Croat K13 regional (and national) averages

[Leto]

#proud

Feiichy is a lighter girl compared to you

[MoroLP]

What is the current regional average, distance, and single for the region of Istria and what is the sample size (4)?

If am not mistaken, we have four samples, three from Southwestern Chakavian-Shtokavian ikavian dialect, and one from Northern Chakavian ekavian dialect.

[Jana]

^^^^

8. Istria (sample size=4)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istria

North_Atlantic 25.69
Baltic 30.12
West_Med 16.73
West_Asian 9.05
East_Med 14.82
Red_Sea 1.68
South_Asian 0.21
East_Asian 0.47
Siberian 0.15
Amerindian 0.11
Oceanian 0.33
Northeast_African 0.08
Sub-Saharan 0.02

Spoiler!

Distance to: Croat_Istria

1.28316016 Serb_B&H
1.37804209 Serb
1.59818647 Bosniak
1.66069263 Serb_Croatia
1.83125640 Serb_Serbia
2.38323310 Croat_Dalmatia
2.60474567 Croat_Herzegovina
2.70630301 Bosniak_Sarajevo
2.96123285 Croat_BiH
3.14254674 Croat_Tropolje
3.31495098 Serb_Belgrade
3.47047547 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.76142260 Croat_Bosnia
3.85048049 Romania_Moldavia_average
3.98865892 Moldova_Centre
4.24976470 Croat_Lika-Senj
4.47299676 Moldova_average
4.72082620 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.91365444 Bulgarian_Pleven
5.11121316 Szekely_Hungarian
5.27978219 Romanian_Transylvania
5.28038824 Moldova_North
5.88161542 Croat
6.17460120 Montenegrin
6.33160327 Bosniak_Sandzak

Southern most shifted Croat average so far, and quite heterogenous even on small sample size thus reflecting complex demographic history of Istrian peninsula

[MoroLP]

^^^^

8. Istria (sample size=4)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istria

North_Atlantic 25.69
Baltic 30.12
West_Med 16.73
West_Asian 9.05
East_Med 14.82
Red_Sea 1.68
South_Asian 0.21
East_Asian 0.47
Siberian 0.15
Amerindian 0.11
Oceanian 0.33
Northeast_African 0.08
Sub-Saharan 0.02

Spoiler!

Distance to: Croat_Istria

1.28316016 Serb_B&H
1.37804209 Serb
1.59818647 Bosniak
1.66069263 Serb_Croatia
1.83125640 Serb_Serbia
2.38323310 Croat_Dalmatia
2.60474567 Croat_Herzegovina
2.70630301 Bosniak_Sarajevo
2.96123285 Croat_BiH
3.14254674 Croat_Tropolje
3.31495098 Serb_Belgrade
3.47047547 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.76142260 Croat_Bosnia
3.85048049 Romania_Moldavia_average
3.98865892 Moldova_Centre
4.24976470 Croat_Lika-Senj
4.47299676 Moldova_average
4.72082620 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.91365444 Bulgarian_Pleven
5.11121316 Szekely_Hungarian
5.27978219 Romanian_Transylvania
5.28038824 Moldova_North
5.88161542 Croat
6.17460120 Montenegrin
6.33160327 Bosniak_Sandzak

Southern most shifted Croat average so far, and quite heterogenous even on small sample size thus reflecting complex demographic history of Istrian peninsula

Thank you. From Istrapedia, translated:

"Along with the devastation of cities and villages, disturbances in the demographic sense were also plague epidemics (in the 14th century 12 times, in the 14th century 14 times, and in the 16th century 16 times), and then from the end of the 15th century and endemic malaria in parts of cities on the west coast (Pula, Porec, Novigrad, Piran) and natural disasters (harsh and long winters, hailstorms and strong summer storms) that at the end of the 15th century and during the 16th century caused troubles and years of famine. The Austrian and Venetian authorities therefore, during the 15th century and the 16th century persistently colonized the desolate parts of Istria with the population mostly coming from areas suffering from Ottoman military pressure (mostly from Croatia, Dalmatia, Herzegovina and Bosnia, and to a lesser extent from Montenegro, Albania and the Venetian heritage of the Byzantine ruin - eg. Nauplion, Malvasia and Cyprus) or smaller groups and individuals from Italy (Veneto and Friuli) and Austrian countries (Carnia and Carniola). Just as the Venetian authorities attracted the settlers by giving them privileges, so did the Austrian archdukees lure them with the privileges of being released from feudal benefits for a fixed period."

As said it is observed close connection with Dalmatia, Herzegovina and Bosnia, and due to other ethnicities contribution (Montenegrin, Albanian, North and Southern Italian) it is expected to be diverse and additionally Southern shifted. As well, different dialects and villages & municipalities most probably have different averages.

