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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Out of curiosity, I've calculated the East Eurasia average for the Turks

    Siberian 4.35
    East_Asian 4.26
    Southeast_Asian 0.59

    Total 9.2%

    Atlantic_Med - 12.4%, North_European - 10.27%.
    My data from 6 months ago.

    Trakya N= 58
    Deliorman N= 33
    Makedonya N= 24




    Siberian + East Asian + Southeast Asia


    Turk_Trakya: 8.84%. 14.89% Max, 2.17% least
    Turk_Deliorman: 6.79%. 13.19% Max, 0.65% least
    Turk_Makedonya: 4.21%. 8.55% Max, 0.41% least

    North_Europe

    Turk_Trakya: 24.42%. 28.72% Max, 19.89% least
    Turk_Deliorman: 29.01%. 34.98% Max, 24.16% least
    Turk_Makedonya: 22.81%. 30.52 Max, 16.74% least

    Atlantic_Med

    Turk_Trakya: 19.89%. 25.72% Max, 17.37% least
    Turk_Deliorman: 20.12%. 23.09% Max, 18.41% least
    Turk_Makedonya: 24.49%. 29.98% Max, 21.36% least

    Gedrosia

    Turk_Trakya: 9.15%. 14.51% Max, 4.49% least
    Turk_Deliorman: 8.13%. 12.01% Max, 5.53% least
    Turk_Makedonya: 6.85%. 9.71% Max, 2.07% least

    Caucasian

    Turk_Trakya: 26.99%. 29.61 Max, 22.79% least
    Turk_Deliorman: 26.81%. 28.89% Max, 23.14% least
    Turk_Makedonya: 27.31%. 30.14% Max, 22.46% least
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
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    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Just a general question: when amerindian would count as east eurasian admixture? I mean many europeans have it surprisingly, maybe from steppe or just calculating mistake. If first one would be the reason, then (i think?) they would must show also a bit other east eurasian admix groups like east asian or siberia. If i am not mistaken, the highest amerindian i saw for a turk was something like 2,3 or 2,5% where i would say it is an indication for steppe(central asia/turkic) ancestry. But for example just 1-1,5%, which is also common among Europeans. Idk whether it is worth mentioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Just a general question: when amerindian would count as east eurasian admixture? I mean many europeans have it surprisingly, maybe from steppe or just calculating mistake. If first one would be the reason, then (i think?) they would must show also a bit other east eurasian admix groups like east asian or siberia. If i am not mistaken, the highest amerindian i saw for a turk was something like 2,3 or 2,5% where i would say it is an indication for steppe(central asia/turkic) ancestry. But for example just 1-1,5%, which is also common among Europeans. Idk whether it is worth mentioning.
    There is no Amerindian on Dodecad K12b, so it's irrelevant. But to answer your question, in general the Amerindians are around 70% East Eurasian. In Eurasians it's not real, either noise or some ancient signal. Only people born in North or South America may have legit Amerindian ancestry.

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    Uyghur match of my father (I wonder how this can happen..):

    Distance to: Uyghurmatch
    8.06584775 Uygur
    10.81992144 Hazara
    11.44720053 Karakalpak
    12.41512787 Uzbek
    16.50678648 Kazakh
    19.03272445 Kyrgyz
    19.29620947 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    19.95367635 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    20.08685889 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
    22.03643347 Bashkir
    27.95125936 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
    29.15062778 Tajiks
    30.79384516 Turkmen_Iran
    31.44779643 Altai
    32.43566247 Pamiri_Tajik
    32.48435316 Turkmens
    33.59490884 Mongol
    33.88897313 AFG_Tajik
    33.96711351 Nogais
    33.99738666 Yoruk
    34.56781017 Yagnobi
    35.03133454 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
    35.17664708 Tatar_Kazan
    36.13606094 AFG_Pashtun
    36.71506639 Turk_Northwest

    Target: Uyghurmatch
    Distance: 1.8936% / 1.89361622 | ADC: 0.25x
    63.0 Uygur
    19.8 Hazara
    8.6 Orcadian
    7.0 Bashkir
    1.4 Lahu
    0.2 Burmanese


    Match from Russia with Muslim name:
    Gedrosian: 6.25
    Siberian: 10.33
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 1.13
    Atlantic_Med: 17.69
    North_European: 42.18
    South_Asian 1.89
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 3.75
    East_Asian: 3.71
    Caucasian: 13.08
    SSA: 0.00


    Distance to: Abdul
    6.93663463 Tatar_Kazan
    14.14218866 R.Moldova_Centre+North
    14.20454857 HUN_Szekely
    14.22344192 Komi
    15.14699310 Bosnian
    15.64765797 Croat
    15.76242050 Hungarians
    15.92666004 Slovak
    16.29720221 Slovenian
    16.88596459 Serb
    16.91919029 Veps
    17.37528705 Ukrainian
    17.53031089 Chuvash
    17.59291335 Udmurt
    18.00115830 Rus_Smolensk
    18.29706534 Rus_Kostroma
    18.60249983 Mari
    18.62080020 Sorb_Lusatia
    18.66335715 Rus_Tver
    19.26642416 Southwest_Rus
    19.32330200 Montenegrin
    19.84723910 PL_Mazovia
    20.08217618 Turk_Romania
    20.16676474 Belorussian
    20.24111410 Pomak

    Target: Abdul
    Distance: 2.9575% / 2.95752323 | ADC: 0.5x
    72.6 Tatar_Kazan
    27.4 R.Moldova_Centre+North
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Uyghur match of my father (I wonder how this can happen..):

