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    Quote Originally Posted by Arhat View Post
    Z93 exists in Spain and mostly comes from Alans/Sarmatians but some also from Jews or Arabs (they are low in it but still carry it). Where you got the prediction results?
    Morley and Yseq, from MyHeritage raw data newest chip.

    In Spain any r1a is quite strange, about 1.2% in all Spain, and 6.5% in Cantabria region, specifically in a valley called Pas (pasiegos) who have aroun 35% r1a, that is an isolated group of people who have very strange haplogroups comparing with the rest of Iberian peninsula. But I have not any (known) familiar link with that valley.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Morley and Yseq, from MyHeritage raw data newest chip.

    In Spain any r1a is quite strange, about 1.2% in all Spain, and 6.5% in Cantabria region, specifically in a valley called Pas (pasiegos) who have aroun 35% r1a, that is an isolated group of people who have very strange haplogroups comparing with the rest of Iberian peninsula. But I have not any (known) familiar link with that valley.
    Theoretically your R1a could also come from Celts who were in Central Europe in contact with Scythians. R1a-Z2125 exists in low frequencies also in Britain, Germany and most of Europe but today it is most frequent among Pashtuns, Kyrgyz and Tatars. But ultimately your R1a-Z2125 is from Proto-Iranics/Sintashta

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Morley and Yseq, from MyHeritage raw data newest chip.

    In Spain any r1a is quite strange, about 1.2% in all Spain, and 6.5% in Cantabria region, specifically in a valley called Pas (pasiegos) who have aroun 35% r1a, that is an isolated group of people who have very strange haplogroups comparing with the rest of Iberian peninsula. But I have not any (known) familiar link with that valley.
    Theoretically your R1a could also come from Celts who were in Central Europe in contact with Scythians. R1a-Z2125 exists in low frequencies also in Britain, Germany and most of Europe but today it is most frequent among Pashtuns, Kyrgyz and Tatars. But ultimately your R1a-Z2125 is from Proto-Iranics/Sintashta

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    This was my last prediction, made with raw data from Myheritage in this predictor https://cladefinder.yseq.net/ :



    And the first prediction was this one, in Morley´s predictor:


    Your clade is Scythian /Sarmatian/Alan. Visigoths absorbed many Sarmatians from Northern Balkans before they move to Spain. Alans also settled to Spain.
    My final clade (R-YP4768
    Distance: 0.013732
    25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067(Cretan/Aegean+some west Asian) + 25% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215 + 12.5% UKR_Cimmerian MJ12 (Dacian/Getae+some Cimmerian mix)+ 12.5% HUN_BA_o:SZ1(Pannonian-Scythian mix) + 12.5% Baltic_LVA_BA:Kivutkalns209 + 6.25% Baltic_EST_IA:0LS10_1 + 6.25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    I am also Z2125 suposedly, but my paternal side is form Andalucía, Spain, I cannot guess how r1a- Z2125 ended there. Before this subclade I was M417.

    My Z2125 comes from this man, could you see in he some Azerbaidjan vibe?

    Spoiler!
    He could also pass as typical Bashkir or Tatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arhat View Post
    Z93 exists in Spain and mostly comes from Alans/Sarmatians but some also from Jews or Arabs (they are low in it but still carry it). Where you got the prediction results?
    Just to get this straight. We are talking about a Turkic marker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arhat View Post
    Theoretically your R1a could also come from Celts who were in Central Europe in contact with Scythians. R1a-Z2125 exists in low frequencies also in Britain, Germany and most of Europe but today it is most frequent among Pashtuns, Kyrgyz and Tatars. But ultimately your R1a-Z2125 is from Proto-Iranics/Sintashta
    Sintashta has no Iranian connection. It's a Volga-Turkic gene pool, also known as Steppe_MLBA. Stop claiming Turkic genes for your agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanais View Post
    Sintashta has no Iranian connection. It's a Volga-Turkic gene pool, also known as Steppe_MLBA. Stop claiming Turkic genes for your agenda.
    Sintashta is said to have been the proto-Indo-Iranic culture. And they were pretty much European racially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanais View Post
    Sintashta has no Iranian connection. It's a Volga-Turkic gene pool, also known as Steppe_MLBA. Stop claiming Turkic genes for your agenda.
    Thanks for revealing the truth to us. I guess it is just coincidence that Sintashta lacked Turkic dna, was caucasoid, shared R1a with Corded Ware, clustered with North Europeans and had his material culture borrowed from Corded Ware. Or maybe this is a conspiracy by people who are jealous on Turks and their "great" contributions to civilization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arhat View Post
    Thanks for revealing the truth to us. I guess it is just coincidence that Sintashta lacked Turkic dna, was caucasoid, shared R1a with Corded Ware, clustered with North Europeans and had his material culture borrowed from Corded Ware. Or maybe this is a conspiracy by people who are jealous on Turks and their "great" contributions to civilization.
    Carlos Quiles made an autosomal dna map. Get lost, looser. You can't claim other races dna anymore. Stay home in Jalalabad, where you belong to. Oh, wait. Dna maps are also conspiracy? See it? You lost your mind on this subject, because you are an indoctrinated looser. And indoctrinated people always suffer from delusion. Do you need any calm down pills now?

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