Macedonian Gedmatch kits - 28

[JohnnyP]

Who's the one sitting to the closest left hand side of the Bulgarian average, just above the 'B'? That person is literally smack bang on my position.

And are the Skopje - Florina samples people with ancestry from Lerin?

Yeah one of the Skopje-Lerin i think.

[JohnnyP]

can you rank these groups in order according to who is genetically closest to slavophone Macedonians?

Bulgarians
Macedonian Greeks
Aromanians/Vlachs
SE Serbs
Albanians
Wallachian/Dobrogean Romanians

From first 30 kits i posted Lincourt made average of Ghegs ,Romanians from Wallachia,Bulgarians and Macedonians ;

North Atlantic:

1. Ghegs 22.73
2. Macedonians 21.80
3. Bulgarians 21.75
4. Romanians 21.23

Baltic:

1. Bulgarians 24.06
2. Romanians 23.89
3. Macedonians 21.50
4. Ghegs 18.81

West Med:

1. Ghegs 21.39
2. Macedonians 19.69
3. Bulgarians 17.91
4. Romanians 17.23

West Asian:

1. Romanians 12.01
2. Bulgarians 11.91
3. Macedonians 10.97
4. Ghegs 10.51

East Med:

1. Ghegs 22.34
2. Macedonians 21.62
3. Bulgarians 20.12
4. Romanians 19.62


Red Sea:

1. Ghegs 2.67
2. Romanians 2.34
3. Macedonians 2.33
4. Bulgarians 1.93


East Asian:

1. Bulgarians 0.52
2. Romanians 0.50
3. Macedonians 0.39


Siberian:

1. Romanians 1.06
2. Macedonians 0.56
3. Bulgarians 0.43

I can say City like Kumanovo (North part close to Serbian border) which is Half Macedonian population mixed with Serbs there , i would say Half Kumanovo population clustering with SouthSerbs half with other Macedonians.
Everything West/South/East from Skopje regions/Cities are close to North part of country called Greece , Ghegs and to some Bulgarians ,because in general Macedonians plot West/Southwest/South or Northwest from Average Bulgaria on K15 PCA and most of Bulgarians plots East/Northeast/Southeast, from what i saw.

Btw I will make average with all kits , but thats alot of work i have close to 80-100 kits.

[CommonSense]

From first 30 kits i posted Lincourt made average of Ghegs ,Romanians from Wallachia,Bulgarians and Macedonians ;

North Atlantic:

1. Ghegs 22.73
2. Macedonians 21.80
3. Bulgarians 21.75
4. Romanians 21.23

Baltic:

1. Bulgarians 24.06
2. Romanians 23.89
3. Macedonians 21.50
4. Ghegs 18.81

West Med:

1. Ghegs 21.39
2. Macedonians 19.69
3. Bulgarians 17.91
4. Romanians 17.23

West Asian:

1. Romanians 12.01
2. Bulgarians 11.91
3. Macedonians 10.97
4. Ghegs 10.51

East Med:

1. Ghegs 22.34
2. Macedonians 21.62
3. Bulgarians 20.12
4. Romanians 19.62


Red Sea:

1. Ghegs 2.67
2. Romanians 2.34
3. Macedonians 2.33
4. Bulgarians 1.93


East Asian:

1. Bulgarians 0.52
2. Romanians 0.50
3. Macedonians 0.39


Siberian:

1. Romanians 1.06
2. Macedonians 0.56
3. Bulgarians 0.43

I can say City like Kumanovo (North part close to Serbian border) which is Half Macedonian population mixed with Serbs there , i would say Half Kumanovo population clustering with SouthSerbs half with other Macedonians.
Everything West/South/East from Skopje regions/Cities are close to North part of country called Greece , Ghegs and to some Bulgarians ,because in general Macedonians plot West/Southwest/South or Northwest from Average Bulgaria on K15 PCA and most of Bulgarians plots East/Northeast/Southeast, from what i saw.

Btw I will make average with all kits , but thats alot of work i have close to 80-100 kits.

Do you have any kits specifically from the Kumanovo municipality?

[JohnnyP]

Do you have any kits specifically from the Kumanovo municipality?

Specific kit no , there is Macedonian_North from K13 Updated is Macedonian from Kumanovo you can ask Kaspias.

