Dodecad k12b south, west and central asian results

[Leto]

I’ve been trying to find my results for a while but without luck. I may just have to upload my 23andme to gedmatch again.

Or you can use the DNA Studio offline.

[Zoro]

I don't understand the importance of 5-10% Central Asian admixture if 95-90% is genetically identical or at least very similar. Actually I would be shocked if some East Eurasian admixture didn't exist on the Plateau as far back as the earliest Iranic empires. I believe to remember that even some Bronze/Iron Age East Anatolian samples (most likely Iranic because of very high Gedrosia percentages too) showed few percentages of East Eurasian admixture (3-4%). I know that there are some Azeris and Turkmens who can score as high as 15% Central Asian but I think they are rather exception than norm.

Yes according to the extensive formal analysis EurasianDNA did using my mom's Iraqi Kurdish sample using qpAdm and qpWave the results were that Kurd ancestors in the Iron Age about 2000 years ago (Haji-Firuz-IA) had already accumulated about 30% Central Asian (Sarmatian related) since Iran-Chl's time (4500 years ago).

So basically out of the 40% Central Asian modern Kurds have (compared to Iran-Chl), 30% of it already was present by the time of Haji-Firuz-IA. The remainder 10-15% Central Asian Kurds got was after Haji-Firuz-IA. Some of this could be Parthian related and some Turkic related.

[Babak]

Sassanids didn't have much East asian however:

Gedrosia 24.42 Pct
Siberian 1.63 Pct
Northwest_African 1.10 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.93 Pct
North_European 12.34 Pct
South_Asian 5.95 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.86 Pct
East_Asian 0.30 Pct
Caucasus 39.29 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.17 Pct


Nor did parthian:

[Zoro]

Sassanids didn't have much East asian however:

Gedrosia 24.42 Pct
Siberian 1.63 Pct
Northwest_African 1.10 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.93 Pct
North_European 12.34 Pct
South_Asian 5.95 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.86 Pct
East_Asian 0.30 Pct
Caucasus 39.29 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.17 Pct


Nor did parthian:

Yes, but you're forgetting one important fact. The references in the calculator are modern people who probably have more E. Eurasian than Sassanid. Try to use a calculator where the references for the components are not moderns but ancients that hardly have any E. Eurasian . Use a calculator with Anatolia-N or Iran-Chl or Iran-N components and I guarantee you'll see Sassanid score substantial E. Eurasian

[Leto]

Sassanids didn't have much East asian however:

Gedrosia 24.42 Pct
Siberian 1.63 Pct
Northwest_African 1.10 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.93 Pct
North_European 12.34 Pct
South_Asian 5.95 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.86 Pct
East_Asian 0.30 Pct
Caucasus 39.29 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.17 Pct

Distance to: Sassanid
6.65560666 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.14205153 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.69040961 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.35496858 Azerbaijani
8.37251456 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.58128778 Iran_Central_East
8.64250542 Iranian
8.78799750 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.85366591 Zaza
9.37118456 Kurd_Sorani

Target: Sassanid
Distance: 2.5687% / 2.56867390 | ADC: 0.5x
50.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
29.0 Iran_Central_East
20.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.2 Pulliyar

Target: Sassanid
Distance: 1.7024% / 1.70238113 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
23.0 Talysh_Azerbaijan
20.0 Iran_Central_East
2.6 Kurd_Sorani
2.0 Pulliyar
0.8 Georgian_Gurian

[Zoro]

Yes, but you're forgetting one important fact. The references in the calculator are modern people who probably have more E. Eurasian than Sassanid. Try to use a calculator where the references for the components are not moderns but ancients that hardly have any E. Eurasian . Use a calculator with Anatolia-N or Iran-Chl or Iran-N components and I guarantee you'll see Sassanid score substantial E. Eurasian

A good calculator for this would be something with these types of components

ENF
Iran-N
Shamanka-EN
WHG
South Africa-IA
East Africa-IA
South America-IA
AASI

[Demhat]

Sassanids didn't have much East asian however:

Gedrosia 24.42 Pct
Siberian 1.63 Pct
Northwest_African 1.10 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.93 Pct
North_European 12.34 Pct
South_Asian 5.95 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.86 Pct
East_Asian 0.30 Pct
Caucasus 39.29 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.17 Pct


Nor did parthian:

Do we already have Sassanid and Parthian samples? Is there a study about this?

The "Sassanid" sample you showed me had 2% East Eurasian DNA. Not far off from the 3-4% we found in the Iron Age East Anatolian sample. And to be fair aren't we really talking about a average 4-7% of East Eurasian ancestry here anways?

[Dr_Maul]

Sassanids didn't have much East asian however:

Gedrosia 24.42 Pct
Siberian 1.63 Pct
Northwest_African 1.10 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.93 Pct
North_European 12.34 Pct
South_Asian 5.95 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.86 Pct
East_Asian 0.30 Pct
Caucasus 39.29 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.17 Pct

Pretty close to mine if I wasn't slightly semitic shifted

Population
Gedrosia 27.49 Pct
Siberian 1.68 Pct
Northwest_African 3.36 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.12 Pct
North_European 4.50 Pct
South_Asian 5.04 Pct
East_African 0.64 Pct
Southwest_Asian 13.75 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 35.41 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Demhat]

What kind of Parthian is this? East or West Parthia.

[Demhat]

I would be thankful if someone could tell me from where this "Sassanid" and "Parthian" samples are from and in which study they were tested. I have been waiting for years for old West Iranic samples. And haven't heard of any study or sample yet.