South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

[CommonSense]

Munteanu, Romanian. All surnames listed are Romanian, but I don't know where they're from.

Spoiler!

Kit MS8808911

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.32
2 East_Med 20.94
3 North_Atlantic 19.93
4 West_Med 17.29
5 West_Asian 11.99
6 Siberian 1.39
7 Amerindian 1.02
8 Red_Sea 0.79
9 Sub-Saharan 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.22
2 Romanian 5.16
3 Serbian 8.48
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.67
5 Moldavian 12.15
6 Croatian 15.25
7 Hungarian 16.01
8 Central_Greek 17.29
9 Italian_Abruzzo 17.65
10 Tuscan 17.71
11 East_Sicilian 18.69
12 North_Italian 18.76
13 West_Sicilian 19.13
14 Austrian 19.47
15 Ashkenazi 19.69
16 East_German 21.06
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.29
18 South_Italian 21.7
19 South_Polish 22.23
20 Ukrainian 22.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.6% Bulgarian + 4.4% Mari @ 2.71
2 95% Bulgarian + 5% Chuvash @ 2.71
3 94.5% Bulgarian + 5.5% Erzya @ 2.74
4 95.4% Bulgarian + 4.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.91
5 94.7% Bulgarian + 5.3% Tatar @ 2.92
6 94.8% Bulgarian + 5.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.93
7 98% Bulgarian + 2% Selkup @ 2.93
8 95.1% Bulgarian + 4.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.95
9 98.1% Bulgarian + 1.9% Ket @ 2.98
10 97.4% Bulgarian + 2.6% MA-1 @ 2.98
11 96.6% Bulgarian + 3.4% Lithuanian @ 3.01
12 96% Bulgarian + 4% Estonian_Polish @ 3.01
13 96.3% Bulgarian + 3.7% Belorussian @ 3.04
14 96.9% Bulgarian + 3.1% East_Finnish @ 3.04
15 96.2% Bulgarian + 3.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.04
16 95.7% Bulgarian + 4.3% Ukrainian @ 3.06
17 98.6% Bulgarian + 1.4% West_Greenlander @ 3.08
18 59.1% Central_Greek + 40.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.08
19 97.2% Bulgarian + 2.8% Estonian @ 3.09
20 98.4% Bulgarian + 1.6% Shors @ 3.1

[Pribislav]

I think it won't be problem, validated samples are hard to come by.
Croats from Grude you mentioned, are those academic kits from Herzegovina you already posted or something else?



Both are obsolete and based on results of one person each darling.

My point was how is possible that Serb with 31% North_Atlantic and 30% Baltic is still closer to official Serbian than Croatian average.

[Jana]

My point was how is possible that Serb with 31% North_Atlantic and 30% Baltic is still closer to official Serbian than Croatian average.

Because that officicial averages mean nothing, Serb average is one person, Croatian is one person.
I think results I posted so far demonstrate how innacurate this averages is (they are not averages either, because average means it is at least two samples), especially Croatian.

Those are proper academic averages from research papers if we are talking about capital cities.

Serbian_Belgrade_academic,24.42,28.12,17.06,9.06,1 7.09,1.48,0.45,0.36,0.73,0.56,0.54,0.1,0.04
Croat_Zagreb_academic,28.82,33.74,14.87,7.43,11.13 ,1.49,0.45,0.26,0.49,0.56,0.40,0.23,0.13
Bosniak_Sarajevo_academic,24.8,31.82,15.17,8.94,14 .02,1.63,1.59,0.57,0.58,0.37,0.34,0.01,0.08

[Pribislav]

Because that officicial averages mean nothing, Serb average is one person, Croatian is one person.
I think results I posted so far demonstrate how innacurate this averages is (they are not averages either, because average means it is at least two samples), especially Croatian.

Those are proper academic averages from research papers if we are talking about capital cities.

Serbian_Belgrade_academic,24.42,28.12,17.06,9.06,1 7.09,1.48,0.45,0.36,0.73,0.56,0.54,0.1,0.04
Croat_Zagreb_academic,28.82,33.74,14.87,7.43,11.13 ,1.49,0.45,0.26,0.49,0.56,0.40,0.23,0.13

I don't know for Croatians, but that average for Serbs have nothing to do with reality. Even Serbs from Serbia are 30% Baltic on aveage on 27 samples posted by vbnetkhio.

[CommonSense]

Varićak, Serb from Kozarska Dubica (Bosnia) and Ralja (central Serbia)

Y-DNA: I2 > I-PH908 (member of Serbian DNA project)

Spoiler!