    Distance to: Uyghurmatch
    8.06584775 Uygur
    10.81992144 Hazara
    11.44720053 Karakalpak
    12.41512787 Uzbek
    16.50678648 Kazakh
    19.03272445 Kyrgyz
    19.29620947 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    19.95367635 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    20.08685889 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
    22.03643347 Bashkir
    27.95125936 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
    29.15062778 Tajiks
    30.79384516 Turkmen_Iran
    31.44779643 Altai
    32.43566247 Pamiri_Tajik
    32.48435316 Turkmens
    33.59490884 Mongol
    33.88897313 AFG_Tajik
    33.96711351 Nogais
    33.99738666 Yoruk
    34.56781017 Yagnobi
    35.03133454 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
    35.17664708 Tatar_Kazan
    36.13606094 AFG_Pashtun
    36.71506639 Turk_Northwest

    Target: Uyghurmatch
    Distance: 1.8936% / 1.89361622 | ADC: 0.25x
    63.0 Uygur
    19.8 Hazara
    8.6 Orcadian
    7.0 Bashkir
    1.4 Lahu
    0.2 Burmanese


    Match from Russia with Muslim name:
    Gedrosian: 6.25
    Siberian: 10.33
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 1.13
    Atlantic_Med: 17.69
    North_European: 42.18
    South_Asian 1.89
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 3.75
    East_Asian: 3.71
    Caucasian: 13.08
    SSA: 0.00


    Distance to: Abdul
    6.93663463 Tatar_Kazan
    14.14218866 R.Moldova_Centre+North
    14.20454857 HUN_Szekely
    14.22344192 Komi
    15.14699310 Bosnian
    15.64765797 Croat
    15.76242050 Hungarians
    15.92666004 Slovak
    16.29720221 Slovenian
    16.88596459 Serb
    16.91919029 Veps
    17.37528705 Ukrainian
    17.53031089 Chuvash
    17.59291335 Udmurt
    18.00115830 Rus_Smolensk
    18.29706534 Rus_Kostroma
    18.60249983 Mari
    18.62080020 Sorb_Lusatia
    18.66335715 Rus_Tver
    19.26642416 Southwest_Rus
    19.32330200 Montenegrin
    19.84723910 PL_Mazovia
    20.08217618 Turk_Romania
    20.16676474 Belorussian
    20.24111410 Pomak

    Target: Abdul
    Distance: 2.9575% / 2.95752323 | ADC: 0.5x
    72.6 Tatar_Kazan
    27.4 R.Moldova_Centre+North
    Turan is strong in your Baba
    The Russian Muslim looks Tatar with less Mongoloid than average. 15% is possible for Volga Tatars, although a Russian/European grandparent is possible as well.

    @Kyp, what can this person be? His names is Alireza and he scores every possible thing, lol

    Population
    Gedrosia 13.24 Pct
    Siberian 6.34 Pct
    Northwest_African 2.16 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 3.10 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 4.96 Pct
    North_European 6.76 Pct
    South_Asian 4.69 Pct
    East_African 5.50 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 13.20 Pct
    East_Asian 14.20 Pct
    Caucasus 23.86 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 2.00 Pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Turan is strong in your Baba
    The Russian Muslim looks Tatar with less Mongoloid than average. 15% is possible for Volga Tatars, although a Russian/European grandparent is possible as well.

    @Kyp, what can this person be? His names is Alireza and he scores every possible thing, lol

    Population
    Gedrosia 13.24 Pct
    Siberian 6.34 Pct
    Northwest_African 2.16 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 3.10 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 4.96 Pct
    North_European 6.76 Pct
    South_Asian 4.69 Pct
    East_African 5.50 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 13.20 Pct
    East_Asian 14.20 Pct
    Caucasus 23.86 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 2.00 Pct
    I have absolutely no clue. Maybe a mixed person? I think a look at his matches would make the most sense.

    Maybe Arab/Central Asian mix? I think such a mix can be quite common in UAE/Saudi Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    I have absolutely no clue. Maybe a mixed person? I think a look at his matches would make the most sense.

    Maybe Arab/Central Asian mix?
    I would say Afro-Iranian+Turkic or Hazara? Without Afican admixture the result would look like Turkic or mixed Hazara(7% or nearly 10 if you count North African too, add this to Gedrosia) The name is common among Iranians i would guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    I would say Afro-Iranian+Turkic or Hazara? Without Afican admixture the result would look like Turkic or mixed Hazara(7% or nearly 10 if you count North African too, add this to Gedrosia) The name is common among Iranians i would guess?
    I don't know if Afro-Iranians are that common to be honest. I looked up the name Alireza and it looks like its also very common in Saudi Arabia not only Iran.

    Also such a mix probably would have much higher Gedrosian.

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    Yeah, this is what he gets

    Target: alireza
    Distance: 2.5497% / 2.54967017 | ADC: 0.25x
    22.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    19.6 Turkmen_Iran
    15.0 Yoruk
    12.8 Egyptans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    I don't know if Afro-Iranians are that common to be honest. I looked up the name Alireza and it looks like its also very common in Saudi Arabia not only Iran.
    Idk about Saudi Arabia but it could be. It is also a turkish name but not very common. Could be an Arab, but are Saudis really African influenced? I would say yes but the Saudi results which i saw were nearly none to no African influenced. Also Gedrosia/Caucasia is still high for half Arab half CA, also low SW Asian. But idk, it could be everything how the result looks.

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