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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaler View Post
    Hiding? What is so odd to plot close to Balkan Turks? Do I plot in the Middle Eastern or Africa? Why all the people should plot exactly in the average places?
    I'm just trying to understand why your raw data is plotting you there. Obviously there is a reason you don't plot near the average - not even close to the average. I don't understand why you're asking me why I am asking you questions We are here to learn about genetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    I thought that he would use the standard PCA, the one he's making seems very inaccurate.
    It's not inaccurate, it's the exact same data illustrated without the average populations. No different to plotting people on the original image then erasing the average pops in MSPaint to only show users.
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    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    True some are but off the pca coordinates he is using they are not, I think he is just trying to troll. According to the coordinates I plot with other Brits


    Why would I be trying to troll? I have never seen a German who plots like you is all I said. You don't plot with 100% Brits, you plot closer to Southern France than Brits which is not representative of British people. Bretons are already on the fringes but you are even distant to them. This is exactly what the data says, idk how it's a troll. Brits plot like this:

    This is you on the standard PCA image with average populations. You are closer to Basques and Southern French than any Brit or German, it's not how British people plot; way too far south. It's not a troll, its just me taking what you gave me and putting it there.

    For perspective I am half British half French with most of it coming from the SW and you, as a German, are closer to them than I. Never seen that before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Okay, you can add me too even though I don't partiularly care about that fucking old map

    Abscisse (x-axis): 559
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    Its not the old map, it's the same image dimensions but without averages to illustrate only users and their meta ethnicities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyoHazuki View Post
    It's not inaccurate, it's the exact same data illustrated without the average populations. No different to plotting people on the original image then erasing the average pops in MSPaint to only show users.
    It's true that pop. averages can be meaningless but they do give an "idea", without it it's very difficult to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyoHazuki View Post
    Why would I be trying to troll? I have never seen a German who plots like you is all I said. You don't plot with 100% Brits, you plot closer to Southern France than Brits which is not representative of British people. Bretons are already on the fringes but you are even distant to them. This is exactly what the data says, idk how it's a troll. Brits plot like this:

    This is you on the standard PCA image with average populations. You are closer to Basques and Southern French than any Brit or German, it's not how British people plot; way too far south. It's not a troll, its just me taking what you gave me and putting it there.

    For perspective I am half British half French with most of it coming from the SW and you, as a German, are closer to them than I. Never seen that before.
    Interesting, very Central/Northern French. I would say.

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    I don't like K15 and don't care much what it shows, but you can plot nevertheless.

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    Coordinates from last year, when it added up to 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    Interesting, very Central/Northern French. I would say.
    I would say this region is where most French will plot
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    x=521
    y=353
    Punt DNAL K15 Single Pop Sharing Tuscan 2.07
    Mixed Mode Pop Sharing: 65.1% Tuscan+34.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.41
    Eurogenes K 13 Single Pop Sharing Greek Thessaly 3.72
    Mixed Mode Pop Sharing 69.5% South_Italian+30.5% Hungarian @ 2.56
    MDLP K 16 Single Pop Sharing Greek (Greece) 3.62
    Mixed Mode Pop Sharing: 58.3% Greek (Macedonia)+41.7% Italian (Bergamo)@ 2.5

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