Kit T526448

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.38
2 North_Atlantic 24.95
3 West_Med 16.7
4 East_Med 15.91
5 West_Asian 11.84
6 South_Asian 0.83
7 Amerindian 0.66
8 East_Asian 0.39
9 Red_Sea 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.91
2 Romanian 4.42
3 Bulgarian 6.3
4 Moldavian 7.28
5 Croatian 9.89
6 Hungarian 10.14
7 Austrian 13.38
8 East_German 14.87
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.13
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.39
11 South_Polish 16.94
12 Ukrainian 17.54
13 West_German 18.41
14 North_Italian 18.63
15 Tuscan 19.66
16 French 19.93
17 South_Dutch 20.03
18 Polish 20.59
19 Southwest_Russian 20.71
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.9% Bulgarian + 26.1% South_Polish @ 2.16
2 84.3% Romanian + 15.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.2
3 82% Romanian + 18% Ukrainian @ 2.22
4 62% Bulgarian + 38% Croatian @ 2.23
5 71.7% Romanian + 28.3% Croatian @ 2.26
6 64.7% Romanian + 35.3% Moldavian @ 2.32
7 81.7% Romanian + 18.3% South_Polish @ 2.32
8 88.2% Romanian + 11.8% Lithuanian @ 2.33
9 84.5% Romanian + 15.5% Polish @ 2.36
10 85.8% Romanian + 14.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.36
11 84.7% Romanian + 15.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.38
12 81.4% Romanian + 18.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.4
13 77.8% Bulgarian + 22.2% Polish @ 2.4
14 86.3% Romanian + 13.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.47
15 75% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian @ 2.51
16 86.7% Romanian + 13.3% Belorussian @ 2.53
17 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Moldavian @ 2.6
18 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.61
19 88.5% Romanian + 11.5% Estonian @ 2.62
20 63.1% Bulgarian + 36.9% Hungarian @ 2.64

[Jana]

I don't know for Croatians, but that average for Serbs have nothing to do with reality. Even Serbs from Serbia are 30% Baltic on aveage on 27 samples posted by vbnetkhio.

That is academic average for Belgrade Serbs who were tested, nothing more.
And real picture is when you mix them with those fully validated samples you found, not only posting those you like and ignoring Serbs with lower Slavic influence who are obviously relevant.

My guess is lot of these Belgrade Serbs have roots from Montenegro, which is usual for capital city.

Edit: lmao, just noticed Belgrade average is 28% Baltic while that you guys collected is 30%. Big f..... 2% difference.
Pribislav acting as if I posted Sub-Saharan Africans.

[vbnetkhio]

I think it won't be problem, validated samples are hard to come by.
Croats from Grude you mentioned, are those academic kits from Herzegovina you already posted or something else?



Both are obsolete and based on results of one person each darling.

yes, these 4 academic samples hava a known location and haplogroup:

DZ9261363 Croat_Bosnia_12 Ponijevo_Zepce, i2a

HA6762284 Croat_Bosnia_16 Lug_Zepce

EK3222333 Croat_Herzegovina_11 Mostar, Q1d

BT7536017 Croat_Herzegovina_13 Duge_Grude, i2a

[Jana]

My database ofcourse includes both academics and validated Croat samples I collected, I will combine both for most accurate statistics possible.
So far I have more than 90

[Pribislav]

That is academic average for Belgrade Serbs who were tested, nothing more.
And real picture is when you mix them with those fully validated samples you found, not only posting those you like and ignoring Serbs with lower Slavic influence who are obviously relevant.

My guess is lot of these Belgrade Serbs have roots from Montenegro, which is usual for capital city.

For sure, Belgrade is full of Montenegrins.
There is a joke - What would be if Montenegrins have glowing eyes? Belgrade would be like Las Vegas.

Vbnetkhio's average is very good, because there are samples from various regions of Serbia.

[Jana]

For sure, Belgrade is full of Montenegrins.
There is a joke - What would be if Montenegrins have glowing eyes? Belgrade wold be like Las Vegas.

Vbnetkhio's average is very good, because there are samples from various regions of Serbia.

His average will be improved if those academics were added which every normal person would do, but it's your own business, do what you want.
I will be as transparent as possible and not leaving out anyone just because I don't like their scores.

Only exception is this Albanian like person, too big outlier to include, and no Croat matches practically. But if I get confirmation he is ethnic Croat from Kosovo I will include him.
I even included Croat from Split with almost 7% Red Sea and Herzegovina Croat with almost 5% South Asian.