Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

[mergen3]

Bilmiyorum ama toplam 4 tane %20 Mongoloid olan sonuç var. İkisi Bolu'dan, diğer ikisi de Mersin ve Muğla'dan

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...pbY/edit#gid=0

Ayrıca Youtuber Porçay'ın babasının köyü de Türkmen-Tatar karışık köymüş ama adam sadece %9 Mongoloid

Porçayın annesi dogudan bir yerdendi. Bu yuzden daha az dogu avrasya alıyor. Babasi en az %15 doğu avrasya alirdi.

[Kaspias]

I find this result interesting; such a mix gives slightly less European version of I.

Balkan Turk

1/4 Targovishte
1/4 Varna
1/4 Langaza
1/4 Kırklareli

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.42
2 North_European 24.37
3 Atlantic_Med 19.17
4 Gedrosia 9.38
5 Southwest_Asian 8.6
6 Siberian 5.63
7 East_Asian 3.36
8 South_Asian 1.53
9 Northwest_African 1.2
10 Sub_Saharan 0.29
11 Southeast_Asian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.1
2 Romanians (Behar) 15.07
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.29
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.77
5 Greek (Dodecad) 16.03
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.78
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.93
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.45
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.73
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.03
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.28
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.69
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.74
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.4
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.51
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.77
17 Turks (Behar) 24.78
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.07
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.12
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.62
2 64.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 35.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.68
3 61% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 39% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.76
4 62.7% Turks (Behar) + 37.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.94
5 64.8% Romanians (Behar) + 35.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.99
6 66.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.06
7 62.6% Turks (Behar) + 37.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.2
8 64.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.24
9 65.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.27
10 63.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.31
11 55.9% Turks (Behar) + 44.1% German (Dodecad) @ 6.6
12 67.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 32.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.97
13 58.8% Turks (Behar) + 41.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 6.98
14 76.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7.02
15 57.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.6% German (Dodecad) @ 7.07
16 59.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 40.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.09
17 72.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.19
18 61.1% Turks (Behar) + 38.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 7.23
19 66.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 33.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.25
20 57.5% Turks (Behar) + 42.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 7.26


Distance to: X
6.25980830 Turk_Bulgaria
7.03625611 Turk_Greece
7.48713563 Turk_Romania
8.67147046 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
9.47822241 Turk_Macedonia
10.73725756 R.Moldova_Gagauz
11.31350520 Gagauz
11.95752065 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
12.44565386 R.Moldova_South
13.35775056 Albanian_Kosovo
13.55973820 Pomak
13.98952823 Turk_Northwest
14.16350239 Albanian_North
14.19705561 Italy_Apulia
14.94870228 Bulgarian
15.11318630 Macedonian
15.40521353 Italy_Lazio
15.99867807 Romanians
16.16461647 Italy_Abruzzo
16.34860545 Bulgarians
16.82000113 Italy_Marche
16.86582343 Montenegrin
16.88280486 Turk_Southwest
16.93517936 Turk_West_BlackSea
17.23668834 Italy_Sicily


Target: X
Distance: 1.4079% / 1.40794806 | ADC: 0.25x
38.4 Gagauz
27.2 R.Moldova_Gagauz
21.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.6 Greek_Crete
2.4 Lebanese
1.6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
1.6 Ket
1.2 Nogais
1.0 Yemenese
0.6 Bedouin

Target: X
Distance: 3.1989% / 3.19889768 | ADC: 0.5x
73.8 R.Moldova_Gagauz
22.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.0 Lebanese
0.4 Azerbaijani

[Leto]

I find this result interesting; such a mix gives slightly less European version of I.

Balkan Turk

1/4 Targovishte
1/4 Varna
1/4 Langaza
1/4 Kırklareli

How widespread is Balkan ancestry (Balkan Turkish, Pomak, Bosniak, Albanian) in modern Turkey in your opinion? Let's say down to 25% (one grandparent).

[Kaspias]

How widespread is Balkan ancestry (Balkan Turkish, Pomak, Bosniak, Albanian) in modern Turkey in your opinion? Let's say down to 25% (one grandparent).

Pretty common in Western Anatolia considering even the isolated Yörük villages got the Balkan migration following the Russo-Turkish War. I can even say that an average Western Anatolian may have a 50-50% chance to have such an ancestor in the past. But this is something deeper, and already absorbed in most cases.

Having a recent Balkan ancestor is also common but only in some cities: Eastern Thrace as a whole, Bursa, İzmir, İstanbul, Eskişehir, Kocaeli, Çanakkale, Balıkesir, Manisa, Bilecik, Aydın, Yalova, Sakarya, Kütahya, Ankara the ones I recall immediately. In addition, there are Balkan communities who live together and marry only among each other.

[Meriç]

I find this result interesting; such a mix gives slightly less European version of I.

