Croatian Eurogenes results

**vbnetkhio** · 04-13-2020, 09:37 PM

I uploaded the Zagreb and B&H Croat academic samples to Gedmatch. I thought the "official" Eurogenes k13 Croatian average was caluclated from these samples, turns out it's probably just one person's result, not a proper average, just like the Serbian one.

here are the averages of the academic samples and the old one from Eurogenes k13:

.	North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_African	Sub-Saharan
Eurogenes_official_average	27.21	36.11	14.54	7.94	9.44	1.45	0.97	0.30	0.33	0.80	0.40	0.32	0.19
Zagreb	28.82	33.74	14.87	7.43	11.13	1.49	0.45	0.26	0.49	0.56	0.40	0.23	0.13
Herzegovina	25.99	33.19	15.00	8.53	13.27	1.11	0.95	0.05	0.72	0.74	0.45	0.00	0.00
Bosnia	26.85	32.16	15.72	7.30	13.75	1.74	0.73	0.21	0.56	0.28	0.52	0.10	0.09
Split	25.95	31.39	16.33	8.23	13.73	1.64	0.39	0.35	0.52	0.56	0.56	0.22	0.13
Zagreb+Bosnia+Herz+Split	26.90	32.62	15.48	7.87	12.97	1.49	0.63	0.22	0.57	0.53	0.48	0.14	0.09

ZF3039608	Croat_Bosnia_1
DZ9261363	Croat_Bosnia_12
LM6695156	Croat_Bosnia_12_2
HA6762284	Croat_Bosnia_16
JK5425682	Croat_Bosnia_19
XV6261662	Croat_Bosnia_6
FJ1838930	Croat_Croatia_133
FA7708544	Croat_Croatia_140
KQ4978920	Croat_Croatia_141
GT3633066	Croat_Croatia_142
KL2579480	Croat_Croatia_198
CA9512826	Croat_Croatia_26
QF3935386	Croat_Croatia_302
SB9020540	Croat_Croatia_305
MR9434030	Croat_Croatia_312
SV1626782	Croat_Croatia_344
CX2048211	Croat_Croatia_43
NA2951902	Croat_Croatia_432_outlier
ZA6592572	Croat_Croatia_53
QQ6973072	Croat_Herzegovina_1
EK3222333	Croat_Herzegovina_11
BT7536017	Croat_Herzegovina_13
PN8942085	Croat_Herzegovina_20
ZA3726481	Croat_Herzegovina_8
BZ1292358	Croatian_Split_CRO103
KF7635766	Croatian_Split_CRO107
CK9480635	Croatian_Split_CRO153
GL4082504	Croatian_Split_CRO31
ZB5145703	Croatian_Split_CRO41
EF2976947	Croatian_Split_CRO47
SR9089754	Croatian_Split_CRO48
BV3010803	Croatian_Split_CRO53
NK7287400	Croatian_Split_CRO66
CN7368883	Croatian_Split_CRO93

**vbnetkhio** · 04-13-2020, 09:52 PM

individual results

.	North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_African	Sub-Saharan
Croatian_Split_CRO103	23.46	32.45	17.06	8.66	10.15	5.57	0.93	0	0	0.06	1.65	0	0
Croatian_Split_CRO107	25.01	34.04	12.97	8.47	15.25	2.39	0	0	1.25	0	0.62	0	0
Croatian_Split_CRO153	29	27.57	17.17	4.16	16.37	1.87	0	0.48	0.81	1.14	0	0.68	0.73
Croatian_Split_CRO31	31.59	30.21	14.61	5.69	14.59	1.41	0.93	0	0	0.55	0	0.41	0
Croatian_Split_CRO41	24.31	34.41	15.55	9.74	13.14	0.31	0	0	0	1.48	0.24	0.81	0
Croatian_Split_CRO47	29.52	32.08	19.65	6.48	8.52	0.73	0	0.75	0.61	0.94	0.71	0	0
Croatian_Split_CRO48	25.55	28.76	16.9	8.55	16.82	0.97	0.93	0	0.18	0	1.34	0	0
Croatian_Split_CRO53	25.03	31.06	19.23	12.69	7.89	0.64	1.14	0	0.81	0.46	0.77	0.28	0
Croatian_Split_CRO66	20.04	30.21	14.21	11.28	19.05	2.02	0	1.49	0.46	0.95	0.3	0	0
Croatian_Split_CRO93	25.97	33.11	15.96	6.6	15.56	0.46	0	0.74	1.06	0	0	0	0.55
Split	25.95	31.39	16.33	8.23	13.73	1.64	0.39	0.35	0.52	0.56	0.56	0.22	0.13

