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    Quote Originally Posted by Bessarion View Post
    K13...
    Thank you, I just noticed your post. Tomorrow will make models for you

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    Croat from Northeast-Bosnia

    Population
    North_Atlantic 22.96 Pct
    Baltic 36.43 Pct
    West_Med 13.75 Pct
    West_Asian 7.74 Pct
    East_Med 14.87 Pct
    Red_Sea 2.02 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian 0.45 Pct
    Siberian 1.49 Pct
    Amerindian 0.29 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Croat from Mostar (Ljubic ive already posted)

    Population
    North_Atlantic 29.97 Pct
    Baltic 32.70 Pct
    West_Med 13.33 Pct
    West_Asian 5.87 Pct
    East_Med 12.43 Pct
    Red_Sea 2.79 Pct
    South_Asian 1.14 Pct
    East_Asian 0.39 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.27 Pct
    Oceanian 1.12 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Croat from Capljina Area 1

    Population
    North_Atlantic 24.74 Pct
    Baltic 31.98 Pct
    West_Med 14.99 Pct
    West_Asian 9.23 Pct
    East_Med 16.08 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.36 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian 0.16 Pct
    Siberian 1.34 Pct
    Amerindian 1.13 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Croat from Capljina Area 2

    Population
    North_Atlantic 20.78 Pct
    Baltic 34.37 Pct
    West_Med 14.88 Pct
    West_Asian 9.93 Pct
    East_Med 18.23 Pct
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian 0.14 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.75 Pct
    Amerindian 0.76 Pct
    Oceanian 0.15 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Croat from Capljina Area 3

    Population
    North_Atlantic 27.89 Pct
    Baltic 29.48 Pct
    West_Med 16.13 Pct
    West_Asian 7.71 Pct
    East_Med 16.87 Pct
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.65 Pct
    Amerindian 0.83 Pct
    Oceanian 0.36 Pct
    Northeast_African 0.07 Pct
    Sub-Saharan -

    Croat Greatuncle from Tomislavgrad

    Population
    North_Atlantic 27.11 Pct
    Baltic 31.59 Pct
    West_Med 16.43 Pct
    West_Asian 5.42 Pct
    East_Med 16.40 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.76 Pct
    South_Asian 0.43 Pct
    East_Asian 0.91 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.82 Pct
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 0.12 Pct

    Croat from Lika

    Population
    North_Atlantic 29.21 Pct
    Baltic 33.79 Pct
    West_Med 14.03 Pct
    West_Asian 6.93 Pct
    East_Med 13.13 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.79 Pct
    South_Asian 0.28 Pct
    East_Asian 0.33 Pct
    Siberian 0.97 Pct
    Amerindian 0.25 Pct
    Oceanian 0.28 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Croat from Hercegovina

    Population
    North_Atlantic 22.19 Pct
    Baltic 35.64 Pct
    West_Med 16.03 Pct
    West_Asian 7.99 Pct
    East_Med 14.58 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.63 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian 0.92 Pct
    Siberian 0.38 Pct
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.85 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 0.79 Pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Est.1992 View Post
    For some regions I have only 1 person (Slavonia, Istria, Gorski kotar, North Adriatic) so no point to upload them. I hope one Croatian user send me few Istrian samples he has so I can make that region too.
    Done. I presume it is very difficult to have a reliable average for Istria. It varies depending on the part of Istria, different ethnic-cultural mixtures, historical migrations etc., and this is by excluding migrations and mixed marriages since the 1940s. I think that average will change drastically with every new sample.

    Croat K13 regional and new national averages will be also included on vahaduo source list? That would be great, you done an excellent job.
    Last edited by MoroLP; 04-18-2020 at 06:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Est.1992 View Post
    3. Lika-Senj (sample size=12)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lika-Senj_County

    Collected from: Perušić, Senj municipalities and northern part of Pag Island

    North_Atlantic 26.27
    Baltic 32.93
    West_Med 15.49
    West_Asian 7.27
    East_Med 13.14
    Red_Sea 1.9
    South_Asian 0.34
    East_Asian 0.29
    Siberian 0.60
    Amerindian 0.34
    Oceanian 0.40
    Northeast_African 0.11
    Sub-Saharan 0.11

    Closest to Croats from Bosnia and Herzegovina which makes sense.

    Spoiler!
    all south Croat averages are very similar.. maybe averaging by genetic groups is better after all

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    I added Croat averages to K13 Updated http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    I added Croat averages to K13 Updated http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm
    you deleted the Morlach and Slavic south Croats?

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    Hey guys, I am quite busy at the moment but will try to answer PMs and reply here.

    My Croatian averages were weighted to be most realistic possible, for example in total Croat average I included separately Croatian regions + mean average of BiH Croats.
    I didn't add each BiH region separetly, but their average because BiH Croats are much less numerous than Croatia Croats and it would make them overrepresented.

    So my national averages are made from regional averages, not from each individual result, because than some regions would be extremely overrepresentaed.

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    Croat_BiH = Tropolje+Herzegovina+Bosnia averages
    Croat_Croatia = Zagreb+Zagorje+Central Croatia+Lika-Senj+Dalmatia averages

    Croat = Zagreb + Lika-Senj + Dalmatia + Zagorje + Central Croatia + Croat_BiH averages

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    you deleted the Morlach and Slavic south Croats?
    I asked him too. Morlach average is obsolete, because not all people in there are unmixed, I found that out later.
    These samples were cherrypicked (Slavic cluster too)

    Bosniak Tuzla is too, it includes specific few Bosniaks who all score same type of results and doesn't represent how average Bosniaks from there score ofcourse.
    That's why I always remove it in my runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bessarion View Post
    K13


    Distance to: Bessarion

    3.55025351 Hungarian
    4.72911197 Hungarian_Transdanubia
    5.73823143 Croat_Croatia
    5.82176090 Croat
    6.10909977 Croat_Zagreb
    6.12676913 Croat_Central_Croatia
    6.32324284 Szekely_Hungarian
    6.39854105 Slovenian
    6.48832028 Hungarian_East
    6.80173507 Croat_Bosnia
    6.83046851 Croat_Zagorje
    6.85547956 Csango_Gymes
    7.04613369 Croat_BiH
    7.15785582 Croat_Tropolje
    7.25290287 Croat_Lika-Senj
    7.33797230 Serbian_Bosnia
    7.46277428 Austrian
    7.70158425 Moldova_North
    7.85049680 Bosniak
    8.04870797 Serb_Krajina
    8.23479812 Croat_Dalmatia
    8.25105908 Bosniak_Sarajevo
    8.27340317 Croat_Herzegovina
    8.34005396 Serb_Dalmatia
    8.45358504 Serb_Croatia

    Target: Bessarion
    Distance: 1.7552% / 1.75522746 | ADC: 0.25x

    49.6 Hungarian_Transdanubia
    17.8 Croat_Central_Croatia
    16.6 Croat_Zagorje
    9.4 Bulgarian_Burgas
    6.2 Turk_Targovishte
    0.4 Pomak_Central-Macedonia

    Target: Bessarion
    Distance: 2.3981% / 2.39813029 | ADC: 0.5x

    60.2 Hungarian_Transdanubia
    31.8 Croat
    8.0 Bulgarian_Burgas

    Target: Bessarion
    Distance: 3.2481% / 3.24807361 | ADC: 1x

    66.2 Hungarian_Transdanubia
    33.8 Croat

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