Croatian Eurogenes results

[Jana]

that's a difficult question. the Split, Bosnian and Herzegovinian Croat averages are all pretty simialr to each other as you can see , and they are intermediates between the Morlach and Slavic clusters. maybe it would be the best to have just one "South Croat" average from these 3.

but if we delete the South Croat Slavic cluster, and the Moldovan average gets replaced with a new one which is ~30% Baltic, how will those people with, for example, 35% Baltic and 22% Atlantic be represented in the sheet? and they do exist. maybe genetic groups are more important than ethnic or geographic ones.

Hmm, difficult question indeed. My plan is to collect more samples purely from let's say Dalmatia or Bosnia and blend them with existing academic regional averages we have.
Maybe some things change.

Morlach cluster is already obsolete because I included Ljubic father in it and later he found out his father is partly from Serbia, for example.

[Jana]

Updated K13 is a mess, it needs a cleanup. Many of these Bulgarian and Romanian averages (not counting Ion's new averages which will be great) and probably Greek and Turkish, Macedonian ones consist of 1 sample!!!
That's not reliable at all. At least 5 should be a minimum in my opinion.

I know Bulgarian_Dupnitsa for example is just one person, etc.

I will be running my own modified K13 with only decent samples.

[Jana]

Btw, I will include Croats posted by Mingle in my database, as they are verified since he spoke with them That's very helpful.
But they will be added to gedmatch later, when I collect much more samples.

[Ljubic]

Isnt my Father on the Morlach cluster? He is 1/4 Serb from Srjem so he can be thrown out completly.

[Jana]

Isnt my Father on the Morlach cluster? He is 1/4 Serb from Srjem so he can be thrown out completly.

Yeah, that average is obsolete by now.

[Jana]

This academic sample from Split scores almost 6% Red Sea. Is this possible score full a full ethnic Croat? Share your opinion

Croat_Split,23.46,32.45,17.06,8.66,10.15,5.57,0.93 ,0,0,0.06,1.65,0,0

I think it's too much, but maybe I am mistaken.

[CommonSense]

This academic sample from Split scores almost 6% Red Sea. Is this possible score full a full ethnic Croat? Share your opinion

Croat_Split,23.46,32.45,17.06,8.66,10.15,5.57,0.93 ,0,0,0.06,1.65,0,0

I think it's too much, but maybe I am mistaken.

Some academic samples have extremely hightened (or lowered) values of certain components. One Serbian sample from that well-known study gets 32 North Atlantic on K13.

[vbnetkhio]

Some academic samples have extremely hightened (or lowered) values of certain components. One Serbian sample from that well-known study gets 32 North Atlantic on K13.

that sample is just Germanic admixed. here it could also be because Split samples are very low quality.

[Jana]

Well, I will include them all. Even that Herzegovina guy with high south asian, his other values are very ok, and I guess he knows no foreign ancestry.
not like one or two sample with bit atypical value can hurt

[CommonSense]

that sample is just Germanic admixed. here it could also be because Split samples are very low quality.

Are you sure? I thought the criteria for the candidates they tested was that they had four ethnic Serbian gradparents. Now it's obviously understandable that some who have roots from Montenegro, but their grandparents were born here, were selected. But how could they have included a person who has, for example, a German grandparent? Sounds like a pretty big slip-up to me.