Transylvanian/Romanian GEDmatch Results

[Coastal Elite]

Relative from Fagaras, Brasov. Full Transylvanian to the best of my knowledge.

k-13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.07
2 Baltic 23.78
3 West_Med 16.99
4 East_Med 16.06
5 West_Asian 11.66
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 South_Asian 1.78
8 Amerindian 0.87
9 Siberian 0.85
10 Oceanian 0.65
11 Sub-Saharan 0.19
12 Northeast_African 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 2.35
2 Serbian 4.62
3 Bulgarian 4.89
4 Moldavian 10.26
5 Hungarian 12.03
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.18
7 Croatian 13.07
8 Austrian 14.38
9 North_Italian 15.33
10 Tuscan 16.02
11 East_German 16.31
12 Italian_Abruzzo 17.56
13 West_German 17.66
14 French 18.06
15 Central_Greek 18.88
16 South_Dutch 19.24
17 West_Sicilian 19.29
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.52
19 Portuguese 19.64
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.5% Romanian + 2.5% Brahmin_UP @ 1.83
2 97.2% Romanian + 2.8% Punjabi_Jat @ 1.86
3 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Gujarati @ 1.88
4 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Kshatriya @ 1.88
5 98% Romanian + 2% Kanjar @ 1.91
6 98% Romanian + 2% Dharkar @ 1.91
7 98% Romanian + 2% Uttar_Pradesh @ 1.91
8 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Kurumba @ 1.91
9 63.4% Moldavian + 36.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.91
10 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Kol @ 1.92
11 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Irish @ 1.92
12 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Piramalai @ 1.93
13 97.8% Romanian + 2.2% Bangladeshi @ 1.93
14 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Dusadh @ 1.93
15 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Sakilli @ 1.93
16 95.5% Romanian + 4.5% West_Scottish @ 1.93
17 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Kalash @ 1.93
18 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% North_Kannadi @ 1.94
19 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Chamar @ 1.94
20 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Velamas @ 1.94

Continued

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.551623


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Moldavian +25% Polish @ 2.178683


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Assyrian + Croatian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian @ 1.134130
2 Assyrian + Croatian + South_Polish + Southwest_French @ 1.332502
3 Assyrian + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 1.363480
4 Assyrian + Moldavian + Polish + Southwest_French @ 1.431618
5 Assyrian + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.433481
6 Assyrian + Croatian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 1.481623
7 Assyrian + Croatian + Polish + Southwest_French @ 1.528684
8 Lithuanian + Romanian + Spanish_Valencia + Turkish @ 1.539381
9 Assyrian + Croatian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.549948
10 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia + Turkish @ 1.599542
11 Assyrian + Croatian + Estonian_Polish + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.600937
12 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cantabria + Turkish @ 1.614026
13 Assyrian + Croatian + Polish + Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.627902
14 Assyrian + South_Polish + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian @ 1.631067
15 Croatian + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French + Ukrainian @ 1.632446
16 Assyrian + Lithuanian + Serbian + Southwest_French @ 1.654103
17 Assyrian + Hungarian + Southwest_French + Southwest_Russian @ 1.684411
18 Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Southwest_French + Turkish @ 1.694054
19 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Southwest_French + Turkish @ 1.718240
20 Assyrian + Croatian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Aragon @ 1.727337

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 17.38
2 Atlantic 14.79
3 Baltic 14.6
4 West_Med 13.82
5 East_Med 12.54
6 West_Asian 11.56
7 Eastern_Euro 10.17
8 Red_Sea 2.02
9 South_Asian 1.62
10 Amerindian 0.55
11 Oceanian 0.48
12 Siberian 0.29
13 Northeast_African 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.05
2 Serbian 4.91
3 Bulgarian 5.5
4 Moldavian 9.29
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.09
6 Hungarian 11.25
7 Croatian 11.53
8 Austrian 11.8
9 Greek 12.84
10 Tuscan 14.29
11 North_Italian 14.33
12 East_German 14.92
13 Italian_Abruzzo 16.14
14 French 16.82
15 Central_Greek 17.24
16 Ashkenazi 17.25
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.35
18 Spanish_Galicia 17.57
19 West_German 17.86
20 South_Dutch 17.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% Moldavian + 36% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.45
2 92.2% Romanian + 7.8% West_German @ 2.66
3 92.4% Romanian + 7.6% French @ 2.73
4 92.8% Romanian + 7.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.74
5 61.3% Moldavian + 38.7% Tuscan @ 2.76
6 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.78
7 98% Romanian + 2% Gujarati @ 2.8
8 94.9% Romanian + 5.1% Southwest_English @ 2.8
9 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Norwegian @ 2.8
10 95.7% Romanian + 4.3% West_Norwegian @ 2.8
11 97.9% Romanian + 2.1% Brahmin_UP @ 2.8
12 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Kol @ 2.8
13 95.7% Romanian + 4.3% Orcadian @ 2.8
14 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Kalash @ 2.81
15 98% Romanian + 2% Kshatriya @ 2.81
16 97.5% Romanian + 2.5% Burusho @ 2.82
17 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.82
18 98.4% Romanian + 1.6% Dusadh @ 2.82
19 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Bangladeshi @ 2.82
20 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Dharkar @ 2.82

