Croatian Eurogenes results

**Jana** · 04-15-2020, 08:18 AM

^^^^Actually it's Croats who are intermediate. Hungarians are fully central European, Croats around half.

Agree for the overlap, it's massive, I didn't know it was that big until recently.

**Peterski** · 04-15-2020, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Est.1992

Hungarians are fully central European

It depends, for example this Szekler - H41**** (I'm not allowed to publish full kit #, but you know which one it is) - has a lot of Balkan admixture.

Another Szekler - H40**** - is more northern-shifted, but close to Carpathian Rusyns and Slovaks, who as you know have some Balkan genes too.

You don't count Szeklers as Hungarians?

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Also some Northern Moldovans can be close to Hungarians due to being a similar mix (only less Germanic).

But Southern Moldovans are much more Balkan and much less Slavic, so not close to any Hungarians at all.

**Jana** · 04-15-2020, 08:31 AM

What I meant is that Transylvania was considered central European historically. Or east-central, if you prefer.
Logically central region includes admixture from south, otherwise it isn't central.

**Scandal** · 04-17-2020, 10:46 AM

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**Leto** · 04-22-2020, 05:20 PM

Presumably a Croatian woman (Benedejcic)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.54
2 North_Atlantic 30.59
3 East_Med 15
4 West_Med 10.55
5 West_Asian 7.5
6 East_Asian 1.98
7 Amerindian 0.89
8 South_Asian 0.56
9 Oceanian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 5.39
2 Croatian 7.71
3 Serbian 8.09
4 Moldavian 8.44
5 Austrian 9.6
6 East_German 10.42
7 South_Polish 11.5
8 Romanian 11.84
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.42
10 Ukrainian 13.09
11 Bulgarian 14.11
12 Polish 15.25
13 West_German 15.78
14 Southwest_Russian 15.94
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.25
16 South_Dutch 17.43
17 Russian_Smolensk 17.51
18 North_German 17.83
19 Estonian_Polish 17.94
20 Belorussian 17.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.3% Serbian + 22.7% La_Brana-1 @ 4.4
2 94.3% Hungarian + 5.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.54
3 67.9% Romanian + 32.1% La_Brana-1 @ 4.65
4 95% Hungarian + 5% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.72
5 95.7% Hungarian + 4.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.74
6 95.1% Hungarian + 4.9% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.75
7 95.3% Hungarian + 4.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.79
8 95.1% Hungarian + 4.9% Palestinian @ 4.79
9 95.2% Hungarian + 4.8% Samaritan @ 4.8
10 92.6% Hungarian + 7.4% Ashkenazi @ 4.81
11 95.2% Hungarian + 4.8% Assyrian @ 4.81
12 95.2% Hungarian + 4.8% Jordanian @ 4.84
13 95% Hungarian + 5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.86
14 94.9% Hungarian + 5.1% Cyprian @ 4.86
15 85.3% Hungarian + 14.7% Bulgarian @ 4.88
16 78.2% South_Polish + 21.8% Italian_Jewish @ 4.89
17 95.5% Hungarian + 4.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.89
18 95.4% Hungarian + 4.6% Syrian @ 4.93
19 57.3% Bulgarian + 42.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.95
20 95.1% Hungarian + 4.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.96

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 28.84
2 Baltic 18.52
3 Eastern_Euro 12.92
4 Atlantic 11.8
5 East_Med 11.62
6 West_Med 7.29
7 West_Asian 6.57
8 Southeast_Asian 1.51
9 Amerindian 0.49
10 South_Asian 0.22
11 Oceanian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 7.96
2 Moldavian 10.91
3 Serbian 11.42
4 East_German 11.98
5 Croatian 12.31
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.77
7 Austrian 12.81
8 Ukrainian 13.44
9 South_Polish 13.86
10 Romanian 14.02
11 West_German 14.04
12 Finnish 14.87
13 Southwest_Finnish 15.21
14 North_Swedish 15.39
15 Polish 16.22
16 Swedish 16.46
17 North_German 16.83
18 South_Dutch 16.87
19 Bulgarian 16.91
20 Norwegian 17.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.4% Finnish + 39.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 7.33
2 93.8% Hungarian + 6.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 7.38
3 59.4% North_Swedish + 40.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 7.41
4 94.4% Hungarian + 5.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 7.47
5 94.3% Hungarian + 5.7% Assyrian @ 7.51
6 94.6% Hungarian + 5.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 7.53
7 94.7% Hungarian + 5.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 7.54
8 94.6% Hungarian + 5.4% Armenian @ 7.56
9 94.8% Hungarian + 5.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 7.59
10 95.8% Hungarian + 4.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 7.59
11 94.9% Hungarian + 5.1% Palestinian @ 7.61
12 94.8% Hungarian + 5.2% Jordanian @ 7.61
13 95.2% Hungarian + 4.8% Samaritan @ 7.63
14 94.9% Hungarian + 5.1% Iranian @ 7.63
15 94.9% Hungarian + 5.1% Kurdish @ 7.63
16 94.3% Hungarian + 5.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 7.64
17 94.8% Hungarian + 5.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 7.65
18 94.4% Hungarian + 5.6% Tabassaran @ 7.65
19 94.7% Hungarian + 5.3% Azeri @ 7.66
20 95% Hungarian + 5% Syrian @ 7.67

Population
Gedrosia 7.01 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.71 Pct
Atlantic_Med 26.38 Pct
North_European 45.02 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.85 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 16.02 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

**Jana** · 04-23-2020, 07:40 PM

^^^^More likely a Slovenian judging by the surname, but we can't be sure.

**Leto** · 05-04-2020, 07:14 PM

This is a response to Dushan. Feiichy's parents' results from Dodecad K12b Vahaduo (values taken from the thread about her parents' results)

# Population Percent
1 North_European 44.64
2 Atlantic_Med 26.29
3 Caucasus 17.87
4 Gedrosia 5.04
5 Southwest_Asian 4.18
6 Siberian 1.24
7 East_Asian 0.44
8 Southeast_Asian 0.23
9 Northwest_African 0.06

Distance to: Feiichy_Dad
2.18009174 Croat
3.06153556 Bosnian
4.32912231 R.Moldova_Centre+North
4.49046768 Hungarians
6.87530363 Serb
10.73525966 Montenegrin
11.65625583 German
12.95347058 Macedonian
13.79532167 Pomak
14.09667691 Romanians

Target: Feiichy_Dad
Distance: 1.7714% / 1.77136755 | ADC: 1x
89.2 Croat
10.8 Hungarians

Target: Feiichy_Dad
Distance: 1.0246% / 1.02459386 | ADC: 0.5x
83.2 Croat
13.6 Hungarians
3.2 Komi

Target: Feiichy_Dad
Distance: 0.7157% / 0.71568894 | ADC: 0.25x
77.4 Croat
18.2 Hungarians
2.2 Komi
1.8 Udmurt
0.2 Saudis
0.2 Tatar_Kazan

* * *

# Population Percent
1 North_European 42.51
2 Atlantic_Med 28.16
3 Caucasus 17.84
4 Gedrosia 5.17
5 Southwest_Asian 5.02
6 South_Asian 0.69
7 Siberian 0.29
8 Northwest_African 0.28

Distance to: Feiichy_Mom
2.28225765 Croat
3.13239525 Bosnian
4.51718939 R.Moldova_Centre+North
5.20710092 Serb
6.66642333 Hungarians
8.82232962 Montenegrin
11.10673219 Macedonian
11.68936269 German
12.40892421 Pomak
13.14820140 Romanians

Target: Feiichy_Mom
Distance: 1.5391% / 1.53907375 | ADC: 0.5x
93.0 Croat
5.4 French
1.6 Bosnian

Target: Feiichy_Mom
Distance: 0.7252% / 0.72524408 | ADC: 0.25x
85.8 Croat
5.8 French
4.2 Bosnian
3.0 Mixed_Germanic
1.2 Saudis

Looks pretty damn solid to me.

**Dušan** · 05-04-2020, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

I've checked that reference

Croat
4.59
0.41
0.4
0.31
27.14 Atlantic_Med
43.51 North_European
0.31
0.04
4.04
0.11
19.1
0.03

Not very Southern to me. You score 42% NE.

Did you find ph2ter result? He is good representative of huge percent of NW Croats.

Their national average is probably 45%, so I am not very close as you think.
To Bosnian yes, to Croatian not so much.

**Jana** · 05-04-2020, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

This is a response to Dushan. Feiichy's parents' results from Dodecad K12b Vahaduo (values taken from the thread about her parents' results)

# Population Percent
1 North_European 44.64
2 Atlantic_Med 26.29
3 Caucasus 17.87
4 Gedrosia 5.04
5 Southwest_Asian 4.18
6 Siberian 1.24
7 East_Asian 0.44
8 Southeast_Asian 0.23
9 Northwest_African 0.06

Distance to: Feiichy_Dad
2.18009174 Croat
3.06153556 Bosnian
4.32912231 R.Moldova_Centre+North
4.49046768 Hungarians
6.87530363 Serb
10.73525966 Montenegrin
11.65625583 German
12.95347058 Macedonian
13.79532167 Pomak
14.09667691 Romanians

Target: Feiichy_Dad
Distance: 1.7714% / 1.77136755 | ADC: 1x
89.2 Croat
10.8 Hungarians

Target: Feiichy_Dad
Distance: 1.0246% / 1.02459386 | ADC: 0.5x
83.2 Croat
13.6 Hungarians
3.2 Komi

Target: Feiichy_Dad
Distance: 0.7157% / 0.71568894 | ADC: 0.25x
77.4 Croat
18.2 Hungarians
2.2 Komi
1.8 Udmurt
0.2 Saudis
0.2 Tatar_Kazan

* * *

# Population Percent
1 North_European 42.51
2 Atlantic_Med 28.16
3 Caucasus 17.84
4 Gedrosia 5.17
5 Southwest_Asian 5.02
6 South_Asian 0.69
7 Siberian 0.29
8 Northwest_African 0.28

Distance to: Feiichy_Mom
2.28225765 Croat
3.13239525 Bosnian
4.51718939 R.Moldova_Centre+North
5.20710092 Serb
6.66642333 Hungarians
8.82232962 Montenegrin
11.10673219 Macedonian
11.68936269 German
12.40892421 Pomak
13.14820140 Romanians

Target: Feiichy_Mom
Distance: 1.5391% / 1.53907375 | ADC: 0.5x
93.0 Croat
5.4 French
1.6 Bosnian

Target: Feiichy_Mom
Distance: 0.7252% / 0.72524408 | ADC: 0.25x
85.8 Croat
5.8 French
4.2 Bosnian
3.0 Mixed_Germanic
1.2 Saudis

Looks pretty damn solid to me.

It's excellent average. My father is extremelly typical everywhere. And Croatian average isn''t 45% North European on that like Dušan claims, I am 44% and more northern shifted than average. My mother, who is more southern than dad and me is big part German by the way.

**Leto** · 05-04-2020, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Est.1992

It's excellent average. My father is extremelly typical everywhere. And Croatian average isn''t 45% North European on that like Dušan claims, I am 44% and more northern shifted than average. My mother, who is more southern than dad and me is big part German by the way.

Yep. The Serb average is 27.31 AM and 39.08 NE, so there is already a notable difference. I also think it's fine. Dushan just wants to distance himself from Croats as much as possible.