So Celts were North Europeans after all?

[SharpFork]

I can't be bothered speculating until we have both G25, dating and location of the samples.

[Lucas]

my bet is that the northern shifted ones are from a site further north. but apparently the french didn't changed much since the gauls.

I think it's true logically. But wait.

[Lucas]

I can't be bothered speculating until we have both G25, dating and location of the samples.

Should be added this evening.

[Raizen]

I think it's true logically. But wait.

will we have frankish-era samples??

[Lucas]

will we have frankish-era samples??

Not in this dataset. Younger are Iron age Gauls.

[Peterski]

These samples are from:

https://www.inrap.fr/ancestra-10433

[Lucas]

These samples are from:

https://www.inrap.fr/ancestra-10433

Le projet ANCESTRA a pour but de retracer le peuplement du territoire correspondant à la France de nos jours en étudiant l’impact de chaque vague de migration depuis le Néolithique jusqu’à l’époque Mérovingienne.

Analyse paléogénétique d'ossements humains datés du Néolithique au haut Moyen Âge provenant du Languedoc-Roussillon, d'Alsace et de Picardie.

So West German shifted from Alsace, British and Scandic shifted from Picardie and Italian shifted from Languedoc? If it would be so easy? So not great change since those times.

Also we should expect Frankish too...

[SharpFork]

I guess this time they are not Rhaetians but actual Basques/Iberians, lol

[Peterski]

I sent also Bronze Age samples to Davidski:

BIS130
BIS385
EUG11
NIED
OBE3626-1
OBE3722
PIR3037AB
PIR3116B
PSS4170
QUIN234
QUIN58
RIX15
RIX2
RIX4

And here their Eurogenes K15 results:

Attachment 97876

[Peterski]

There are two new French Bell Beakers in this paper as well, here is one of them already in G25:

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,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Bell_Beaker_FRA:CBV95,0.0122,0.0115,0.0127,0.0264, 0.0066,0.0141,0.0005,0.0017,-0.0121,-0.0172,0.007,0.0014,-0.0001,-0.0116,0.0282,-0.0023,-0.0048,-0.0014,-0.0037,0.0034,0.0006,-0.0055,0.0031,0.008,-0.0038