South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

[CommonSense]

Gorski. Half Macedonian from Prespa, half Serb from Lika:

Spoiler!

Kit KP2099126

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.31
2 North_Atlantic 20.18
3 West_Med 19.8
4 East_Med 16.41
5 West_Asian 14.49
6 Red_Sea 1.8

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.41
2 Romanian 6.06
3 Serbian 8.39
4 Moldavian 10.53
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.89
6 Croatian 13.77
7 Hungarian 15.36
8 Austrian 18.27
9 Tuscan 19.06
10 North_Italian 19.11
11 Central_Greek 19.15
12 Italian_Abruzzo 19.35
13 East_German 19.72
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.75
15 East_Sicilian 20.69
16 South_Polish 20.99
17 Ukrainian 21.03
18 West_Sicilian 21.09
19 Ashkenazi 22.91
20 West_German 22.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.1% Moldavian + 33.9% Central_Greek @ 4.42
2 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Moldavian @ 4.5
3 90.9% Bulgarian + 9.1% Erzya @ 4.63
4 77.9% Moldavian + 22.1% Cyprian @ 4.64
5 89.4% Bulgarian + 10.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.65
6 87.6% Bulgarian + 12.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.68
7 88.6% Bulgarian + 11.4% Ukrainian @ 4.73
8 90.7% Bulgarian + 9.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.75
9 83.2% Bulgarian + 16.8% Croatian @ 4.75
10 71.2% Moldavian + 28.8% South_Italian @ 4.76
11 91.4% Bulgarian + 8.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.76
12 92.4% Bulgarian + 7.6% Lithuanian @ 4.77
13 90.2% Bulgarian + 9.8% Southwest_Russian @ 4.78
14 90.6% Bulgarian + 9.4% Polish @ 4.82
15 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Estonian_Polish @ 4.84
16 56.1% Moldavian + 43.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.85
17 52.5% Central_Greek + 47.5% Ukrainian @ 4.87
18 89.8% Bulgarian + 10.2% South_Polish @ 4.9
19 68.3% Moldavian + 31.7% East_Sicilian @ 4.92
20 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Belorussian @ 4.93

[Jana]

^^^^he's got very decent Baltic score for half Macedonian, my guess is his parents were quite Slavic (either both or just one side, impossible to say without testing them)

[Pribislav]

I posted two Bosniaks right here, both are closer to the Serbian than to the Croatian average. Also, there's that guy who Zukorlić uploaded, but I don't have access to their family tree. Carpatz knows of a Bosniak from Romanija who gets 98 Serbian + 2 Papuan (he gets some weird noise australian score) on K13 oracles. The kit is now sadly gone, though I guess the guy could be convinced to reupload.

Hadžić, Bosniak from Sarajevo or central Bosnia 20200318_130226.jpg

[Pribislav]

Those native to NW Bosnia ofcourse are, and they are well aware of it. But there was population replacement in ''Turkish Croatia'' and many of the people currently living in that region including Serbs have origins from elsewhere.

When Ottomans conquered most of present day Western Bosnia in 1527 and mostwestern part Cazinska Krajina in 1591 region was heavy depopulated. Croatians migrated to Kvarner, Gorski Kotar, western Hungary, Slovakia, NW Croatia and Burgenland. Ottomans brought new population from Herzegovina, East Bosnia, Raška and Montenegro, part of that settlers from 16th century converted on Islam (they were Orthodoxes and Serbs) and on this way are created Western Bosnia Muslims (later Bosniaks).

[CommonSense]

Zherebnyi, Ukrainian:

Spoiler!

Kit T688472

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.55
2 North_Atlantic 25.78
3 West_Med 12.02
4 East_Med 7.33
5 West_Asian 4.64
6 Siberian 2.5
7 Amerindian 0.71
8 Sub-Saharan 0.47