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Romanian +50% Romanian @ 3.451226


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Moldavian +25% Romanian +25% Tuscan @ 3.008139


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
1 Armenian + Croatian + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 2.342990
2 Armenian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.347114
3 Armenian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.373032
4 Armenian + Moldavian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 2.393298
5 Kurdish + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Swedish @ 2.446564
6 Armenian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian_Lviv + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.480319
7 Moldavian + Spanish_Galicia + Turkish + Ukrainian @ 2.538101
8 Moldavian + Spanish_Galicia + Turkish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.602707
9 Armenian + Moldavian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian @ 2.612052
10 Armenian + Croatian + Portuguese + Ukrainian @ 2.615440
11 Moldavian + Portuguese + Turkish + Ukrainian @ 2.616029
12 Armenian + Croatian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 2.633990
13 Armenian + Hungarian + Spanish_Cantabria + Ukrainian @ 2.658849
14 Armenian + Portuguese + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.661041
15 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + East_German + Moldavian @ 2.667048
16 Armenian + Spanish_Extremadura + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.667111
17 Kurdish + Lithuanian + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 2.683849
18 Moldavian + Portuguese + Turkish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.691943
19 Central_Greek + East_German + Moldavian + Romanian @ 2.713251
20 Armenian + Croatian + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.715545

[Jana]

I managed to extract the academic samples from Transylvania (Alba county) that David Reich compiled in his lab.

Here's how they compare against the other samples from Alba county that we found.

Very similar, shows you have done a good job

[Ion Basescul]

Full Saxon from Brasov
If he's typical then Saxons are mixed af with Romanians.
Most of his matches have German surnames. His top 5 matches are Romanians though.

Kreuzer (also has a German forename)

#	Population	Percent
1	North_Atlantic	28.8
2	Baltic	23.9
3	West_Med	16.4
4	East_Med	15.81
5	West_Asian	11.34
6	Red_Sea	1.81
7	South_Asian	0.97
8	East_Asian	0.44
9	Amerindian	0.32
10	Oceanian	0.14
11	Northeast_African	0.08

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Serbian	4.01
2	Romanian	4.49
3	Bulgarian	7.35
4	Hungarian	10.22
5	Moldavian	10.72
6	Austrian	11.77
7	Croatian	12.66
8	East_German	14.02
9	Greek_Thessaly	14.19
10	West_German	14.62
11	North_Italian	14.7
12	French	15.38
13	South_Dutch	16.25
14	Tuscan	16.29
15	Portuguese	18.06
16	Spanish_Galicia	18.54
17	Italian_Abruzzo	18.59
18	Spanish_Cataluna	18.88
19	Ukrainian_Lviv	19.16
20	South_Polish	19.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		77.1%	Bulgarian	+	22.9%	Irish	@	1.09
2		77.6%	Bulgarian	+	22.4%	West_Scottish	@	1.18
3		85%	Romanian	+	15%	Irish	@	1.28
4		85.4%	Romanian	+	14.6%	West_Scottish	@	1.31
5		77.3%	Romanian	+	22.7%	West_German	@	1.33
6		84.7%	Romanian	+	15.3%	Southwest_English	@	1.34
7		75.7%	Bulgarian	+	24.3%	Danish	@	1.35
8		75.9%	Bulgarian	+	24.1%	North_Dutch	@	1.37
9		76.5%	Bulgarian	+	23.5%	Orcadian	@	1.41
10		83.7%	Romanian	+	16.3%	Southeast_English	@	1.41
11		73.6%	Bulgarian	+	26.4%	North_German	@	1.42
12		79.2%	Romanian	+	20.8%	South_Dutch	@	1.46
13		84.7%	Romanian	+	15.3%	Orcadian	@	1.49
14		66.9%	Bulgarian	+	33.1%	West_German	@	1.49
15		84.3%	Romanian	+	15.7%	North_Dutch	@	1.5
16		76.7%	Bulgarian	+	23.3%	Southwest_English	@	1.51
17		84.2%	Romanian	+	15.8%	Danish	@	1.52
18		75.3%	Bulgarian	+	24.7%	Southeast_English	@	1.58
19		82.7%	Romanian	+	17.3%	North_German	@	1.59
20		69.3%	Bulgarian	+	30.7%	South_Dutch	@	1.63

Target: Kreuzer Distance: 2.4531% / 2.45305566 | ADC: 0.25x
70.8	Romania_Transylvania
22.4	German_West
4.8	Ashkenazi
2.0	Romani
0.0	East_German
0.0	German_east
0.0	Hungarian_Szekely
0.0	Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0	Romania_Crisana
0.0	Romania_Banat

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Target: Kreuzer Distance: 1.9656% / 1.96556330 | ADC: 0.25x
66.6	Romanian_Oltenia
21.2	German_West
10.8	Romania_Muntenia
0.8	Romani
0.6	Ashkenazi
0.0	East_German
0.0	German_east
0.0	Hungarian_Szekely
0.0	Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0	Romania_Moldavia_average
0.0	Romania_Moldavia_North
0.0	Romania_Moldavia_South
0.0	Romania_Transylvania
0.0	Romanian_Wallachia
0.0	Romania_Dobruja
0.0	Romania_Maramures
0.0	Romania_Crisana
0.0	Romania_Banat

[Leto]

77.3% Romanian + 22.7% West_German @ 1.33

Saxon? Lol.
What does he get on K13?

