrainian	+	41.2%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	1.66
6		80.5%	Romanian	+	19.5%	Kargopol_Russian	@	1.71
7		82.4%	Romanian	+	17.6%	Estonian	@	1.72
8		59.2%	Romanian	+	40.8%	Croatian	@	1.75
9		77.4%	Romanian	+	22.6%	Polish	@	1.77
10		73.4%	Romanian	+	26.6%	South_Polish	@	1.79
11		74.2%	Romanian	+	25.8%	Ukrainian	@	1.79
12		80.7%	Moldavian	+	19.3%	Tuscan	@	1.81
13		64.6%	Serbian	+	35.4%	Moldavian	@	1.81
14		79.2%	Romanian	+	20.8%	Russian_Smolensk	@	1.81
15		82.9%	Romanian	+	17.1%	East_Finnish	@	1.86
16		73.9%	Croatian	+	26.1%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	1.88
17		82.3%	Romanian	+	17.7%	Finnish	@	1.9
18		83%	Moldavian	+	17%	West_Sicilian	@	1.92
19		83%	Romanian	+	17%	Lithuanian	@	1.92
20		79.8%	Romanian	+	20.2%	Estonian_Polish	@	1.98

[Ion Basescul]

From Botosani

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	26.54
2	North_Atlantic	24.93
3	West_Med	16.4
4	East_Med	15.34
5	West_Asian	12.19
6	Red_Sea	1.75
7	Siberian	1.24
8	East_Asian	0.9
9	Oceanian	0.49
10	Amerindian	0.2
11	South_Asian	0.02

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Romanian	3.34
2	Serbian	3.36
3	Bulgarian	5.67
4	Moldavian	8.04
5	Hungarian	10.59
6	Croatian	10.95
7	Austrian	13.51
8	Greek_Thessaly	14.25
9	East_German	15.27
10	Ukrainian_Lviv	17.3
11	North_Italian	17.6
12	West_German	17.97
13	South_Polish	17.98
14	Tuscan	18.46
15	Ukrainian	18.65
16	French	19.16
17	South_Dutch	19.54
18	Italian_Abruzzo	19.8
19	Central_Greek	20.86
20	Portuguese	21.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		92.3%	Serbian	+	7.7%	Balkar	@	1.4
2		92.1%	Serbian	+	7.9%	Kabardin	@	1.47
3		92.8%	Serbian	+	7.2%	North_Ossetian	@	1.51
4		93%	Serbian	+	7%	Ossetian	@	1.57
5		92.7%	Serbian	+	7.3%	Adygei	@	1.58
6		94.1%	Serbian	+	5.9%	Abhkasian	@	1.61
7		93.8%	Serbian	+	6.2%	Georgian	@	1.68
8		92.1%	Serbian	+	7.9%	Kumyk	@	1.7
9		92.6%	Serbian	+	7.4%	Chechen	@	1.78
10		73.5%	Romanian	+	26.5%	Moldavian	@	1.79
11		71.6%	Moldavian	+	28.4%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	1.86
12		86.3%	Romanian	+	13.7%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	1.92
13		93%	Serbian	+	7%	Lezgin	@	1.96
14		92%	Serbian	+	8%	Nogay	@	1.98
15		89%	Romanian	+	11%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	1.98
16		86.9%	Romanian	+	13.1%	South_Polish	@	2
17		87.4%	Romanian	+	12.6%	Ukrainian	@	2.01
18		80.2%	Romanian	+	19.8%	Croatian	@	2.02
19		51.5%	Ukrainian	+	48.5%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	2.04
20		90.6%	Romanian	+	9.4%	Kargopol_Russian	@	2.05

[Aspirin]

From Botosani

Give me his kit number.

[Aspirin]

Surname Balan
Could be either from Moldavia or R. Moldova, as I wasn't able to confirm the location. I sent an email, so hopefully they will confirm.

Kit number please.

[Nurzat]

No, I didn't.

I said oghial is a regionalism with a small spread, in places with many East Slavic speakers (which in Western part of Moldova are only a few), because it is not known by many Moldovans.

