Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

**Leto** · 07-08-2020, 09:40 PM

Egyptian

Gedrosia 2.96 Pct
Siberian 0.27 Pct
Northwest_African 9.94 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.62 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian 1.14 Pct
East_African 13.73 Pct
Southwest_Asian 27.68 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 30.39 Pct
Sub_Saharan 3.27 Pct

Distance to: Khaled
3.73101863 Egyptans
13.38955937 Palestinian
14.24466216 Jordanians
15.47101160 Yemenese
18.39868202 Syrians
18.80261684 Bedouin
19.38278618 Lebanese
23.84009018 Nusayri_Turkey
24.11630361 Samaritians
24.43127095 Morocco_Jews

Target: Khaled
Distance: 2.9187% / 2.91868475 | ADC: 0.5x
94.2 Egyptans
4.4 Sephardic_Jews
1.4 Ethiopian_Jews

Target: Khaled
Distance: 1.6664% / 1.66635215 | ADC: 0.25x
86.6 Egyptans
8.8 Sephardic_Jews
3.4 Somali
0.6 Palestinian
0.6 Pulliyar

**Kyp** · 07-20-2020, 08:49 AM

Azerbaijani originally from a destroyed exclave in Northeast Armenia:

Gedrosian: 20.91
Siberian: 3.94
Northwest_African: 1.43
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.04
North_European: 7.61
South_Asian 0.98
East_African 0.26
Southwest_Asian: 11.09
East_Asian: 5.06
Caucasian: 39.68
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Qazax
2.94353529 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.68124979 Azerbaijani
3.76469122 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.17491063 Turk_Southeast
6.57539352 Turk_Central_East
6.95910195 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.00708927 Turk_South
7.15462787 Zaza
7.24928272 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.91591435 Turkmen_Iraq
7.92842986 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.25328419 Turk_East
8.34387200 Turk_Anatolia
8.76627059 Turk_Central_West
9.12696006 Kurd_Sorani
10.30001942 Kurd
10.34043519 Kurd_KAZ
10.59492331 Iranian
10.74115450 Kurds
10.78052411 Lur_Iran
10.98501707 Turk_Southwest
11.22196952 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.35484918 Yoruk
11.67186360 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.73040494 Uzbekistan_Jews

Target: Azerbaijani_Qazax
Distance: 1.6626% / 1.66259392 | ADC: 0.25x
60.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
18.6 Kurd
16.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.6 Yoruk
0.6 Daur
0.4 JPT30
0.2 Japanese
0.2 Mozabite

**Sora** · 07-20-2020, 10:45 AM

Turkish from Tokat

Gedrosia: 18.60
Siberian: 3.26
Northwest_African: 0.0
Southeast_Asian: 0.0
Atlantic_Med: 12.69
North_European: 8.73
South_Asian: 2.30
East_African: 0.0
Southwest_Asian: 11.65
East_Asian: 4.80
Caucasus: 36.43
Sub_Saharan: 0.0

Distance to: Turk_Tokat
3.72294238 Turk_Southeast
4.70290336 Turk_South
5.01437932 Azerbaijani
5.10816993 Turk_Central_East
5.16746553 Turk_Central_West
5.23673562 Turk_Anatolia
5.70221010 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.24140209 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.75962277 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.17876034 Turk_Southwest
7.44636824 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.04355019 Yoruk
9.38814678 Turkmen_Iraq
9.46746534 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.62973520 Turk_Northwest
10.25578373 Zaza
10.46202179 Turk_East
11.06645381 Kurd_Sorani
11.83412016 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.01862512 Iran_Khorasan
13.42866337 Iranian_Fars
13.74118263 Lur_Iran
13.97768937 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.09560215 Kurd
14.11368131 Iranian

Target: Turk_Tokat
Distance: 2.2261% / 2.22608454 | ADC: 0.5x
65.2 Turk_Southeast
16.8 Azerbaijani
10.2 Yoruk
6.4 Turk_Central_West
1.4 French_Basque

Target: Turk_Tokat
Distance: 0.4768% / 0.47681593
43.0 Turk_Southeast
39.2 Azerbaijani
8.6 Yoruk
2.8 Turk_Central_West
2.2 French_Basque
1.4 Turk_Anatolia
1.0 Sardinian
0.6 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
0.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.2 Hazara
0.2 Japanese
0.2 JPT30
0.2 Turkmens

**Sora** · 07-20-2020, 11:08 AM

Turk from Bolu(with 21% Mongoloid)

Gedrosia: 10.8
Siberian: 9.45
Northwest_African: 1.1
Southeast_Asian: 0.0
Atlantic_Med: 11.29
North European: 16.16
South_Asian: 1.9
East_African: 0.7
Southwest_Asian: 9.41
East_Asian: 11.18
Caucasus: 28.01
Sub_Saharan: 0.0

Distance to: Turk_Bolu
9.29552581 Yoruk
9.48371235 Turk_Northwest
11.09613446 Turk_Southwest
13.15616585 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.31880625 Turk_West_BlackSea
14.25076138 Turk_Anatolia
14.36030989 Turk_South
14.71347342 Turk_Central_West
14.87592686 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
15.72432828 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
15.98199925 Nogais
16.82239579 Turkmen_Iran
16.84594610 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.61081486 Turk_Central_East
18.22901808 Turk_Southeast
18.50631784 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
18.89240853 Uzbek
19.41052807 Azerbaijani
19.91009794 Qumuq
20.14616341 Turk_Bulgaria
20.26412100 Azerbaijani_Turkey
20.46380707 Turk_Greece
20.46505558 Turkmens
21.10540452 Azerbaijani_Iran
21.25634964 Karachay