[Ion Basescul]

77.3% Romanian + 22.7% West_German @ 1.33

Saxon? Lol.
What does he get on K13?

What are you loling about if you don't know anything about them? Csangos are also mostly Romanians genetically, despite also having a full ethnic Hungarian cultural heritage.
That's K13.

[Jana]

77.3% Romanian + 22.7% West_German @ 1.33

Saxon? Lol.
What does he get on K13?

His north atlantic is much higher than balic so yes he is obviously a Saxon (heavily mixed ofcourse)

[Jana]

77.3% Romanian + 22.7% West_German @ 1.33

Saxon? Lol.
What does he get on K13?

His north atlantic is much higher than baltic so yes he is obviously a Saxon (heavily mixed ofcourse)

[Ion Basescul]

Another full Transylvanian Saxon, this one is slightly more North-shifted

Verhuven

#	Population	Percent
1	North_Atlantic	30.1
2	Baltic	26.02
3	West_Med	16.78
4	East_Med	14.7
5	West_Asian	7.59
6	Red_Sea	2.7
7	Amerindian	0.89
8	East_Asian	0.83
9	Sub-Saharan	0.37
10	Siberian	0.02
11	South_Asian	0.01

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Serbian	3.72
2	Romanian	6.82
3	Hungarian	7.85
4	Austrian	9.36
5	Bulgarian	9.63
6	Moldavian	9.66
7	Croatian	10.64
8	East_German	11.41
9	West_German	13.22
10	French	14.2
11	South_Dutch	14.67
12	North_Italian	15.58
13	Greek_Thessaly	16.63
14	South_Polish	16.99
15	Ukrainian_Lviv	17.05
16	Portuguese	17.45
17	Spanish_Galicia	17.7
18	Tuscan	18.01
19	Spanish_Cataluna	18.25
20	Ukrainian	18.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#		Primary Population (source)			Secondary Population (source)			Distance
1		81%	Serbian	+	19%	French	@	1.69
2		70.2%	Hungarian	+	29.8%	Tuscan	@	1.9
3		59.5%	East_German	+	40.5%	Greek_Thessaly	@	1.95
4		69.7%	East_German	+	30.3%	Ashkenazi	@	1.98
5		51.5%	South_Polish	+	48.5%	Tuscan	@	1.99
6		53.4%	Tuscan	+	46.6%	Polish	@	2
7		91.5%	Serbian	+	8.5%	French_Basque	@	2.01
8		87%	Serbian	+	13%	Southwest_French	@	2.02
9		87%	Serbian	+	13%	Spanish_Cantabria	@	2.06
10		85.4%	Serbian	+	14.6%	Spanish_Cataluna	@	2.06
11		86%	Serbian	+	14%	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon	@	2.07
12		82.5%	Serbian	+	17.5%	South_Dutch	@	2.07
13		64.4%	Austrian	+	35.6%	Greek_Thessaly	@	2.13
14		88.6%	Serbian	+	11.4%	Spanish_Aragon	@	2.14
15		74.9%	Hungarian	+	25.1%	West_Sicilian	@	2.16
16		85.3%	Serbian	+	14.7%	Spanish_Galicia	@	2.16
17		81.2%	Serbian	+	18.8%	West_German	@	2.17
18		88%	Serbian	+	12%	Southwest_English	@	2.19
19		74.4%	East_German	+	25.6%	Algerian_Jewish	@	2.2
20		87%	Serbian	+	13%	Southeast_English	@	2.21

Target: Verhuven Distance: 2.5971% / 2.59705284 | ADC: 0.25x
55.2	Romania_Transylvania
22.0	German_West
21.6	Hungarian_Szekely
1.2	Ashkenazi
0.0	East_German
0.0	German_east
0.0	Hungarian_Transylvania
0.0	Romani
0.0	Romania_Muntenia
0.0	Romanian_Oltenia
0.0	Romanian_Wallachia
0.0	Romania_Dobruja
0.0	Romania_Maramures
0.0	Romania_Banat

[Leto]

What are you loling about if you don't know anything about them? Csangos are also mostly Romanians genetically, despite also having a full ethnic Hungarian cultural heritage.
That's K13.

I'm lol'ing because he ain't like Germans of Germany. He is pretty much a Rumyn with some German

[Ion Basescul]

I'm lol'ing because he ain't like Germans of Germany. He is pretty much a Rumyn with some German

They are not Jews, so I guess they mixed with whatever was available. Hungarians in Romania also look mixed with Romanians, compared to many of them from Hungary.