Serbian Autosomal DNA

[Jana]

Your results are in range but on high end of Slavic input for Serbs. Just like Croats with 35% Baltic are on high end of Slavic and certanly not average.

[Jana]

Dušan got 31.76% Baltic for Krajina Serbs on 29 samples, and vbnetkhio claim 29.66% on 53.
To this be true, 24 samples between Dušan's 29 and vbnetkhio's 53 must be only 27% Baltic on average which is almost Mohtenegrin like avarage.

27 is absolutely not Montenegrin level as I have fairly many verified southern Croats with that amount of Baltic.

Average Montenegrins are 24-25

[Dušan]

Lets delete all regional averages and to stay this

Croat,28.17,33.10,14.63,7.80,11.67,1.42,0.60,0.20, 0.48,0.59,0.45,0.09,0.12
Serb,25.07,29.92,17.03,8.75,15.35,1.59,0.48,0.29,0 .67,0.43,0.30,0.08,0.04

I am ok with that.


But to add Herzegovina or Tropolje Croat average, and not to add Krajina Serb average is ridiculous!

[Jana]

Btw Istrian average of Baltic is 30 based on what I have so far.

[Jana]

Lets delete all regional averages and to stay this

Croat,28.17,33.10,14.63,7.80,11.67,1.42,0.60,0.20, 0.48,0.59,0.45,0.09,0.12
Serb,25.07,29.92,17.03,8.75,15.35,1.59,0.48,0.29,0 .67,0.43,0.30,0.08,0.04

I am ok with that.


But to add Herzegovina or Tropolje Croat average, and not to add Krajina Serb average is ridiculous!

I include all Serb regions in my runs made by Vbenthkio

Yes they should be added, but obviously his which has much larger sample size of confirmed samples. Or you send him those he lack so he can add them if they are verified.

[Pribislav]

27 is absolutely not Montenegrin level as I have fairly many verified southern Croats with that amount of Baltic.

Average Montenegrins are 24-25

Montenegrins are more like 26 on average.

Again I say, it's imposible to average Baltic is only 27 for Krajina Serbs on 25 samples between Dušan's 28 and vbnetkhio's 53 to fell for 2.1%. I made little mistake Dušan's sample was 28 and vbnetkhio claim 53.
27 Baltic is average for Shopluk Serbs.

[Jana]

Montenegrin are more like 26 on average.

Again I say, it's imposible to average Baltic between is only 27% for Krajina Serbs on 25 samples between Dušan's 28 and vbnetkhio's 53 to fell for 2.1%. I made little mistake Dušan's sample was 28 and vbnetkhio claim 53.
27% Baltic is average for Shopluk Serbs.

Just stop, nordicist who add people with completely unchecked background and almost never posted south shifted Serb. You don't know what is average for Shopluk based on 1 or 2 samples. Lot of western Serbs have 27% Baltic, a lot, especially since many Croats do to and we are more northern shifted overall.

You have no arguments, you just don't like his average.

[Pribislav]

Just stop, nordicist who add people with completely unchecked background and almost never posted south shifted Serb. You don't know what is average for Shopluk based on 1 or 2 samples. Lot of western Serbs have 27% Baltic, a lot, especially since many Croats do to and we are more northern shifted overall.

You have no arguments, you just don't like his average.

Wrong, Lika Serbs have high Baltic. According to vbnetkhio 31.45. Acoording to him Kordun/Banija Serbs are 30.92, and Dalmatian Serbs 29.53. Tell me how is possible that 31.45+30.92+29.53 / 3 = 29.66!? Lika+Kordun/Banija are 2/3 and Dalmatian ones are 1/3 or less in total sample.

[Jana]

Wrong, Lika Serbs have high Baltic. According to vbnetkhio 31.45. Acoording to him Kordun/Banija Serbs are 30.92, and Dalmatian Serbs 29.53. Tell me how is possible that 31.45+30.92+29.53 / 3 = 29.66!?

They have lot of variations and many certanly have low while others have high, unless you think Serbs are more northern than people here.

I don't count made up kits from HungryLion.

[vbnetkhio]

Croats from Zagreb have similar Baltic like Herzegovina, not Zagorje or even central Croatia, so what?

so it isn't representative for what we are researching here.
we are aiming for pre ww2 (mostly) rural populations here, right?

those academic averages should be included in the sheet just for fun, or to fill gaps where we don't have enough samples yet.

Maybe this Belgrade samples represent common genetics in city with lot of Montenegrin ancestry.

yes. there's probably some Macedonian and Vlach (Timok Romanian) admixture too. i have real gedmatch results of people like that, but i didn't include them in any average.

also there's one Austrian like sample, it could be a Danube Swabian or Hungarian.