NA ranges from 21 to almost 32 while Baltic from almost 25 to 35, and this is only on a biased and localized sample size of 4. Incredible.

[Jana]

Here is average of Croats who are regional mix of Dalmatia and BiH I made, it won't be added to Vahaduo. Sample size 6.

Croat_Dalmatia/BiH_Mix,27.61,29.78,17.12,8.32,13.05,2.15,0.11,0.1 4,0.26,0.94,0.44,0.00,0.00

Spoiler!

Distance to: Croat_Dalmatia/BiH_Mix

2.69681293 Croat_Dalmatia
3.18824403 Serb_B&H
3.19590363 Croat_Tropolje
3.24983076 Bosniak
3.34563895 Croat_Bosnia
3.49635525 Serb_Croatia
3.58928962 Serb
3.62840185 Croat_BiH
4.13329167 Szekely_Hungarian
4.29542780 Croat_Herzegovina
4.48039835 Bosniak_Sarajevo
4.51496401 Croat_Lika-Senj
4.54763675 Croat
4.61907999 Serb_Serbia
4.95810448 Croat_Croatia
5.06121527 Csango_Gymes
5.11905265 Moldova_North
5.24604613 Croat_Zagreb
6.03097007 Romania_Moldavia_average
6.08657539 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.10472057 Slovenian
6.26739180 Hungarian
6.36963107 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.89983333 Moldova_average
7.00239245 Romanian_Transylvania

[Jana]

Updated averages with new kits I received this week. Extremely slight changes.

Croat_Herzegovina,25.32,32.45,15.63,8.46,14.03,1.2 1,0.42,0.17,0.56,0.46,0.37,0.00,0.00
(sample size 33)

Croat_Bosnia,26.68,32.63,15.43,7.16,13.90,1.71,0.6 3,0.07,0.69,0.32,0.37,0.00,0.00
(sample size 9)

Croat_Tropolje,26.15,31.62,15.89,9.10,13.29,1.46,0 .37,0.54,0.42,0.64,0.09,0.00,0.00
(sample size 8)

Croat Lika-Senj,26.49,32.99,15.37,7.24,13.13,1.81,0.33,0.34,0 .57,0.33,0.39,0.00,0.00
(sample size 13)

[Jana]

9. Gorski kotar (sample size=24)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorski_Kotar

Collected from: Lič, Čabar, Delnice, Vrbovsko, Mrkopalj municipalities

North Atlantic 30.20
Baltic 32.50
West_Med 14.46
West_Asian 7.52
East_Med 10.28
Red_Sea 1.14
South_Asian 0.67
East_Asian 0.32
Siberian 0.53
Amerindian 0.48
Oceanian 0.24
Northeast_African 0.14
Sub-Saharan 0.11

Unsuprisingly closest to Slovenians. I was very fortunate to get my hands on all these samples

Spoiler!

Distance to: Croat_Gorski_Kotar

1.76055157 Slovenian
2.10202284 Hungarian
2.10283142 Croat_Croatia
2.13478336 Croat_Zagreb
2.42266382 Croat_Central_Croatia
2.58443417 Croat
3.76879291 Szekely_Hungarian
4.10749315 Hungarian_East
4.42758399 Croat_Zagorje
4.86972278 Croat_Bosnia
4.88982617 Moldova_North
4.96096765 Croat_Lika-Senj
5.44334456 Croat_BiH
5.47483333 Csango_Hungarian
5.61244154 Croat_Tropolje
5.61335258 Slovak
6.32263394 Hungarian_Transdanubia
6.60327192 Croat_Herzegovina
6.68898348 Croat_Dalmatia
6.74512416 Bosniak
6.85382929 Bosniak_Sarajevo
7.09764750 Czech
7.26634709 Serb_B&H
7.80444745 Austrian
7.90201873 Croat_Istria

Starčević from Lič is ofcourse part of this average, but as I predicted other samples I got are quite different from his results.

[Leto]

9. Gorski kotar (sample size=24)

Quite similar to Hrvoje.

[Mingle]

I'm not sure if you made one for Northwest Croats, but I did one some time back. Its comprised of results I found on this forum. They are five samples: Hrvoje, ph2ter & his wife, a Croat from Sambor, and another Croat from Koprivnica. Hrvoje and the Croat from Koprivnica mentioned they were mixed (with stuff like Czech or Slovene or whatever) but I assume that's normal for NW Croats and their mixture doesn't seem to be recent, so I included them. So you can decide if its reliable.

Anyways, the sample size is 5:

Croat_Northwest,31.65,32.88,13.00,8.90,9.33,1.07,0.63,0.22,0.22,1.17,0.31,0.00,0.09

[Insuperable]

Hello detective Mingle.