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Thread: Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Khuzestan Arab from Iran
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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 38.42
    2 Southwest_Asian 22.88
    3 Gedrosia 19.39
    4 Atlantic_Med 8.22
    5 East_African 3
    6 North_European 2.83
    7 Sub_Saharan 2.12
    8 South_Asian 1.69
    9 Siberian 1.27
    10 Northwest_African 0.18

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.67
    2 Syrians (Behar) 9.44
    3 Lebanese (Behar) 10.22
    4 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.39
    5 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 11.18
    6 Jordanians (Behar) 12
    7 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.21
    8 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 13.27
    9 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.8
    10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.82
    11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.93
    12 Iranians (Behar) 14.23
    13 Iranian (Dodecad) 14.53
    14 Druze (HGDP) 15.06
    15 Palestinian (HGDP) 15.07
    16 Turks (Behar) 16.2
    17 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.69
    18 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.23
    19 Armenian (Dodecad) 18.43
    20 Samaritians (Behar) 20.32

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 60.6% Syrians (Behar) + 39.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.43
    2 58.9% Syrians (Behar) + 41.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.94
    3 61.3% Syrians (Behar) + 38.7% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.99
    4 51.5% Iranians (Behar) + 48.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.35
    5 59.3% Syrians (Behar) + 40.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.45
    6 51% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.53
    7 54.6% Jordanians (Behar) + 45.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.61
    8 53.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 46.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.62
    9 63.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 36.2% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.64
    10 55.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 44.8% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.69
    11 66.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 33.9% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.84
    12 53.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 46.6% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.86
    13 52.7% Jordanians (Behar) + 47.3% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 3.86
    14 52.8% Jordanians (Behar) + 47.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.97
    15 66.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 33.8% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.98
    16 64.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 35.3% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4
    17 75.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 24.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.02
    18 65.1% Kurd (Dodecad) + 34.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.61
    19 71.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 4.89
    20 59.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 40.1% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.98
    significantly different from regular Iranians
    Last edited by Kyp; 06-24-2020 at 09:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Those Iranians have a significant NE input!
    They have way more steppe admixture than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    They have way more steppe admixture than that.
    I didn't say Steppe. Steppe is around half North Euro only, so they maybe close to 20% Steppe if they're 10% NE.

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    Turk from Aksaray (CentralWest Anatolia)


    Gedrosian: 12.68
    Siberian: 2.78
    Northwest_African: 1.21
    Southeast_Asian: 0.55
    Atlantic_Med: 13.27
    North_European: 10.85
    South_Asian 0.00
    East_African 0.55
    Southwest_Asian: 14.84
    East_Asian: 3.47
    Caucasian: 39.82
    SSA: 0.00

    Distance to: Aksaray
    4.93901812 Turk_Central_West
    5.12165989 Turk_Central_East
    5.72169555 Turk_Anatolia
    6.28337489 Turk_West_BlackSea
    6.46387655 Turk_South
    6.77950588 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    7.07477915 Turk_Southeast
    8.08703901 Turk_Southwest
    9.82771082 Turk_East
    9.98004008 Turk_Northwest
    10.04748725 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    10.16127945 Azerbaijani
    11.18818573 Nusayri_Turkey
    11.57849731 Greek_Cappadocia
    11.65472007 Azerbaijani_Iran
    12.21020065 Greek_Crete
    12.25633714 Yoruk
    12.51457151 Turkmen_Iraq
    13.01177159 Lebanese
    13.02096387 Armenian_East
    13.56963154 Zaza
    13.63117383 Kurd_Kurmanji
    13.92365613 Uzbekistan_Jews
    13.92426300 Armenian_West
    14.15854512 Crimean_Tatar_Coast

    Target: Aksaray
    Distance: 1.5221% / 1.52208070 | ADC: 0.25x
    40.8 Turk_Central_West
    26.6 Turk_West_BlackSea
    11.8 Lebanese
    8.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
    6.6 Georgia_Jews
    6.2 Samaritians

    Target: Aksaray
    Distance: 2.6899% / 2.68994532 | ADC: 0.5x
    77.2 Turk_Central_West
    16.2 Lebanese
    4.6 Greek_Cappadocia
    1.0 Cypriots
    0.8 Greek_Crete
    0.2 Turk_West_BlackSea

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    Punjabi Jatt

    Population
    Gedrosia 39.93 Pct
    Siberian 1.92 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 2.08 Pct
    North_European 13.59 Pct
    South_Asian 29.92 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 3.49 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 9.07 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Punjabi
    Distance: 2.5256% / 2.52560184 | ADC: 0.5x
    66.0 Jatt
    20.6 Kho
    12.4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
    1.0 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh

    Target: Punjabi
    Distance: 1.2147% / 1.21471291 | ADC: 0.25x
    46.0 Jatt
    20.0 Kho
    13.4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
    10.6 Pathan
    7.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
    1.6 Saudis
    0.6 Cochin_Jews

    He has a ton of Steppe ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Turk from Aksaray (CentralWest Anatolia)