This has nothing to do with Russification. Russification is a deliberate political process. The use of words like oghial has nothing to do with it.

most Moldovan-speaking county is Vaslui, this is where all these words are from, Vaslui is far away from any Slavic settlers place like Suceava or Maramures or even Botosani. the hundreds of local words of Old Slavic origin are in no way coming from Russians or Ukrainians, I bet they were inherited from our Early Slavic ancestors that Vlachs found in the region when they arrived. those words have been in use one thousand years ago as well, I bet. while Romanians in Suceava live next to Slavs and they don't use most words one can quote from Vaslui. so your theory has no ground. the Slavic Moldovan regional words are heritage from that side of our ancestry that is Early Slavic

[ixulescu]

most Moldovan-speaking county is Vaslui, this is where all these words are from, Vaslui is far away from any Slavic settlers place like Suceava or Maramures or even Botosani. the hundreds of local words of Old Slavic origin are in no way coming from Russians or Ukrainians, I bet they were inherited from our Early Slavic ancestors that Vlachs found in the region when they arrived. those words have been in use one thousand years ago as well, I bet. while Romanians in Suceava live next to Slavs and they don't use most words one can quote from Vaslui. so your theory has no ground. the Slavic Moldovan regional words are heritage from that side of our ancestry that is Early Slavic

The point was that ogheal is a regionalism of limited spread. My mom is 100% Moldovan and never heard of ogheal. You're extending your own experiences to everyone else. That doesn't work.

[Nurzat]

The point was that ogheal is a regionalism of limited spread. My mom is 100% Moldovan and never heard of ogheal.

well you said you are from an upper middle class family, maybe your folks spoke standard Romanian at home, there are some Moldovans that do that in that social class. anyway by your entire discourse on any topic you seem totally disconnected from the realities in Romania in general and in Moldova region in particular. countryside Vaslui is pure Middle Ages in language, mentality and looks

[Ion Basescul]

Ţîcu, Ungheni, R. Moldova, relative of the Eurogenes kit JR2297171

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	29.21
2	East_Med	21.13
3	North_Atlantic	18.73
4	West_Med	15.46
5	West_Asian	10.82
6	Oceanian	1.7
7	Red_Sea	0.92
8	Sub-Saharan	0.72
9	Siberian	0.68
10	South_Asian	0.39
11	Amerindian	0.23

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Bulgarian	6.23
2	Romanian	7.52
3	Serbian	9.23
4	Moldavian	11.27
5	Greek_Thessaly	13.37
6	Croatian	14.21
7	Hungarian	15.87
8	Ukrainian_Lviv	19.71
9	Central_Greek	19.82
10	Austrian	19.85
11	Italian_Abruzzo	20.49
12	Tuscan	20.6
13	Ukrainian	20.72
14	South_Polish	20.77
15	East_Sicilian	21.08
16	East_German	21.16
17	Ashkenazi	21.49
18	North_Italian	21.63
19	West_Sicilian	21.77
20	Southwest_Russian	22.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		61.7%	Ukrainian	+	38.3%	Cyprian	@	3.64
2		56.6%	Estonian_Polish	+	43.4%	Cyprian	@	4.12
3		59.6%	Southwest_Russian	+	40.4%	Cyprian	@	4.23
4		53.5%	Central_Greek	+	46.5%	Southwest_Russian	@	4.29
5		55.8%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	44.2%	Algerian_Jewish	@	4.3
6		51.7%	Ashkenazi	+	48.3%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	4.31
7		56%	Belorussian	+	44%	Cyprian	@	4.34
8		52.1%	Lithuanian	+	47.9%	Cyprian	@	4.34
9		58.1%	Polish	+	41.9%	Cyprian	@	4.45
10		56.9%	Russian_Smolensk	+	43.1%	Cyprian	@	4.46
11		61.8%	South_Polish	+	38.2%	Cyprian	@	4.47
12		56.1%	Southwest_Russian	+	43.9%	Algerian_Jewish	@	4.5
13		51.7%	Southwest_Russian	+	48.3%	South_Italian	@	4.51
14		51.4%	Ashkenazi	+	48.6%	Southwest_Russian	@	4.52
15		56%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	44%	Italian_Jewish	@	4.53
16		63.1%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	36.9%	Cyprian	@	4.55
17		51.9%	Estonian	+	48.1%	Cyprian	@	4.59
18		53.8%	Central_Greek	+	46.2%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	4.6
19		66.1%	Ukrainian	+	33.9%	Lebanese_Christian	@	4.61
20		63.9%	Greek_Thessaly	+	36.1%	Southwest_Russian	@	4.63