Target: Turk_Bolu
Distance: 2.0522% / 2.05223345 | ADC: 0.25x

44.4 Yoruk
33.8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
14.8 Turk_Northwest
4.4 Yemen_Jews
2.2 Nogais
0.4 Oroqen

Bender1999 · 07-20-2020, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Sora

Turk from Bolu(with 21% Mongoloid)

Gedrosia: 10.8
Siberian: 9.45
Northwest_African: 1.1
Southeast_Asian: 0.0
Atlantic_Med: 11.29
North European: 16.16
South_Asian: 1.9
East_African: 0.7
Southwest_Asian: 9.41
East_Asian: 11.18
Caucasus: 28.01
Sub_Saharan: 0.0

Distance to: Turk_Bolu
9.29552581 Yoruk
9.48371235 Turk_Northwest
11.09613446 Turk_Southwest
13.15616585 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.31880625 Turk_West_BlackSea
14.25076138 Turk_Anatolia
14.36030989 Turk_South
14.71347342 Turk_Central_West
14.87592686 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
15.72432828 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
15.98199925 Nogais
16.82239579 Turkmen_Iran
16.84594610 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.61081486 Turk_Central_East
18.22901808 Turk_Southeast
18.50631784 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
18.89240853 Uzbek
19.41052807 Azerbaijani
19.91009794 Qumuq
20.14616341 Turk_Bulgaria
20.26412100 Azerbaijani_Turkey
20.46380707 Turk_Greece
20.46505558 Turkmens
21.10540452 Azerbaijani_Iran
21.25634964 Karachay

Target: Turk_Bolu
Distance: 2.0522% / 2.05223345 | ADC: 0.25x

44.4 Yoruk
33.8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
14.8 Turk_Northwest
4.4 Yemen_Jews
2.2 Nogais
0.4 Oroqen

Tatar var mi Boluda?

**Kyp** · 07-20-2020, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Bender1999

Tatar var mi Boluda?

Probably. I seriously doubt this is a normal Turkish result. Also low Atlantic_Med for the region.

Could be wrong though.

Another possibility is that these villages are mixed Oghuz+Tatar

**Sora** · 07-20-2020, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Bender1999

Tatar var mi Boluda?

Bilmiyorum ama toplam 4 tane %20 Mongoloid olan sonuç var. İkisi Bolu'dan, diğer ikisi de Mersin ve Muğla'dan

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...pbY/edit#gid=0

Ayrıca Youtuber Porçay'ın babasının köyü de Türkmen-Tatar karışık köymüş ama adam sadece %9 Mongoloid

Bender1999 · 07-20-2020, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kyp

Probably. I seriously doubt this is a normal Turkish result. Also low Atlantic_Med for the region.

Could be wrong though.

Exactly. And pretty high Nirth European. Turks have, conparing to others in their neighborhood and beeing nonIE, high NE but Anatolian Turks have rarely over 12-14% NE. Also caucasian is a bit low but idk whether that is normal for that region. I think he is mixed.

Bilmiyorum ama toplam 4 tane %20 Mongoloid olan sonuç var. İkisi Bolu'dan, diğer ikisi de Mersin ve Muğla'dan

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...pbY/edit#gid=0

Ayrıca Youtuber Porçay'ın köyü de Türkmen-Tatar karışık köymüş ama adam sadece %9 Mongoloid

For Mersin and Mugla i understand, also i would understand for Bolu, but the single components are different to other Turks.
For the youtuber i can say maybe this Tatars were Coastal Tatars or Caucasian Turkic. Or, that also could be, these were not Tatars just called Tatars because of the conditions and wher they came. My grandpa told me there are a family in Kirsehir which called Cerkez although they are Tatars. The official and people gave them this name because they were refugees from Russia. These tatars could be maybe Caucasians like Circissians, some score up to 10% mongoloid, some not even 3%.

**Sora** · 07-20-2020, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Bender1999

For Mersin and Mugla i understand, also i would understand for Bolu, but the single components are different to other Turks.
For the youtuber i can say maybe this Tatars were Coastal Tatars or Caucasian Turkic. Or, that also could be, these were not Tatars just called Tatars because of the conditions and wher they came. My grandpa told me there are a family in Kirsehir which called Cerkez although they are Tatars. The official and people gave them this name because they were refugees from Russia. These tatars could be maybe Caucasians like Circissians, some score up to 10% mongoloid, some not even 3%.

There are 3 main groups of Crimean Tatars(I say them because they're majority of Tatars in Turkey); Coast, Mountain, Steppe. Steppe are 28%-35% Mongoloid, Mountain are almost same as Anatolian Turks and Coastal Tatars have little-to-non Mongoloid. This result seems to be Steppe Tatar + Anatolian Turkish mix.

You can look up the averages of Tatars via here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1797482804

**mergen3** · 07-20-2020, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Kyp

Probably. I seriously doubt this is a normal Turkish result. Also low Atlantic_Med for the region.

Could be wrong though.

Another possibility is that these villages are mixed Oghuz+Tatar

yes, atlantic med is %15 in provinces close to those regions. he or she has at least 50% tatar ancestors.
I think turkish ancestors has %15 atlantic med %12-16 east eurasia %12-14 north european
Tatar ancestors has %6-8 atlantic med %24-28east eurasia %18-22 north european