Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

[Polako]

ChromoPainter PCAs of Western Europe

[Graham]

^^^ looks good for myself. Being Scottish/English/Shetlander in ancestry. The Cornish are stereotypically put as inbred also. So that kind of makes it look more true. lol

[Osweo]

ChromoPainter PCAs of Western Europe

Nice one!

Curiously, the last plot on that page is very like what i get on the 'zoomed in' 23 and Me plot for Northern Europe.
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In both of them, I (UK20), am sat 'on the top', a bit on my own. Anyone have any idea why I'm on the periphery like this? Nothing significant to it, and just chance?

[Trog]

Who/what is Carl Anderson? I (UK39) seem to cluster near him on both plots.

[Barreldriver]

Me likes this one. Mostly because I'm situated in between Kent folks and Belgians.

[Polako]

Who/what is Carl Anderson? I (UK39) seem to cluster near him on both plots.

Troggy, you Celtic damsel...

CA is just some scientist dude who uploaded his genome online. More info here...

This is what happens when you upload your SNPs online

By the way, the info you're seeing is just scratching at the surface of the data that came out of this analysis. So there should be more stuff to come.

[Polako]

Me likes this one. Mostly because I'm situated in between Kent folks and Belgians.

BD, how's your project going?

[Polako]

Nice one!

Curiously, the last plot on that page is very like what i get on the 'zoomed in' 23 and Me plot for Northern Europe.
[SPOILER=big plot][/SPOILER]

In both of them, I (UK20), am sat 'on the top', a bit on my own. Anyone have any idea why I'm on the periphery like this? Nothing significant to it, and just chance?

Dunno, but you didn't make it into the Western British (plus Irish) cluster, while Trog did.

Eurogenes' North Euro clusters - phase 2, final results

To quote myself...

pop14 - Irish + West British: Most Irish individuals fall in this cluster, as well as British samples from Western Scotland and Wales. It's tempting to correlate this cluster with Celtic genetic ancestry in the Isles.

[Osweo]

Dunno, but you didn't make it into the Western British (plus Irish) cluster, while Trog did.

Ah well, I'm only 3/8 Irish, so little wonder I'm with the general NW Euro crowd.

Eeeee, I'd think twice about 'Celtic genetic ancestry' as a term, though! If Celtic speech appeared by the Alps, we're looking at something rather pre-Celtic from the Isles in this pop14 cluster. In terms of greater genetic imprint from the 'original Celts', I'd rather be looking at the French, indeed.


About ending up on the edge of clusters, as opposed to the centres, is there any meaning to this at all, or is it just the way the different 'pulls' end up leaving somebody more or less by chance? Grrr, I struggle to express myself...

Anyroad, keep up the good work!

[Polako]

About ending up on the edge of clusters, as opposed to the centres, is there any meaning to this at all, or is it just the way the different 'pulls' end up leaving somebody more or less by chance? Grrr, I struggle to express myself...

Yeah, there seems to be purpose to the precise placement of individuals in the tree. It appears that people who are very similar are close to each other. Also different clusters that are related in some way tend to be placed next to each other, even if they're on different branches on the tree.

But the manual doesn't explain the details of how that works. My suggestion would be to see who you're next to on those trees, and swap notes with them about their ancestry. Of course, there are also those two sheets showing segment counts and lengths, and these can be used to work out very precise affinities to individuals and populations. One thing to keep in mind is that greater lengths usually = more recent ties.