Population	 
North_Atlantic	20.21 Pct
Baltic	24.00 Pct
West_Med	21.25 Pct
West_Asian	10.02 Pct
East_Med	21.18 Pct
Red_Sea	2.53 Pct
South_Asian	-
East_Asian	0.81 Pct
Siberian	-    
Amerindian	-    
Oceanian	-
Northeast_African	-
Sub-Saharan	-

I have from region between Kumanovo and Tetovo and one kit between Kumanovo and Kriva Palanka/Kratovo.

[JohnnyP]

Who's the one sitting to the closest left hand side of the Bulgarian average, just above the 'B'? That person is literally smack bang on my position.

And are the Skopje - Florina samples people with ancestry from Lerin?

Btw yeah thats two sisters , with mother from Florina and Father from Skopje.

[CommonSense]

Specific kit no , there is Macedonian_North from K13 Updated is Macedonian from Kumanovo you can ask Kaspias.

Population	 
North_Atlantic	20.21 Pct
Baltic	24.00 Pct
West_Med	21.25 Pct
West_Asian	10.02 Pct
East_Med	21.18 Pct
Red_Sea	2.53 Pct
South_Asian	-
East_Asian	0.81 Pct
Siberian	-    
Amerindian	-    
Oceanian	-
Northeast_African	-
Sub-Saharan	-

I have from region between Kumanovo and Tetovo and one kit between Kumanovo and Kriva Palanka/Kratovo.

OK. I haven't seen any results even from Kosovo and Southern Serbia like that. Though, to be fair, none of the kits were from places particularly close to the border like Vranje, Bujanovac or Trgovište.

[Vojnik]

OK. I haven't seen any results even from Kosovo and Southern Serbia like that. Though, to be fair, none of the kits were from places particularly close to the border like Vranje, Bujanovac or Trgovište.

Would be good to see some results from Pcinja.

[JohnnyP]

OK. I haven't seen any results even from Kosovo and Southern Serbia like that. Though, to be fair, none of the kits were from places particularly close to the border like Vranje, Bujanovac or Trgovište.

Vranje is most Southern place of Serbia , i think results will be close to South Montenegrins.
Btw i just got kit from Tetovo thats just 60 km west from Kumanovo.

A154390 - Tetovo
This also score South_Asian

North_Atlantic	22.35 Pct
Baltic	23.26 Pct
West_Med	18.29 Pct
West_Asian	9.49 Pct
East_Med	23.71 Pct
Red_Sea	0.91 Pct
South_Asian	0.18 Pct
East_Asian	-    
Siberian	0.75 Pct
Amerindian	0.18 Pct
Oceanian	0.81 Pct
Northeast_African	-    
Sub-Saharan	0.06 Pct

[CommonSense]

Vranje is most Southern place of Serbia , i think results will be close to South Montenegrins.
Btw i just got kit from Tetovo thats just 60 km west from Kumanovo.

A154390
This also score South_Asian

North_Atlantic	22.35 Pct
Baltic	23.26 Pct
West_Med	18.29 Pct
West_Asian	9.49 Pct
East_Med	23.71 Pct
Red_Sea	0.91 Pct
South_Asian	0.18 Pct
East_Asian	-    
Siberian	0.75 Pct
Amerindian	0.18 Pct
Oceanian	0.81 Pct
Northeast_African	-    
Sub-Saharan	0.06 Pct

That's a trace amount, some people without Gypsy ancestry can score even more than 2% (especially today when the SNP count of raw data files has decreased). Anyway, Tetovo also borders Serbia, but it's connected with Kosovo and not the Pčinja district. Yet, while north of Kumanovo there is no geographic barrier, Tetovo is seperated from Kosovo by the Šar mountain, so there should be a much sharper cline over there.

[JohnnyP]

That's a trace amount, some people without Gypsy ancestry can score even more than 2% (especially today when the SNP count of raw data files has decreased). Anyway, Tetovo also borders Serbia, but it's connected with Kosovo and not the Pčinja district. Yet, while north of Kumanovo there is no geographic barrier, Tetovo is seperated from Kosovo by the Šar mountain, so there should be a much sharper cline over there.

Yeah , im Half Serbian(Zrenjanin-Vranje) half Macedonian from Kumanovo , 26 Baltic.22 North_Atl 17 west 20 east med 10 west_asia.Im testing my Macedonian parent rightnow and i will post results within 3 weeks.
Im clustering with SouthEast Serbs.