DNA test results of Chris596

[Chris596]

Thank you everyone for the answers! Yeah I guess I am very distant from original Hungarians. One thing is sure: we have always been a very simple family, working class, so thinking about it, my result are not so surprising now.

[Ion Basescul]

Yeah I guess I am very distant from original Hungarians.

Autosomally, most people are distant from the original elites. But E-V13 was found in Hungarian Conquerors.

Conqueror periodK1/13 Karos I/13 895- mid Xth c. M215 V13 E1b1b

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...997v1.full.pdf

[Chris596]

Now I'm creating a thread about my admixture results and different interesting websites. In those I usually get between 10 and 24 percent West-Asian, I don't know why though. Maybe Myheritage messed up this part?

[Kyp]

Now I'm creating a thread about my admixture results and different interesting websites. In those I usually get between 10 and 24 percent West-Asian, I don't know why though. Maybe Myheritage messed up this part?

I think some West Asian already is included in the Balkan component

[Impaler]

Your K13 and k12b on Vahaduo:


Distance to: Chris596_K13
3.07429667 Serb_Serbia
3.41593325 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.50615174 Serb
3.56098301 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
3.71216918 Romania_Moldavia_average
3.71474091 Serb_Croatia
3.73577301 Serb_Herzegovina
3.75217270 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
3.76512948 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
3.82555878 Serb_Serbia_South&East
3.82898159 Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
3.84419042 Moldova_Centre
4.33033486 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.34477848 Moldova_average
4.53433567 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.56758142 Bosniak
4.69849976 Serb_B&H_Krajina
4.71746754 Romanian_Transylvania
4.89528344 Serb_B&H
5.06457330 Bosniak_Sarajevo
5.32372990 Croat_Split
5.33772423 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
5.74744291 Montenegrin
5.80947502 Bulgarian_Sofia
5.84596442 Romanian_Oltenia


Target: Chris596_K13
Distance: 2.0449% / 2.04488908 | ADC: 0.25x
70.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
17.6 Pomak_Plovdiv
9.8 Macedonian_Greece
2.2 Bosniak_Tuzla
0.4 Dai


Distance to: Chris596_K12b
5.91297725 Romanians
6.53159246 Macedonian
6.87491091 Bosnian
6.88148966 Pomak
7.66978487 Croat
7.94051006 Bulgarians
8.04980124 Bulgarian
10.17477272 Gagauz
12.14235562 Albanian_North
12.84259320 Turk_Romania
13.02103299 Hungarians
13.28316212 Italy_FriuliVG
13.41330683 Turk_Bulgaria
13.45176940 Albanian_Kosovo
15.05067108 Turk_Greece
15.23754902 Turk_Macedonia
15.52394795 Italy_Trentino
15.65429262 Italy_Veneto
17.02204049 Swiss_Italian
17.51813643 Italy_Piedmont
18.14812670 Italy_Aosta_Valley
18.92031367 Italy_Lombardy
19.24409780 German
19.56522139 Italy_Liguria
19.71423067 Italy_Emilia

Target: Chris596_K12b
Distance: 1.6277% / 1.62767438 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Croat
40.8 Bulgarians
6.4 Romanians
5.2 Italy_Trentino
0.4 JPT30

[Dunai]

Now I'm creating a thread about my admixture results and different interesting websites. In those I usually get between 10 and 24 percent West-Asian, I don't know why though. Maybe Myheritage messed up this part?

MyHeritage is often very off with estimating East-Central Europeans. Even if 23andMe is much more expensive, but they are way more accurate in determining from which regions you inherited your genes from. Looking at your K13 results I don't think you would get more than 20-25% Balkan on 23andMe. I haven't seen a full Székely get more than 20% Balkan on 23andMe. As a comparison I get 28.5% Balkan on MyHeritage and 8% on 23andMe.

[Ion Basescul]

MyHeritage is often very off with estimating East-Central Europeans. Even if 23andMe is much more expensive, but they are way more accurate in determining from which regions you inherited your genes from. Looking at your K13 results I don't think you would get more than 20-25% Balkan on 23andMe. I haven't seen a full Székely get more than 20% Balkan on 23andMe. As a comparison I get 28.5% Balkan on MyHeritage and 8% on 23andMe.

If not under Balkan then it will fall under South European. But we both know that this doesn't mean Italian or Spanish in the case of Hungarians.

