Hagia Sophia: Turkish court rules in favour of converting into a mosque

[The Lawspeaker]

As for your latest tourism figures in this Covid year.... Note that in 2018, tourism was 12.1 percent of Turkey's GDP. Most tourists come from European countries including Russia.

[eatensemn]

You haven't really been paying attention to what is going in European elections, it seems. So, no, your view of Europeans is that of the 1990s. We're no longer in that period.

Well, according to you all europeans are devout christians and they're electing leftist-liberals for some reason. But in the real life i see the opposite much more frequently.

[The Lawspeaker]

Well, according to you all europeans are devout christians and they're electing leftist-liberals for some reason. But in the real life i see the opposite much more frequently.

Not really.. but we have our sensitivities and those are being pushed now again and again. Mostly by our own governments. And no: if you were to look at European coalitions, you would see that most are currently center-right. In the Netherlands, the VVD is center-right conservative liberal, leading a cabinet of Christian-Democrat conservative liberal CDA, left-liberal D66 and conservative CU. We only vote and behave liberal when those sensitivities are respected.

[eatensemn]

Note that in 2018, tourism was 12.1 percent of Turkey's GDP.

Now realising, 12 percent is not that much. For example greece %20 and croatia %25. Turkey relies more on industry i think.

[Marmara]

Why do they want to pray in a Christian church and not the Mosque? Hagia Sophia should be a church or at least a museum.

Turks have Blue Mosque 300m from Hagia Sophia and it’s enough for tourists and Muslims

Muslim supremecy, the Conquest.

[Bender1999]

Sorry but a big lmfao. I'm not really proud of turks as i said many times. How can you be proud of a nation almost half of it supporting erdogan? Lol. What am i proud of? Founders of the republic and new generations.

Atatürk wanted that Turks are proud that they are Turks. And he wanted that they should be proud of their hole history. Turkish history didn’t start 100 years ago. I am proud of Huns, Bulgars, Göktürks, Oghuz, Kirgiz, Cumans, Kipchaks, Timurids, Uyghurs, Mamluks, Moguls, Beyliks, Ottomans, Safevids, Atatürk and more and more. Disliking people because of their political views are not democratic. Instead of the terrorist bastards every turkish party should talk and discuss with each other. In my family are Akp, Chp and Mhp/Iyi voters, shall they dislike each other because of their different views?

[The Lawspeaker]

Now realising, 12 percent is not that much. For example greece %20 and croatia %25. Turkey relies more on industry i think.

12 percent is a lot. It would be a shame if they lost that.

As for the ruling governments in Europe: there are only a couple with left-wing or left-liberal governments now.

[The Lawspeaker]

I think this move to the Right started already by the 2000s:



Right now only Sweden, Denmark, Italy, Austria, Portugal and Spain have left-wing coalitions.

As for the dominant political forces (both traditionally and current):



2019 EU - note that liberals are more often than not to the right as well:

[Kamal900]

Sorry but a big lmfao. I'm not really proud of turks as i said many times. How can you be proud of a nation almost half of it supporting erdogan? Lol. What am i proud of? Founders of the republic and new generations.

Now you're my enemy because i insulted arabs on purpose and you will destroy me in the whole life. Buddy, this is not the way. This is a good example of what we call backwardness.

7abiby, I don't care. I know that you're deeply OWD for you to insult us just to have some kind of association and acceptance from the west which is beyond pathetic. Unlike you, I'm proud to be who I am and so on, and I'll not pretend to be something that I'm not. We have our own heritage and so on. Some examples:

The Nabataean Arabs were known through stone inscriptions and commercial activity with their neighbors, which give an indication of the period of their settlement in the Arabian Peninsula.




A picture of the goddess "Ardhoo" or "Arso", the destructive, riding a camel as a protector of the caravan and commerce.
Assign only the god “Radhwa” the Arab god who first mentioned it at the end of the seventh century B.C. in the entirety of the Arab gods who were robbed of the Kedarians as punishment for them and mentioned “Ru-ul-da-uu”. Arso is originally Radwa.


Day three of #DuraEuropos #camel week and it's hump day (sorry not sorry) so here's a graffito of some camels in a caravan which was found in a house in block C5.


They’re a bit harder to make out in the photograph but if definitely there if you look carefully. The excavators never really cracked how to record graffiti properly at Dura, but sometimes we’re lucky and have tracings and photographs.


We will cover "King of the Arabs", his son "Abd Al-Sama2", and his daughter "Doshvari". We note the influence on the Persian names of Santarouk and his daughter, Dushavari, except for his son who is "Abd al-Sama2"(slave of the sky in Arabic). And we shall sing from the few who called themselves "the king of the Arabs" four centuries before Islam. This proves awareness of Arab identity, even if it is under the influence of the Persians or Romans.



https://twitter.com/inesandsammy/sta...20329387896838

Arab veils before and after Islam.

Arab women in veils, Palmyra:


Arab women from Algeria and Lebanon:



Apollodorus of Damascus, the Nabatean Arab archetict of Rome in the 2nd century AD:

Apollodorus was born in Damascus, Syria, at a time when it was either ruled by Nabataeans, or when they had substantial presence in it, circa 50 AD. Apollodorus is said to be of Nabataean ethnic extraction himself[5], and Damascus was part of the Roman Empire during his adulthood. Little is known of his early life, but he started his career as a military engineer[6] before meeting emperor Trajan and accompanying him during the Second Dacian War in 105 AD

Fiorella Festa Farina, Director of the Italian Institute of Culture in Damascus, described the technical prowess of Apollodorus as stemming from his cultural roots, and that he owed his mastery to "Nabataean culture filtered through Greek modes of thought."[10] He was known for his practical and robust designs. It was likely due to his influence that domes became a standard element in Roman architecture.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollodorus_of_Damascus

[eatensemn]

12 percent is a lot. It would be a shame if they lost that.

No i don't want to lose that indeed. I'm supporting very strong eu-turkey relations, as you know. For me eu-turkey alliance is an important alliance in the world of barbarians like usa, china, russia, even (upcoming) india...

But we have very unfortunate governments on both sides.