Altay'ın sonucuna da benziyor.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.47
2 North_European 22.23
3 Atlantic_Med 20.59
4 Gedrosia 9.55
5 Southwest_Asian 8.88
6 Siberian 6.27
7 East_Asian 2.64
8 South_Asian 2.31
9 Northwest_African 0.63
10 East_African 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.77
2 Greek (Dodecad) 15.23
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.46
4 Romanians (Behar) 16.37
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.48
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.38
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.77
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.12
9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.28
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.54
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.91
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.37
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.44
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.23
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.62
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.83
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.5
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 24
19 Turks (Behar) 24.22
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 25.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.69
2 63.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 36.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.04
3 68.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.53
4 65.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 34.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.94
5 64% Turks (Behar) + 36% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.96
6 61.9% Turks (Behar) + 38.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 7.01
7 70.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 29.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.04
8 71.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.9% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.05
9 59.9% Turks (Behar) + 40.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 7.08
10 62.7% Turks (Behar) + 37.3% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 7.15
11 62.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 37.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.18
12 61% Turks (Behar) + 39% English (Dodecad) @ 7.19
13 60.9% Turks (Behar) + 39.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 7.21
14 62.7% Turks (Behar) + 37.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 7.21
15 60.7% Turks (Behar) + 39.3% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 7.23
16 62.6% Turks (Behar) + 37.4% Irish (Dodecad) @ 7.24
17 62.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 7.26
18 62.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 37.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.27
19 61.9% Turks (Behar) + 38.1% British (Dodecad) @ 7.27
20 68.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 31.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.29

[mergen3]

Pretty common in Western Anatolia considering even the isolated Yörük villages got the Balkan migration following the Russo-Turkish War. I can even say that an average Western Anatolian may have a 50-50% chance to have such an ancestor in the past. But this is something deeper, and already absorbed in most cases.

Having a recent Balkan ancestor is also common but only in some cities: Eastern Thrace as a whole, Bursa, İzmir, İstanbul, Eskişehir, Kocaeli, Çanakkale, Balıkesir, Manisa, Bilecik, Aydın, Yalova, Sakarya, Kütahya, Ankara the ones I recall immediately. In addition, there are Balkan communities who live together and marry only among each other.

yes, my grandfather's village is isolated. but there are Bosnian and Balkan immigrants in the village. but, no one remembers the Balkan ancestor. Most of them got married with yoruks. I also have 1/16 Balkan ancestors.
Also, even in Kayseri, there are around 5-10% Balkan immigrants. But there has been a lot of mixing with Anatolian Turkish.

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[Kaspias]

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yes, my grandfather's village is isolated. but there are Bosnian and Balkan immigrants in the village. but, no one remembers the Balkan ancestor. Most of them got married with yoruks. I also have 1/16 Balkan ancestors.

Yes, this is the case in most of Aegean Yörük villages.

Also, even in Kayseri, there are around 5-10% Balkan immigrants. But there has been a lot of mixing with Anatolian Turkish.

There should be hotspots in other cities as well. Adana and Samsun the other ones I remember. The wave that came with population exchange distributed all over Anatolia, even including SE Anatolia.

[mergen3]

Yes, this is the case in most of Aegean Yörük villages.



There should be hotspots in other cities as well. Adana and Samsun the other ones I remember. The wave that came with population exchange distributed all over Anatolia, even including SE Anatolia.

yes, there are also Crete immigrants in the center of Antalya. Generally, people are very mixed in the center of Adana and Mersin. I know 3 people from Adana. they all have Balkan ancestors. but there are also Nusayri and Anatolian Turks ancestors.

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[Leto]

Hardly an Asian but whatever - half Volga Tatar, half Russian (he looks fully Europoid with light pigmentation)

Population
Gedrosia 4.04 Pct
Siberian 8.71 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.56 Pct
Atlantic_Med 15.09 Pct
North_European 50.04 Pct
South_Asian 1.37 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.43 Pct
East_Asian 4.46 Pct
Caucasus 13.18 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.12 Pct

Target: Timur
Distance: 2.8551% / 2.85514379 | ADC: 0.5x
49.2 Tatar_Kazan
29.0 Mordovian
17.0 Rus_Kostroma
4.8 R.Moldova_Centre+North

Target: Timur
Distance: 1.7360% / 1.73601445 | ADC: 0.25x
53.0 Tatar_Kazan
22.6 Mixed_Slav
18.2 Mordovian
6.2 Bulgarians

With the Mixed_Slav removed

Target: Timur
Distance: 2.8551% / 2.85514379 | ADC: 0.5x
49.2 Tatar_Kazan
29.0 Mordovian
17.0 Rus_Kostroma
4.8 R.Moldova_Centre+North

Target: Timur
Distance: 2.0576% / 2.05758049 | ADC: 0.25x
44.2 Tatar_Kazan
36.2 Mordovian
11.0 Rus_Tver
8.4 Bulgarians
0.2 Japanese

[Sora]

Pretty common in Western Anatolia considering even the isolated Yörük villages got the Balkan migration following the Russo-Turkish War. I can even say that an average Western Anatolian may have a 50-50% chance to have such an ancestor in the past. But this is something deeper, and already absorbed in most cases.

Having a recent Balkan ancestor is also common but only in some cities: Eastern Thrace as a whole, Bursa, İzmir, İstanbul, Eskişehir, Kocaeli, Çanakkale, Balıkesir, Manisa, Bilecik, Aydın, Yalova, Sakarya, Kütahya, Ankara the ones I recall immediately. In addition, there are Balkan communities who live together and marry only among each other.

100% true

There are many Balkan Turk - Anatolian Turk couples, one of them was from Manisa. I've watched a travel program and the presenter went to a Balkan(Bulgarian) Turk village in Manisa and there was a young(at least 20-25 years old) Yörük woman in the village who married to a Balkan Turk from that village. Also a member of Stardust(a Turkish girl group which will debut at 23rd August) called "Havana"(of course it's her stage name) has Balkan(Thessaloniki, Greece) Turk mother & Anatolian(Samsun) Turk father. There are more examples like that due to there is no religious or ethnical differences. There are Balkan Turks even in Tokat

I guess the Balkan Turk population in Turkey is 4%-8% and 10%-15% among ethnic Turkish population