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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Creo que la mayoría de los apellidos en Euskera hoy en día son los antiguos apellidos compuestos de patronímico castellano acabado en -z +toponímico en euskera, al que simplemente se le quitó el patronímico castellano . Hoy en día la mayoría de esos apellidos compuestos que quedan están en Álava.

    Pero no es un fenómeno reciente ni exclusivo del País vasco, es algo que ocurrió en toda España, aunque igual en el resto de España había menos proporción de apellidos compuestos.

    Lo de quitarse el patronímico castellano en vascos, podría estar relacionado con lo que hablamos un día de la Vizcainía y la consideración de buena cuna de los naturales de la zona del Pías Vasco actual, porque un apellido claramente vasco, significaría buena sangre. Digo esto porque la hidalguía por origen era practicamente universal en las actuales provincias de Vizcaya y Guipúzcoa, que es donde no hay apellidos compuestos en números semejantes a los que sí hay en gente nativa de Álava.

    Es solo una teoría propia, no he leído nada semejante por ahí, igual existe gente que haya planteado esto antes, pero no es muy descabellada.
    Sí, ya sabía lo de la hidalguía universal en esas provincias. Lo curioso es que en la Edad Media creo que era en toda España, supongo que todavía más en las ciudades (no tanto en los pueblos), cuando se solía añadir el lugar de origen al propio apellido, así había muchos que eran "Juan de Cáceres" o "Francisco de Alcalá" y similares. Me pregunto cuántos de estos apellidos (consistentes en ciudad de origen) en realidad esconden otro origen real. Es decir, que a lo mejor un Francisco de Alcalá de 1400 era nieto de un Antonio de Zamudio y los españoles descendientes de Francisco de Alcalá siguen teniendo el "de Alcalá" como apellido y, en realidad, su origen está en Zamudio o donde sea.

    De todas formas los españoles tenemos suerte al menos de conservar los 2 apellidos y también de que la mujer no perdiera su apellido en favor del marido (como pasa en la mayoría de países anglosajones), pues es bastante útil para buscar antepasados.

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    I'm from the Algarve (Portugal) genetically and we got similar HGvF results, and map. Have you done K13, K15, and K36? I'm wondering if we get similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iberians View Post
    I'm from the Algarve (Portugal) genetically and we got similar HGvF results, and map. Have you done K13, K15, and K36? I'm wondering if we get similar.
    K13, K15 están en la primera página de este hilo, k36 debe estar también por aquí, quotea y pon el tuyo después.
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    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
    This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 31.76
    2 West_Med 23.82
    3 North_Sea 20.35
    4 West_Asian 6.42
    5 Baltic 4.75
    6 Red_Sea 3.37
    7 East_Med 3.13
    8 Northeast_African 2.55
    9 Eastern_Euro 2.31

    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Population
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    North Sea
    20.47%
    Atlantic
    31.77%
    Baltic
    4.80%
    Eastern European
    2.11%
    West Mediterranean
    23.79%
    West Asian
    6.45%
    East Mediterranean
    3.07%
    Red Sea
    3.44%
    South Asian
    0.00%
    Southeast-Asian
    0.00%
    Siberian
    1.03%
    Amerindian
    0.00%
    Oceanian
    0.15%
    Northeast African
    2.51%
    Sub-Saharan
    0.41%


    My results in Gedmatch and Yourdnaportal. Yordnaporal gets a little more noise but it's also nice to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
    This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 31.76
    2 West_Med 23.82
    3 North_Sea 20.35
    4 West_Asian 6.42
    5 Baltic 4.75
    6 Red_Sea 3.37
    7 East_Med 3.13
    8 Northeast_African 2.55
    9 Eastern_Euro 2.31

    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    Your genetic ancestry calculator results
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    Population
    Percentage
    North Sea
    20.47%
    Atlantic
    31.77%
    Baltic
    4.80%
    Eastern European
    2.11%
    West Mediterranean
    23.79%
    West Asian
    6.45%
    East Mediterranean
    3.07%
    Red Sea
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    South Asian
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    Southeast-Asian
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    Siberian
    1.03%
    Amerindian
    0.00%
    Oceanian
    0.15%
    Northeast African
    2.51%
    Sub-Saharan
    0.41%


    My results in Gedmatch and Yourdnaportal. Yordnaporal gets a little more noise but it's also nice to see.
    Oracle? and nMonte?

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    Last edited by Gallop; 05-06-2020 at 12:17 PM.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Last edited by Gallop; 05-10-2020 at 03:27 PM.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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