Serbian Autosomal DNA

[Ljubic]

Isn't that absurd that Croats, who are almost twice as less numbered than Serbs, have 11 samples on calculator, and Serbs 4?

Yes, they are far more heterogeneus than us, but half of these regional averages are worthless and should be deleted.

And why are they worthless?

[Dušan]

According to this Dalmatian Croats are three times colser to general Serb average than to general Croat average.

And user who thumb me down - get the fuck out from Serbian topic. RAUS!

[Dušan]

And why are they worthless?

Because all B&H Croats could be in one average.
Are there separate average for Bosnian Serbs and for Herzegovinian Serbs?
Tropolje is microregion in Bosnia-Herzegovina with less then 30.000 inhabitants.

[vbnetkhio]

Isn't that absurd that Croats, who are almost twice as less numbered than Serbs, have 11 samples on calculator, and Serbs 4?

Yes, they are far more heterogeneus than us, but half of these regional averages are worthless and should be deleted.

yeah, just one "South Croat" average would be enough. just one Serb average would be enough too, but people still love to claim Croatian, Bosnian and Serbian Serbs aren't the same people, so let those averages stay and prove them wrong.

[Dušan]

yeah, just one "South Croat" average would be enough. just one Serb average would be enough too, but people still love to claim Croatian, Bosnian and Serbian Serbs aren't the same people, so let those averages stay and prove them wrong.

As I already said, I am ok just to be general Serbian and general Croatian average. Nothing more.

But to get #1 Dalmatian Croat, and still be far closer to Serbian general average than Croatian general average is not ok.

[Insuperable]

Because all B&H Croats could be in one average.
Are there separate average for Bosnian Serbs and for Herzegovinian Serbs?
Tropolje is microregion in Bosnia-Herzegovina with less then 30.000 inhabitants.

Gotta agree with you here.

[Ljubic]

According to this Dalmatian Croats are three times colser to general Serb average than to general Croat average.

And user who thumb me down - get the fuck out from Serbian topic. RAUS!

Ah youve meant the averages. The samples themselves certainly arent useless.

[Jana]

Not my fault you didn't send new averages to Lukasz.
Vbnetkio made plenty, and I use these in my runs:

Serb_B&H,24.73,31.02,16.87,8.63,14.66,1.72,0.44,0.32,0.66 ,0.50,0.34,0.09,0.01
Serb_Croatia,25.17,30.44,16.79,9.03,14.86,1.33,0.7 2,0.32,0.54,0.30,0.41,0.07,0.02
Serb_Krajina,25.57,30.44,16.72,8.68,14.61,1.55,0.6 5,0.36,0.60,0.31,0.45,0.04,0.02
Montenegrin,25.00,25.68,18.39,9.99,16.90,1.95,0.26 ,0.25,0.66,0.50,0.23,0.11,0.08
Serb_Serbia,24.35,29.99,16.77,9.05,15.98,1.37,0.62 ,0.21,0.64,0.44,0.39,0.07,0.13
Serb,24.89,29.38,17.14,9.05,15.58,1.55,0.49,0.29,0 .67,0.45,0.35,0.09,0.06
Serb_Shopluk,23.50,27.64,18.07,9.25,17.09,1.63,0.6 5,0.12,1.05,0.38,0.47,0.23,0.10
Serb_Dalmatia,25.49,29.53,16.66,8.89,15.69,1.15,0. 67,0.19,0.73,0.56,0.34,0.08,0.04

I want to observe regional sub-structure, politics have no place in genetics.

[Jana]

this is how the new averages plot. south Croats, Bosniaks and Serbs form a cluster together. so of course some Serbs will get Croat as #1, and the opposite. all it takes is 1% or 2% more or less of a component.

What about with your news averages included?
Those I posted above, they aren't on Vahaduo.

Shows my clusters have justification, even Bosnia and Herzegovina don't plot overly similar, not to mention other regions.

[CommonSense]

The averages vbnetkhio gave seem pretty decent. They'll only get better if we get more legit samples: