Pontic Greek Gedmatch results

[AncientGreek]

And what do you expect? He shows "European" and you don't believe him? You sound like the police haha.

Very suspcious of this result. Doesn't line up with any results I've ever seen. Maybe the region he's from is different, who knows. Could also have a NPE or something...

[Marmara]

Not overly atypical at all - you see some Pontians that are fairly light and others that look full Iranic. They are as diverse as any other people on the planet.

This has nothing to do with genetics. Those pontians with light features are still genetically Caucasian/Armenian. His results are very atypical for Pontian.

[xripkan]

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You have indeed higher East Med and Steppe/Indo-Europen ancestry than most Pontians we have seen. Your ancestry seems to be a mix of native Caucasian, Anatolian and Mycenaean-like/Hellenic with some extra Steppe/Indo-European input. You could be a mix of Pontian and Smyrniot or Islander.
Are you sure that all of your grandparents are from Pontus? I don't think it is imposible. As I told you we don't have many information about Western Pontus so we cannot tell for sure if these results are really atypical.

[AncientGreek]

OP share your K36 coordinates, they are very good at identifying Pontic Greeks.

For example, this guys run on standard K13 oracle:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1 	West_Asian 	38.79
2 	East_Med 	34.91
3 	West_Med 	15.24
4 	North_Atlantic 	4.06
5 	Red_Sea 	3.40
6 	Baltic 	2.49


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian @ 4.964693
2 Georgian_Jewish @ 8.529721
3 Assyrian @ 10.774966
4 Turkish @ 12.709867
5 Kurdish @ 13.562288
6 Azeri @ 14.244275
7 Kurdish_Jewish @ 14.989817
8 Iranian_Jewish @ 15.985811
9 Iranian @ 16.981003
10 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.374598
11 Georgian @ 19.710947
12 Cyprian @ 20.630198
13 Abhkasian @ 20.914104
14 Syrian @ 20.964319
15 Kumyk @ 22.360847
16 Lebanese_Druze @ 23.676897
17 Adygei @ 23.750498
18 Lebanese_Christian @ 23.923542
19 Balkar @ 24.871002
20 Ossetian @ 25.504896

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +50% Cyprian @ 4.245990


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +25% Cyprian +25% Georgian @ 4.004831


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Abhkasian + Armenian + Armenian + Cyprian @ 3.761790
2 Armenian + Armenian + Cyprian + Georgian @ 4.004831
3 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Cyprian @ 4.245990
4 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze @ 4.282678
5 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian @ 4.335544
6 Abhkasian + Armenian + Cyprian + Georgian_Jewish @ 4.468407
7 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Georgian + Lebanese_Druze @ 4.586637
8 Abhkasian + Armenian + Assyrian + Cyprian @ 4.635136
9 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Georgian + Lebanese_Christian @ 4.635209
10 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Cyprian + Georgian @ 4.734260
11 Armenian + Cyprian + Georgian + Georgian_Jewish @ 4.744938
12 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Samaritan @ 4.829273
13 Armenian + Assyrian + Cyprian + Georgian @ 4.952587
14 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Armenian @ 4.964693
15 Abhkasian + Armenian + Armenian + Lebanese_Christian @ 4.982151
16 Armenian + Armenian + Georgian + Lebanese_Christian @ 4.990697
17 Cyprian + Georgian + Georgian + Lebanese_Druze @ 5.048193
18 Abhkasian + Armenian + Armenian + Italian_Jewish @ 5.049139
19 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.060164
20 Cyprian + Georgian + Georgian + Lebanese_Christian @ 5.091162

Done.

Elapsed time 0.1524 seconds.

But then on K36:

Distance to:	PonticGreek_0057
5.28279282	Greek_Pontic
11.58782119	Caucasus_Jews
13.71781688	Turkey_average
14.66119368	Georgian_Laz
14.70483254	Turkish_Anatolia
14.76343456	Azeri_Jews
14.98752815	Assyrian
17.02445006	Armenian
17.52901309	Tatar_Crimea_Coast
17.95952394	Greek_Azov
18.25223000	Cyprus
19.30197658	Azeri_Kars&Igdir
19.42762724	Greek_Dodecanese
19.94122113	Greek_Chios
20.68232337	Greek_Ikaria
20.90315287	Greek_Kalymnos
20.96573395	Greek_Crete
21.12474615	Iraqi_Jews
21.89750899	Kurd
22.29146698	Ashkenazi_Eastern_Euro
22.29874884	Greek_Cyclades
22.43759791	Greek_Kythira
22.82541785	Azeri
23.31081509	Askhenazi
23.45286336	Italy_Calabria

[JohnnyP]

I have one old Greek from Macedonia region kit , but it seems Pontic.

"Greek Macedonian" results for puntDNAL K13

Kit Number: Z418934
Name: GreeceMaced1

1 Turkish_Trabzon @ 4.850202
2 Armenian @ 4.943121
3 Assyrian @ 6.664927
4 Lebanese_Druze @ 10.400541
5 Turkish_Kayseri @ 10.442624
6 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 10.446073
7 Lebanese_Muslim @ 11.090278
8 Lebanese_Christian @ 11.850492
9 Abkhasian @ 11.862915
10 Cypriot @ 11.916451
11 Syrian @ 12.244077
12 Turkish @ 12.708711
13 Kurdish @ 12.729999
14 Iranian @ 16.302404
15 Ossetian @ 16.326971
16 Dagestan_Azeri @ 17.420746
17 Turkish_Aydin @ 17.674520
18 Jordanian @ 17.760265
19 Balkar @ 18.509897
20 Samaritan_Jew @ 18.515850

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +50% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3.706778

[Rgvgjhvv]

Until he says or knows otherwise, we have to take his told ancestry seriously and consider that perhaps the regions part of his family is from is historically closer to Ionian Greek settlers. Perhaps the more east the more they are "Hellenized natives" but in the west are more "pure".

[Hapanuwa]

Very interesting results. It seems quite atypical. I guess that you have a Bulgarian/Balkan grandparent as well.

Could you provide us your results of the commercial DNA company you have tested with?

[Roman-Anatolian]

Very suspcious of this result. Doesn't line up with any results I've ever seen. Maybe the region he's from is different, who knows. Could also have a NPE or something...

I should have given from the beginning more information about my ancestry so people don't get confused. Actually, I was born in southern Russia on the black coast sea from both Pontian parents from Kerasounta and Trapezounta as I mentioned but as far as I know one of my great grandmothers from my father's side was Russian. I live in Thessaloniki since my childhood. I didn't mention that because many people don't want to discuss things when they here about rosopontians. My DNA results from MyHeritage was 52.5 west Asia 46.3 Greek 1.2 Ashkenazi.

[Rgvgjhvv]

[Roman-Anatolian]

Xalara .. mporeis na steileis kai ena print me ta apotelesmata tis eterias pu kanes to test?kai an den exis thema kai ton ari8mo kit apto ged?

File mou tha protimousa na mi steilw proswpika dedomena dimosia. Euxaristw pantws. Ta apotelesmata mou ta ekana apo to myheritage 52.5 dutiki Asia 46.3 Ellada kai 1.2 askenazi