Chris' K13

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.12
2 North_Atlantic 24.09
3 East_Med 17.62
4 West_Med 16.39
5 West_Asian 9.84
6 East_Asian 1.64
7 Sub-Saharan 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.89
2 Romanian 5.87
3 Bulgarian 6.94
4 Moldavian 7.53
5 Croatian 9.77
6 Hungarian 10.72
7 Austrian 14.38
8 East_German 15.65
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.73
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.06
11 South_Polish 16.52
12 Ukrainian 16.92
13 North_Italian 19.81
14 West_German 19.83
15 Southwest_Russian 19.9
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.1
17 Polish 20.13
18 Tuscan 20.61
19 French 21.39
20 South_Dutch 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.2% Bulgarian + 27.8% Ukrainian @ 2.62
2 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% South_Polish @ 2.63
3 78.1% Bulgarian + 21.9% Belorussian @ 2.67
4 81.1% Bulgarian + 18.9% Lithuanian @ 2.72
5 77.7% Bulgarian + 22.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.76
6 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Polish @ 2.81
7 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.87
8 81% Bulgarian + 19% Estonian @ 2.87
9 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.92
10 76.1% Bulgarian + 23.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.99
11 59.8% Bulgarian + 40.2% Croatian @ 3.03
12 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.16
13 81.6% Bulgarian + 18.4% Finnish @ 3.32
14 61.7% Ukrainian + 38.3% South_Italian @ 3.33
15 51.9% Greek_Thessaly + 48.1% Ukrainian @ 3.37
16 57.5% Ukrainian + 42.5% Central_Greek @ 3.38
17 51.3% Greek_Thessaly + 48.7% South_Polish @ 3.41
18 80.6% Romanian + 19.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.5
19 82.4% Bulgarian + 17.6% East_Finnish @ 3.51
20 80.8% Romanian + 19.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.52

My K13

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.33
2 North_Atlantic 25.27
3 West_Med 15.21
4 East_Med 13.04
5 West_Asian 9.95
6 Siberian 2.85
7 East_Asian 1.83
8 Red_Sea 1.42
9 South_Asian 0.7
10 Oceanian 0.4


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.31
2 Moldavian 5.04
3 Romanian 7.02
4 Croatian 7.86
5 Hungarian 8.13
6 Bulgarian 9.24
7 Austrian 11.88
8 East_German 13.07
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.8
10 South_Polish 14.54
11 Ukrainian 15.09
12 West_German 17.6
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.77
14 Polish 18.25
15 Southwest_Russian 18.34
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.59
17 South_Dutch 19.05
18 Tatar 19.21
19 French 19.66
20 North_Italian 20.22


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Serbian + 16.9% Tatar @ 1.87
2 88% Serbian + 12% Chuvash @ 1.97
3 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% Mari @ 2.25
4 79.3% Romanian + 20.7% East_Finnish @ 2.33
5 76.6% Romanian + 23.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.48
6 78.8% Romanian + 21.2% Finnish @ 2.58
7 55.7% Serbian + 44.3% Moldavian @ 2.65
8 87.2% Serbian + 12.8% Erzya @ 2.66
9 61.2% Ukrainian + 38.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.71
10 73.3% Bulgarian + 26.7% Finnish @ 2.73
11 60.5% Moldavian + 39.5% Romanian @ 2.77
12 86.8% Serbian + 13.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.82
13 83.8% Moldavian + 16.2% Tuscan @ 2.83
14 67.8% Romanian + 32.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.83
15 84.9% Moldavian + 15.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.86
16 69.8% Romanian + 30.2% Ukrainian @ 2.86
17 79.4% Romanian + 20.6% Estonian @ 2.88
18 74.2% Bulgarian + 25.8% East_Finnish @ 2.91
19 71.7% Bulgarian + 28.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.91
20 51.7% Tuscan + 48.3% Erzya @ 2.93

My 23andme, 43% Balkan


MyHeritage, 88% Balkan

[Kamilla13]

That's really cool! Nothing, I'm just trying to understand it right now but I'm very tired.

Edit: I mean, I expected to get mostly Balkan, but not this much lol. Almost like I'm fully Serbian or Albanian haha.

Hmmm, not really.

My Heritage lists Balkan as Eastern E.

I got roughly 70 % Balkan on there, but on Ancestry I'm almost 50% EE 50 % Balkan.

Proper Balkanites score a significant % Greece and Italy on MH.

So, you need more testing .

[Dunai]

If not under Balkan then it will fall under South European. But we both know that this doesn't mean Italian or Spanish in the case of Hungarians.

