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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    It does exist in the Middle east and North Africa but no where in particular high frequencies, Kurdistan is at 6%

    Caucasus region
    Region/Haplogroup I R1a R1b G J2 J1 E T L Q N Others Sample size
    Abkhazians 3 10 3.5 47.5 26.5 2.5 0.5 0.5 5 0.5 0 0
    Adygei 2.5 10.5 2.5 53.5 14.5 7.5 1 1.5 2.5 1.5 1.5 0
    Armenians 4.5 5 30 11.5 22 10.5 6 4 3 1 0.5 2
    Avars 0 2.5 2.5 0 4.5 66.5 7 4.5 9 0 0 2.5
    Azeri 3 7 11 18 30.5 11 5.5 4 7 0 0 3
    Chechens 0.5 4 2 5.5 56.5 21 0 0 7 0 0 3
    Dargins 0.5 8.5 2 1.5 1.5 84 0 0 0 0 0 2
    Georgians 2 9 10 30 27 16 2 1.5 1.5 1 0 0
    Ingush 1 3.5 0 2 88 2.5 0 0 3 0 0 0
    Kabardino-Balkarians 3.5 21 8.5 38 15.5 5 0.5 0.5 0.5 2 0.5 2
    Karachay-Cherkessians 4 19.5 4.5 40.5 18.5 5.5 0.5 1 0 0.5 1.5 2
    Kumyks 0 13 20 12 25 21 2.5 1.5 0 0 0 5
    Lezgins 2 2.5 21.5 17.5 1.5 43.5 3.5 6 1 0 1 0
    Nogays 6 14.5 18 8 13.5 13 0 0.5 0 0.5 9 16.5
    Ossetians 6.5 2 10 56 15 2 3.5 2 0.5 1.5 0 1
    Middle East
    Region/Haplogroup I R1a R1b G J2 J1 E T L Q N Others Sample size
    Iran 0.5 15.5 9.5 10 23 8.5 6.5 3 6.5 5.5 1 10.5
    Iraq 4 5.5 9.5 2.5 19.5 43 9.5 3.5 0.5 0.5 0.5 1.5
    South Iraq (Marsh Arabs)
    0 0 3 1.5 3.5 81 6.5 0 0.5 3 0 1.5
    Jordan 3.5 1.5 18 4 13 31 26 0.5 0 0 0 2.5
    Kurdistan 6 10.5 11 5 23.5 12 12.5 5.5 2 0.1 0 11.5
    Lebanon 5 2.5 8 6.5 26 20 17.5 5 5 2 0 2.5
    Palestine 0 1.5 8.5 3 17 38.5 19.5 7 0 0 0 5
    Saudi Arabia 0 5 2 3 16 40 7.5 5 2 2.5 0 17
    Syria 5 10 13.5 3 17 30 11.5 5 3 0 0 2
    United Arab Emirates 0 7.5 4 4 10 35 11.5 5 3 2 0 8
    Yemen 0 0 0 1.5 8.5 72.5 13 0 0 0 0 0
    North Africa
    Region/Haplogroup I R1a R1b G J2 J1 E T L Q N Others Sample size
    Algeria 0 0.5 9.5 0.5 5 22 59 0 0 0.5 0 3
    Egypt 0.5 2 6 5.5 6.5 21 46 6 1 0.5 0 5
    Morocco 0 0 4.5 0.5 1.5 6.5 83 0 0 0 0 4
    Tunisia 0 0.5 2 0.5 3 16.5 72 1 0 0 0 5.5
    No it doesn't, I2 in Kurdistan has absolutely nothing to do with Slavic I2a.

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    I2 is original West Med carrier (check Sardinians)

    I2a1b's ancestors ALSO original West Med carriers.

    Baltic admixture came through female lines end of story.

    end of story.

    It's simple as that.

    R1a is original Slavic autosomal carrier.


    R1 are Indo Europeans

    I2 are ancient Anatolian Western Mediterranean people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    I2 is original West Med carrier (check Sardinians)

    I2a1b's ancestors ALSO original West Med carriers.

    Baltic admixture came through female lines end of story.

    end of story.

    It's simple as that.

    R1a is original Baltic carrier.


    R1 are Indo Europeans

    I2 are ancient Anatolian Western Mediterranean people.
    I2 is original WHG lineage, so extremelly northern European and white admixture peaking today in Baltic region.

    West Med (neolithic) original lineage is G2a.

    Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    I2 is original WHG lineage, so extremelly northern European and white admixture peaking today in Baltic region.
    Admixture doesn't mean anything though. You get a random 50/50 from both your parents and people recombinate all the time.

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    So, your Arabic face is total oposite of original I2 carriers who looked more like dark skinned Finnish user Harkonnen.

    You would be parriah among them darkie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Admixture doesn't mean anything though. You get a random 50/50 from both your parents and people recombinate all the time.
    WHG autosomal was extremelly northern, much more than in modern northern Europeans. Even Sicilian WHGs were 100% northern European genetically.

    And their facial features were more northern and robust than any modern people.

    Should I mention none of them had mud (brown) eye color but only blue?

    Those are facts.
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    If it is Slavic why it is more common among Western Balkanites but not Poles or Russians that have more Slavic admixture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    I2 is original West Med carrier (check Sardinians)

    I2a1b's ancestors ALSO original West Med carriers.

    Baltic admixture came through female lines end of story.

    end of story.

    It's simple as that.

    R1a is original Slavic autosomal carrier.


    R1 are Indo Europeans

    I2 are ancient Anatolian Western Mediterranean people.
    So, Hunther-Gatherers nailed hot Med ladies. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    So, your Arabic face is total oposite of original I2 carriers who looked more like dark skinned Finnish user Harkonnen.

    You would be parriah among them darkie.
    They looked like Nordics after 2 months vacation in Thailand


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    I2 does exist in some cases in Mesopotamia and the Levant, but this clade? Clearly Balkan.

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