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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamal900 View Post
    The thing is that the city was founded by the Amorites and so on, and they were genetically more northern shifted than say their fellow Semites in the Southern part of the levant due to having cultural and trade ties with west Asian civilizations like the Hittites and so on. Still, though, western Jewish peoples have around the same level of Canaanite ancestry as Palestinian Muslims which pretty much these studies confirms it:
    It appears the Alalakh samples are closest to the Ebla samples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    Alalakh is in the Levant. How do you manage to lose against a strawman you constructed?
    as if all ancient levantines were canaanites ..you better focus on the samples themselves. I would have expect your people to be closer to these megiddo samples but it seems it's more palestinians. Game over Yitzhak

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    Might I add that the lack of R1a results suggests that R1a was not heavily present in Central Asia at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    as if all ancient levantines were canaanites ..you better focus on the samples themselves. I would have expect your people to be closer to these megiddo samples but it seems it's more palestinians. Game over Yitzhak
    Now, you're not only arguing that one must be fully Levantine to be there, but also fully Southern Canaanite. Ok, let's take your strawman and arbitrary requirements. Some of the Philistine samples from Ancient Israel plot like I do. The outliers from Megiddo plot in Turkey and the Caucasus. Does this satisfy your silly plotting criteria? I plot like the ancient peoples from the land I'm claiming. If you require that everyone there descends from EBA Canaanites, you will disqualify some Palestinians as well, as majority of their ancestry comes from elsewhere. Do you realize that even the anti-Semites think you're stupid? You continually argue that Western Jews are mixed with Europeans, which no one disputes, but you pretend they do and that you get attacked for it. Does your Arab admixture disqualify you from living in North Africa? What's the blood quota?

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    I've read in one of those papers before yesterday that after the bronze age the Levant received an extra admixture of East African like, how can we explain this and when did this happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    I've read in one of those papers before yesterday that after the bronze age the Levant received an extra admixture of East African like, how can we explain this and when did this happen?
    I guess that was due to slavery and Islamic conquests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halgurd View Post
    Might I add that the lack of R1a results suggests that R1a was not heavily present in Central Asia at the time.
    What do you mean? Aren't the papers about West Asia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    Now, you're not only arguing that one must be fully Levantine to be there, but also fully Southern Canaanite. Ok, let's take your strawman and arbitrary requirements. Some of the Philistine samples from Ancient Israel plot like I do. The outliers from Megiddo plot in Turkey and the Caucasus. Does this satisfy your silly plotting criteria? I plot like the ancient peoples from the land I'm claiming. If you require that everyone there descends from EBA Canaanites, you will disqualify some Palestinians as well, as majority of their ancestry comes from elsewhere. Do you realize that even the anti-Semites think you're stupid? You continually argue that Western Jews are mixed with Europeans, which no one disputes, but you pretend they do and that you get attacked for it. Does your Arab admixture disqualify you from living in North Africa? What's the blood quota?
    Well palestinians plot with ancient southern levantines which is logical meanwhile people who pretend to be more indigenous don't plot with them but only with northern shifted levantines (from the far north) and outliers. And how am I supposed to trust you if you're scared to share your coordinates ...that's weird. You also tend to contradict yourself : half of your ancestry is european but you're supposed to plot with ancient southern levantines ? The same levantines that didn't have such high amount of European dna ...My point is simply that your people certainly do not have more legitimacy to claim this land and clearly didn't look like ancient hebrews. You're simply a buch of heterogeneous/mixed individuals who kept an old altered semitic tradition.

    Also don't try to bring your "antisemite" excuse here I've nothing against jews or judaism I'm simply against this nasty zionist ideology.

    What's next ? canarians being berber because of their 20-30% berber ancestry ?

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    @Pine, can you share your HarappaWorld components?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    I've read in one of those papers before yesterday that after the bronze age the Levant received an extra admixture of East African like, how can we explain this and when did this happen?
    probably zanj slave trade (they were taken directly from the east african coast)

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