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 4.12
2 Southwest_Russian 4.24
3 Estonian_Polish 5.25
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.77
5 Russian_Smolensk 5.78
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.82
7 Polish 6.07
8 Belorussian 6.43
9 South_Polish 6.53
10 Kargopol_Russian 8.38
11 Lithuanian 9.97
12 Erzya 10.18
13 Croatian 10.57
14 Estonian 10.67
15 Finnish 12.54
16 East_Finnish 12.56
17 Moldavian 13.16
18 Southwest_Finnish 13.75
19 Hungarian 14.9
20 East_German 16.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% Southwest_Russian + 5.3% Sardinian @ 2.9
2 85.3% Estonian_Polish + 14.7% Bulgarian @ 3.14
3 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Sardinian @ 3.18
4 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.22
5 90.7% Estonian_Polish + 9.3% Central_Greek @ 3.27
6 91.6% Estonian_Polish + 8.4% South_Italian @ 3.28
7 51.8% Ukrainian + 48.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.29
8 92.3% Estonian_Polish + 7.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.3
9 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Cyprian @ 3.35
10 75.9% Estonian_Polish + 24.1% Moldavian @ 3.35
11 91.1% Estonian_Polish + 8.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.35
12 84.9% Estonian_Polish + 15.1% Romanian @ 3.35
13 91.2% Estonian_Polish + 8.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.37
14 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.41
15 91.1% Estonian_Polish + 8.9% West_Sicilian @ 3.41
16 80.5% Ukrainian + 19.5% Erzya @ 3.41
17 63.6% Ukrainian + 36.4% Estonian_Polish @ 3.44
18 93.8% Southwest_Russian + 6.2% Southwest_French @ 3.47
19 72.3% Lithuanian + 27.7% Bulgarian @ 3.48
20 78% Lithuanian + 22% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.52

[CommonSense]

Macura, Dalmatian Serb:

Spoiler!

Kit T570064

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.12
2 North_Atlantic 27.06
3 East_Med 19.79
4 West_Med 15.75
5 West_Asian 6.5
6 Red_Sea 1.47
7 Amerindian 1.3
8 Oceanian 0.48
9 East_Asian 0.3
10 Siberian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.72
2 Romanian 5.77
3 Bulgarian 7.42
4 Moldavian 10.63
5 Hungarian 10.67
6 Croatian 12.06
7 Austrian 13.6
8 Greek_Thessaly 14.47
9 East_German 15.32
10 North_Italian 16.81
11 West_German 17.52
12 Tuscan 17.68
13 French 18.34
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.4
15 South_Polish 18.46
16 South_Dutch 19.12
17 Ukrainian 19.33
18 Italian_Abruzzo 20.27
19 Portuguese 20.3
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62% South_Polish + 38% Italian_Jewish @ 3.51
2 69.3% Hungarian + 30.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.61
3 54% West_Sicilian + 46% Belorussian @ 3.77
4 56.1% Tuscan + 43.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.82
5 57.6% West_Sicilian + 42.4% Estonian @ 3.89
6 58.7% Tuscan + 41.3% Belorussian @ 3.97
7 57.7% Polish + 42.3% Italian_Jewish @ 4.02
8 64.6% Greek_Thessaly + 35.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.02
9 74.9% Hungarian + 25.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.05
10 75.2% Hungarian + 24.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.06
11 53.7% South_Polish + 46.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.09
12 51% Estonian + 49% Italian_Jewish @ 4.1
13 91% Serbian + 9% Ashkenazi @ 4.16
14 58.4% Tuscan + 41.6% Estonian_Polish @ 4.16
15 53.6% West_Sicilian + 46.4% Estonian_Polish @ 4.17
16 58.4% West_Sicilian + 41.6% Lithuanian @ 4.2
17 58.5% Hungarian + 41.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.22
18 56.8% Tuscan + 43.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.23
19 93.3% Serbian + 6.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.23
20 55.7% South_Polish + 44.3% Ashkenazi @ 4.24

[JohnnyP]

^^^^he's got very decent Baltic score for half Macedonian, my guess is his parents were quite Slavic (either both or just one side, impossible to say without testing them)

Im pretty sure that Macedonian from Prespa would be no more than 20-21 Baltic...

Edit:Btw here's Gorski , i would say Lika Serb was with too much Baltic. Here more Lika Serb gedmatch ?
Gorski Todor Nikolovski (1910-1987), Prespa, Macedonia Macedonia J-M172.

[Konstantinos]

I have started collecting samples from Greece, threads like that will be a good source for a Greek-heavy thread in the future.

[JohnnyP]

I have started collecting samples from Greece, threads like that will be a good source for a Greek-heavy thread in the future.

If you have it , please pm me , i want to make comparation from North Greeks and Macedonians , from what i saw pretty similar/same.

[Pribislav]

Im pretty sure that Macedonian from Prespa would be no more than 20-21 Baltic...

Edit:Btw here's Gorski , i would say Lika Serb was with too much Baltic. Here more Lika Serb gedmatch ?
Gorski Todor Nikolovski (1910-1987), Prespa, Macedonia Macedonia J-M172.

Lika Serb 1 20200319_114346.jpg

Lika Serb 2 20200331_064912.jpg

Lika Serb 3 20200318_153619.jpg

Lika Serb 4 20200319_120218.jpg