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    My results from vahaduo K13:




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    Family Rondović from Žabljak in northern Montenegro (btw the highest town in Balkan 1456 m).

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    I managed to find a couple of kits of apparently pure or almost pure Balkan Gypsies. There's been some talk of this lately, so I believe some of you may find this interesting:

    Žilić:

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    Savić:

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    Hidanović:

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    Ferhatović:

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    I managed to find a couple of kits of apparently pure or almost pure Balkan Gypsies. There's been some talk of this lately, so I believe some of you may find this interesting:
    Fantastic post, thank you!
    But HarappaWorld is better for Gypsies 'cause it has a Romani reference (Romanian-b). I'm just too lazy at the moment to run 'em all through HW. But great stuff anyway

    They all are between 25 and 30% South_Asian which is completely in line with what we knew previously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Fantastic post, thank you!
    But HarappaWorld is better for Gypsies 'cause it has a Romani reference (Romanian-b). I'm just too lazy at the moment to run 'em all through HW. But great stuff anyway

    They all are between 25 and 30% South_Asian which is completely in line with what we knew previously.
    It'd be more interesting to compare them with other populations in vahaduo, but that's ever more grueling work. Considering what they score, I think it's best to model them as Chamar + Bulgarian/Macedonian + Armenian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    It'd be more interesting to compare them with other populations in vahaduo, but that's ever more grueling work. Considering what they score, I think it's best to model them as Chamar + Bulgarian/Macedonian + Armenian.
    Yeah and that must be the reason why they're so dark. Imagine someone who is a mix of South Indian, Armenian and Bulgarian in equal proportions. Chances are that person is going to be much darker than any European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Fantastic post, thank you!
    But HarappaWorld is better for Gypsies 'cause it has a Romani reference (Romanian-b). I'm just too lazy at the moment to run 'em all through HW. But great stuff anyway

    They all are between 25 and 30% South_Asian which is completely in line with what we knew previously.
    Okay, so I actually went and calculated the average for every single one of their components - all 11 samples I posted here were used. This is what I got:

    Romani_Gypsy,9.73,9.53,12.55,16.84,18.44,2.86,26.4 3,1.28,0.92,0.27,0.61,0.45,0.09

    Modelling this through vahaduo using the populations I previously mentioned actually gets you a very low distance! Keep in mind this Indian group is the lowest caste of them all:


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    Very cool. They seem to be only ca. 1/3 South Indian as previously suggested.

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    I've run them through HarappaWorld, will probably do an nMonte model as well later

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    Balkan_Gypsy,21.32,15.71,24.40,14.66,1.03,0.76,0.2 5,0.54,0.32,0.26,13.74,6.83,0,0.05,0.08,0.03
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    Highly likely I found results of this Serb from Montenegro. Y-dna E-V13, mtdna N1b1

    https://www.google.hr/search?q=bojan...w=1536&bih=745

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    1 Baltic 26.81
    2 North_Atlantic 22.78
    3 West_Med 19.04
    4 East_Med 18.03
    5 West_Asian 10.86
    6 Oceanian 1.27
    7 Red_Sea 0.7
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.24
    9 Amerindian 0.23
    10 South_Asian 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    1 Romanian 3.8
    2 Bulgarian 3.88
    3 Serbian 5.81
    4 Moldavian 9.95
    5 Greek_Thessaly 12.27
    6 Croatian 12.74
    7 Hungarian 13.36
    8 Austrian 16.23
    9 North_Italian 17.01
    10 Tuscan 17.36
    11 East_German 17.81
    12 Italian_Abruzzo 18.84
    13 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.18
    14 Central_Greek 19.19
    15 South_Polish 19.98
    16 West_Sicilian 20.12
    17 Ukrainian 20.32
    18 West_German 20.52
    19 East_Sicilian 20.56
    20 French 20.96

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    1 80.5% Bulgarian + 19.5% Croatian @ 2.43
    2 87.1% Bulgarian + 12.9% Ukrainian @ 2.49
    3 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% Moldavian @ 2.55
    4 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Polish @ 2.55
    5 87.2% Bulgarian + 12.8% South_Polish @ 2.56
    6 86.7% Bulgarian + 13.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.57
    7 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Lithuanian @ 2.63
    8 90.1% Bulgarian + 9.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.66
    9 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Estonian @ 2.67
    10 90% Bulgarian + 10% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.67
    11 90.5% Bulgarian + 9.5% Belorussian @ 2.71
    12 89.6% Bulgarian + 10.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.78
    13 89.8% Bulgarian + 10.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.82
    14 87.1% Bulgarian + 12.9% East_German @ 2.86
    15 91.6% Bulgarian + 8.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.88
    16 91.4% Bulgarian + 8.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.89
    17 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Finnish @ 2.91
    18 92.6% Bulgarian + 7.4% East_Finnish @ 2.95
    19 83.9% Bulgarian + 16.1% Hungarian @ 2.97
    20 51% Greek_Thessaly + 49% Croatian @ 3.05

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