cro_bos_1	25.95	30.03	16.85	6.06	16.04	2.05	1.2	0.16	0.21	0.93	0.48	0	0.04
cro_bos_12	28.02	35.67	12.87	6.18	13.86	1.25	0.28	0.49	0.17	0.07	0.8	0.35	0
cro_bos_12	30.69	33.84	16.24	5.56	8.38	1.9	2.64	0.33	0.37	0.02	0	0	0.03
cro_bos_16	25.67	32	16.84	7.1	14.64	1.29	0.07	0	1.53	0	0.26	0.26	0.34
cro_bos_19	27.4	29.85	14.53	9.99	16.72	0	0.03	0	0.97	0.3	0.21	0	0
cro_bos_6	23.39	31.55	16.96	8.9	12.88	3.93	0.17	0.3	0.11	0.34	1.35	0	0.12
Bosnia	26.85	32.16	15.72	7.3	13.75	1.74	0.73	0.21	0.56	0.28	0.52	0.1	0.09

cro_herz_1	26.2	33.79	15.18	9.91	12.18	0.74	0	0	0.57	1.01	0.41	0	0
cro_herz_11	29.87	31.69	13.83	7.41	10.3	0.89	4.17	0.01	1.02	0.61	0.19	0.01	0
cro_herz_13	27.54	31.42	16.45	7.85	12.35	3.19	0.03	0	1.04	0.09	0.02	0	0.01
cro_herz_20	26.6	32.35	13.59	7.14	17.39	0.05	0.53	0.08	0	1.71	0.57	0	0
cro_herz_8	19.74	36.68	15.96	10.33	14.14	0.68	0.04	0.15	0.96	0.27	1.05	0	0
Herzegovina	25.99	33.19	15	8.53	13.27	1.11	0.95	0.05	0.72	0.74	0.45	0	0

Croat_Croatia_26	26.38	34.91	15.05	10.92	7.3	1.22	2.57	0	0	1.03	0.16	0.46	0
Croat_Croatia_43	31.7	35.34	15.68	5.4	8.09	2.19	0	0.74	0.45	0	0.41	0	0
Croat_Croatia_53	28.84	37.04	12.76	6.55	11.15	1.98	0	0	0.6	0.53	0	0.54	0
Croat_Croatia_133	29.36	33.12	13.26	9.08	12.22	0	1.23	0.15	0.58	1.01	0	0	0
Croat_Croatia_140	29.47	35.36	14.86	6.78	10.77	0.62	0.24	0.42	0	0.84	0.44	0.2	0
Croat_Croatia_141	26.08	32.83	12.96	8.86	14.64	2.13	0	0.82	0	0.94	0.66	0	0.08
Croat_Croatia_142	26.03	38.69	13.15	6.09	11.56	1.82	0	1.03	0	0	0.97	0	0.63
Croat_Croatia_198	29.85	28.79	17.81	7.75	11.36	2.19	0	0	0.42	0	1.16	0.51	0.16
Croat_Croatia_302	28.73	32.28	15.61	7.73	13.56	0.42	0.1	0	0.86	0	0	0	0.68
Croat_Croatia_305	31.12	33.4	14.57	5.3	10.31	1.96	0.42	0	1.23	0.15	0.95	0.55	0
Croat_Croatia_312	29.32	34.78	15.44	6.84	9.68	1.07	0.1	0	0.9	1.39	0	0.48	0
Croat_Croatia_344	28.94	28.37	17.26	7.89	12.89	2.26	0.68	0	0.89	0.81	0	0	0
Zagreb	28.82	33.74	14.87	7.43	11.13	1.49	0.45	0.26	0.49	0.56	0.4	0.23	0.13

**Jana** · 04-13-2020, 09:56 PM

Nice, awesome work! I always knew official average was very off.
These averages need to be added to updated Vahaduo! Split and Bosnia are already there, If I'm not mistaken.

Old average should be deleted as it's useless.

**Jana** · 04-13-2020, 10:06 PM

My father's results, Croat as f..K

Distance to: Feiichy_Father

3.09213518 Croatia_average_academic
3.11486757 Croat_Zagreb
3.25670078 Szekely_Hungarian
3.50968660 Croat_Split
3.61921262 Croat_Bosnia
3.72561908 Serbian_Bosnia
3.73799411 HungarianTA
3.94295561 Slovenian
3.95914132 Croat_Herzegovina
3.97451884 South_Croat_average
4.16702532 Moldova_North
4.23561094 Hungarian_New
4.78144330 Bosniak_new_average
5.02407205 Bosniak_Tuzla
5.06943784 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
5.15425352 Bosnian
5.65732269 Csango_Gymes
5.71149718 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
5.71721086 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
5.78747032 Serbian_new
5.88855670 Moldavian
6.23608852 Serb_Croatia
6.53415641 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
6.84916053 Hungarian_East
7.19919440 Kaykavian_Croatian