Chris' K13

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.12
2 North_Atlantic 24.09
3 East_Med 17.62
4 West_Med 16.39
5 West_Asian 9.84
6 East_Asian 1.64
7 Sub-Saharan 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.89
2 Romanian 5.87
3 Bulgarian 6.94
4 Moldavian 7.53
5 Croatian 9.77
6 Hungarian 10.72
7 Austrian 14.38
8 East_German 15.65
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.73
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.06
11 South_Polish 16.52
12 Ukrainian 16.92
13 North_Italian 19.81
14 West_German 19.83
15 Southwest_Russian 19.9
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.1
17 Polish 20.13
18 Tuscan 20.61
19 French 21.39
20 South_Dutch 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.2% Bulgarian + 27.8% Ukrainian @ 2.62
2 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% South_Polish @ 2.63
3 78.1% Bulgarian + 21.9% Belorussian @ 2.67
4 81.1% Bulgarian + 18.9% Lithuanian @ 2.72
5 77.7% Bulgarian + 22.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.76
6 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Polish @ 2.81
7 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.87
8 81% Bulgarian + 19% Estonian @ 2.87
9 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.92
10 76.1% Bulgarian + 23.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.99
11 59.8% Bulgarian + 40.2% Croatian @ 3.03
12 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.16
13 81.6% Bulgarian + 18.4% Finnish @ 3.32
14 61.7% Ukrainian + 38.3% South_Italian @ 3.33
15 51.9% Greek_Thessaly + 48.1% Ukrainian @ 3.37
16 57.5% Ukrainian + 42.5% Central_Greek @ 3.38
17 51.3% Greek_Thessaly + 48.7% South_Polish @ 3.41
18 80.6% Romanian + 19.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.5
19 82.4% Bulgarian + 17.6% East_Finnish @ 3.51
20 80.8% Romanian + 19.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.52

My K13

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.33
2 North_Atlantic 25.27
3 West_Med 15.21
4 East_Med 13.04
5 West_Asian 9.95
6 Siberian 2.85
7 East_Asian 1.83
8 Red_Sea 1.42
9 South_Asian 0.7
10 Oceanian 0.4


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.31
2 Moldavian 5.04
3 Romanian 7.02
4 Croatian 7.86
5 Hungarian 8.13
6 Bulgarian 9.24
7 Austrian 11.88
8 East_German 13.07
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.8
10 South_Polish 14.54
11 Ukrainian 15.09
12 West_German 17.6
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.77
14 Polish 18.25
15 Southwest_Russian 18.34
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.59
17 South_Dutch 19.05
18 Tatar 19.21
19 French 19.66
20 North_Italian 20.22


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.1% Serbian + 16.9% Tatar @ 1.87
2 88% Serbian + 12% Chuvash @ 1.97
3 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% Mari @ 2.25
4 79.3% Romanian + 20.7% East_Finnish @ 2.33
5 76.6% Romanian + 23.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.48
6 78.8% Romanian + 21.2% Finnish @ 2.58
7 55.7% Serbian + 44.3% Moldavian @ 2.65
8 87.2% Serbian + 12.8% Erzya @ 2.66
9 61.2% Ukrainian + 38.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.71
10 73.3% Bulgarian + 26.7% Finnish @ 2.73
11 60.5% Moldavian + 39.5% Romanian @ 2.77
12 86.8% Serbian + 13.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.82
13 83.8% Moldavian + 16.2% Tuscan @ 2.83
14 67.8% Romanian + 32.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.83
15 84.9% Moldavian + 15.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.86
16 69.8% Romanian + 30.2% Ukrainian @ 2.86
17 79.4% Romanian + 20.6% Estonian @ 2.88
18 74.2% Bulgarian + 25.8% East_Finnish @ 2.91
19 71.7% Bulgarian + 28.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.91
20 51.7% Tuscan + 48.3% Erzya @ 2.93

I just took another look at his East Med and West Med percentages on K13 and they are both 16-17, which is surely unprecedentedly high in any Hungarian result I have seen thus far on K13, even among Csángó and Székely. Now it would be interesting if someone would plot him on K15 PCA, but have a feeling Chris is even more Southern-shifted than Kökény.

[Chris596]

Hmmm, not really.

My Heritage lists Balkan as Eastern E.

I got roughly 70 % Balkan on there, but on Ancestry I'm almost 50% EE 50 % Balkan.

Proper Balkanites score a significant % Greece and Italy on MH.

So, you need more testing .

Yes indeed, but the strangest thing is that I didn't get any proper Eastern European at all