    Gedrosian: 12.68
    Siberian: 2.78
    Northwest_African: 1.21
    Southeast_Asian: 0.55
    Atlantic_Med: 13.27
    North_European: 10.85
    South_Asian 0.00
    East_African 0.55
    Southwest_Asian: 14.84
    East_Asian: 3.47
    Caucasian: 39.82
    SSA: 0.00

    Distance to: Aksaray
    4.93901812 Turk_Central_West
    5.12165989 Turk_Central_East
    5.72169555 Turk_Anatolia
    6.28337489 Turk_West_BlackSea
    6.46387655 Turk_South
    6.77950588 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    7.07477915 Turk_Southeast
    8.08703901 Turk_Southwest
    9.82771082 Turk_East
    9.98004008 Turk_Northwest
    10.04748725 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    10.16127945 Azerbaijani
    11.18818573 Nusayri_Turkey
    11.57849731 Greek_Cappadocia
    11.65472007 Azerbaijani_Iran
    12.21020065 Greek_Crete
    12.25633714 Yoruk
    12.51457151 Turkmen_Iraq
    13.01177159 Lebanese
    13.02096387 Armenian_East
    13.56963154 Zaza
    13.63117383 Kurd_Kurmanji
    13.92365613 Uzbekistan_Jews
    13.92426300 Armenian_West
    14.15854512 Crimean_Tatar_Coast

    Target: Aksaray
    Distance: 1.5221% / 1.52208070 | ADC: 0.25x
    40.8 Turk_Central_West
    26.6 Turk_West_BlackSea
    11.8 Lebanese
    8.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
    6.6 Georgia_Jews
    6.2 Samaritians

    Target: Aksaray
    Distance: 2.6899% / 2.68994532 | ADC: 0.5x
    77.2 Turk_Central_West
    16.2 Lebanese
    4.6 Greek_Cappadocia
    1.0 Cypriots
    0.8 Greek_Crete
    0.2 Turk_West_BlackSea
    Do you know from where exactly from Aksaray or do you know that he is just from Aksaray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Do you know from where exactly from Aksaray or do you know that he is just from Aksaray.
    A town in the east of Aksaray. What are the demographics of the region? Are there differences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    A town in the east of Aksaray. What are the demographics of the region? Are there differences?
    Yes there are also Kurds in Aksaray who came in last century there. If you would know from where i could say what he is. He could be nonmixed Turk or mixed. Aksaray were in last centuries famous for turkmen camel dealer. Central anatolia(Ankara, Cankiri, Kirsehir, Kirikkale, YozgatKonya, Aksaray, Nevsehir, Corum) are predominantly turkish, with some kurdish villages mostly founded in the end of 19th century after last turkish riots and at the beginning of 20th century after first kurdish riots of the republican era. Yozgat and Corum have many alevis, rest predominantly sunni with alevi minorities. Northern Centralanatolia has Circissian settlements, eastern had some armenian until 20th century, southern parts(Nevsehir/Nigde/Kayseri) also had greek orthodox population(Greek and Karamanli). Kirikkale, Kirsehir, Yozgat was known as Bozok livasi, Ankara has many famius turkmen tribes, the konya/ankara kurd which got tested had the most north european admix i ve ever seen at kurds btw, they were settled there after massacring ten thousands of Alevi turkmens in 15/16th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Yes there are also Kurds in Aksaray who came in last century there. If you would know from where i could say what he is. He could be nonmixed Turk or mixed. Aksaray were in last centuries famous for turkmen camel dealer. Central anatolia(Ankara, Cankiri, Kirsehir, Kirikkale, YozgatKonya, Aksaray, Nevsehir, Corum) are predominantly turkish, with some kurdish villages mostly founded in the end of 19th century after last turkish riots and at the beginning of 20th century after first kurdish riots of the republican era. Yozgat and Corum have many alevis, rest predominantly sunni with alevi minorities. Northern Centralanatolia has Circissian settlements, eastern had some armenian until 20th century, southern parts(Nevsehir/Nigde/Kayseri) also had greek orthodox population(Greek and Karamanli). Kirikkale, Kirsehir, Yozgat was known as Bozok livasi, Ankara has many famius turkmen tribes, the konya/ankara kurd which got tested had the most north european admix i ve ever seen at kurds btw, they were settled there after massacring ten thousands of Alevi turkmens in 15/16th century.
    If mixed it's not with Kurds. As you can see very low Gedrosian (lower than the regional average and no South_Asian which is atypical for Turkish results let alone Kurdish).
    As you can see it receives a Levantine signal.

    Is this map accurate for kurdish villages in this region?
    https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/da/map...8.4971/34.1702

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    If mixed it's not with Kurds. As you can see very low Gedrosian (lower than the regional average and no South_Asian which is atypical for Turkish results let alone Kurdish).
    As you can see it receives a Levantine signal.
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    Then he isnt mixed, i never heard something about levantine/arab people outside of Adana/Hatay/Urfa/Mardin. probably preturkic anatolian origin.

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