Target: Feiichy_Father
Distance: 1.7272% / 1.72718184 | ADC: 0.25x

72.0 Croat_Zagreb
11.2 Romanian_Transylvania
10.2 Hungarian_Transdanubia
4.0 Romanian_Muntenia
2.0 Bosniak_Tuzla
0.6 Dai

Target: Feiichy_Father
Distance: 2.2541% / 2.25413607 | ADC: 0.5x

32.6 Croat_Split
25.4 Hungarian_New
20.8 Croat_Zagreb
19.8 Croatia_average_academic
1.4 Hungarian_Transdanubia

Target: Feiichy_Father
Distance: 2.5212% / 2.52123063 | ADC: 1x

51.0 Croatia_average_academic
32.2 Croat_Zagreb
16.8 HungarianTA

**vbnetkhio** · 04-13-2020, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Est.1992

Split and Bosnia are already there, If I'm not mistaken.

Split is, the Bosnian one is just from 4 samples from both Bosnia and Herzegovina.

**Impaler** · 04-13-2020, 10:19 PM

Interesting this one, 4.17% South Asian.

cro_herz_11,29.87,31.69,13.83,7.41,10.3,0.89,4.17, 0.01,1.02,0.61,0.19,0.01,0

Target: cro_herz_11
Distance: 0.8082% / 0.80817057 | ADC: 0.25x
49.0 Croat_Bosnia
19.6 Hungarian_East
12.4 Kaykavian_Croatian
9.0 Hungarian_Transdanubia
7.2 Hungarian_New
2.0 Chamar
0.8 Kol

Distance to: cro_herz_11
3.61527316 HungarianTA
3.63381342 Hungarian_New
3.70149041 Croat_Bosnia
4.39564871 Slovenian
5.48140493 Hungarian_East
5.60564002 Kaykavian_Croatian
5.66497132 Szekely
5.72608942 Csango_Gymes
6.28194237 Croatian
6.43932450 Croat_Split

**Jana** · 04-13-2020, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

Split is, the Bosnian one is just from 4 samples from both Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Thanks, I now saved real Bosnia average, will send these to Lukas and maybe will add to academic average Kajkavian average?
I don't think Slavic and Morlach cluster need to be added as Split average is basically between them.

What about Bosnian Serb average, how many samples and from where, it is good? It's very Croat like.

**Jana** · 04-13-2020, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Impaler

Interesting this one, 4.17% South Asian.

cro_herz_11,29.87,31.69,13.83,7.41,10.3,0.89,4.17, 0.01,1.02,0.61,0.19,0.01,0

Target: cro_herz_11
Distance: 0.8082% / 0.80817057 | ADC: 0.25x
49.0 Croat_Bosnia
19.6 Hungarian_East
12.4 Kaykavian_Croatian
9.0 Hungarian_Transdanubia
7.2 Hungarian_New
2.0 Chamar
0.8 Kol

Distance to: cro_herz_11
3.61527316 HungarianTA
3.63381342 Hungarian_New
3.70149041 Croat_Bosnia
4.39564871 Slovenian
5.48140493 Hungarian_East
5.60564002 Kaykavian_Croatian
5.66497132 Szekely
5.72608942 Csango_Gymes
6.28194237 Croatian
6.43932450 Croat_Split

Maybe minor Gypsy or rather steppe input? His other values are very usual.

**Leto** · 04-13-2020, 10:23 PM

Good stuff!

Originally Posted by Impaler

Interesting this one, 4.17% South Asian.

cro_herz_11,29.87,31.69,13.83,7.41,10.3,0.89,4.17, 0.01,1.02,0.61,0.19,0.01,0

Target: cro_herz_11
Distance: 0.8082% / 0.80817057 | ADC: 0.25x
49.0 Croat_Bosnia
19.6 Hungarian_East
12.4 Kaykavian_Croatian
9.0 Hungarian_Transdanubia
7.2 Hungarian_New
2.0 Chamar
0.8 Kol

Distance to: cro_herz_11
3.61527316 HungarianTA
3.63381342 Hungarian_New
3.70149041 Croat_Bosnia
4.39564871 Slovenian
5.48140493 Hungarian_East
5.60564002 Kaykavian_Croatian
5.66497132 Szekely
5.72608942 Csango_Gymes
6.28194237 Croatian
6.43932450 Croat_Split

Romani people exist in Croatia too.

**Jana** · 04-13-2020, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Good stuff!

Romani people exist in Croatia too.

His east med/west asian/red sea are not elevated, and his baltic/na is quite regular too.
na is even above average. So I am not sure what is ancestry of this person.

He/she is from Herzegovina btw, that's another country