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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Here you go, only unmixed ethnic Romanians/Moldovans (422 samples):

    Left = North Atlantic (Northwestern) shift
    Right = no idea
    Up = Baltic (Northeastern) shift
    Down = Med (Southern) shift


    + minorities, but without Jews and Roma, because then the rest will be too close together to understand the graph


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    + minorities, but without Jews and Roma, because then the rest will be too close together to understand the graph

    Same PCA, but limited to the region of Moldavia


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    Top 50 distances, all family + other users from Moldova - Zmey Gorynych, Daos and his dad







    Dad is the only reference for Orhei, hence the distance of 0







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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Top 50 distances, all family + other users from Moldova - Zmey Gorynych, Daos and his dad
    Jó estét kívánok, it looks like I should work at the Hungarian embassy in Moldova.

    Distance to: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
    3.22308858 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    4.91383760 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
    5.67508590 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian

    Distance to: Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage
    7.37862453 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    7.74595378 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    8.96302404 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

    Distance to: Ion_Basescul_mother_MyHeritage
    7.81368671 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    8.70105741 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    10.02184115 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

    Distance to: Ion_Basescul_father_MyHeritage
    5.91799797 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    6.04860314 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    7.17375076 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

    Distance to: Zmey_Gorynych_1/2Telenesti_1/2Ialoveni
    7.51664154 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    7.89787313 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    9.06112024 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

    Distance to: Daos_3/4Slavic_1/4Drochia
    9.03240832 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    11.70947907 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    12.20018033 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

    Distance to: Daos_dad_1/2Slavic_1/2Drochia
    10.01790896 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    12.43022124 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    13.32729905 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Jó estét kívánok, it looks like I should work at the Hungarian embassy in Moldova.

    Distance to: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
    3.22308858 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    4.91383760 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
    5.67508590 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian

    Distance to: Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage
    7.37862453 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    7.74595378 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    8.96302404 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

    Distance to: Ion_Basescul_mother_MyHeritage
    7.81368671 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    8.70105741 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    10.02184115 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

    Distance to: Ion_Basescul_father_MyHeritage
    5.91799797 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    6.04860314 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    7.17375076 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

    Distance to: Zmey_Gorynych_1/2Telenesti_1/2Ialoveni
    7.51664154 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    7.89787313 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    9.06112024 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

    Distance to: Daos_3/4Slavic_1/4Drochia
    9.03240832 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    11.70947907 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    12.20018033 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

    Distance to: Daos_dad_1/2Slavic_1/2Drochia
    10.01790896 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian
    12.43022124 Romania_Moldavia_Csango
    13.32729905 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler
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    The last name is literally "Moldovan" (Christine Moldovan)

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 25.03
    2 North_Atlantic 24.67
    3 East_Med 17.48
    4 West_Med 16.77
    5 West_Asian 7.82
    6 South_Asian 2.06
    7 Oceanian 1.57
    8 Amerindian 1.5
    9 Siberian 1.16
    10 Red_Sea 1.08
    11 Sub-Saharan 0.36
    12 East_Asian 0.31
    13 Northeast_African 0.21

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 4.09
    2 Serbian 4.82
    3 Bulgarian 5.77
    4 Moldavian 10.06
    5 Hungarian 11.71
    6 Croatian 12.53
    7 Greek_Thessaly 12.81
    8 Austrian 14.56
    9 North_Italian 15.9
    10 East_German 16.21
    11 Tuscan 16.64
    12 West_German 18.12
    13 French 18.56
    14 Italian_Abruzzo 18.91
    15 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.91
    16 South_Polish 19.51
    17 South_Dutch 19.74
    18 Portuguese 19.82
    19 West_Sicilian 19.91
    20 Central_Greek 19.94

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 68.2% Greek_Thessaly + 31.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.84
    2 50.2% West_Sicilian + 49.8% Ukrainian @ 2.87
    3 60.1% West_Sicilian + 39.9% Estonian @ 3.04
    4 70.1% Greek_Thessaly + 29.9% Finnish @ 3.2
    5 61.9% Croatian + 38.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.2
    6 51.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.22
    7 70.5% Greek_Thessaly + 29.5% Estonian @ 3.24
    8 52.4% Hungarian + 47.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.27
    9 50.5% South_Polish + 49.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.27
    10 56.4% West_Sicilian + 43.6% Estonian_Polish @ 3.31
    11 60.9% West_Sicilian + 39.1% Lithuanian @ 3.32
    12 55.5% South_Italian + 44.5% Estonian @ 3.34
    13 53.8% West_Sicilian + 46.2% Polish @ 3.37
    14 58.6% Tuscan + 41.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.41
    15 70.4% Croatian + 29.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.43
    16 63.4% Tuscan + 36.6% Erzya @ 3.44
    17 54% West_Sicilian + 46% Southwest_Russian @ 3.45
    18 56% West_Sicilian + 44% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.48
    19 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% South_Polish @ 3.49
    20 67.5% Moldavian + 32.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.5


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 16.78
    2 North_Sea 16.65
    3 East_Med 13.91
    4 Baltic 13.17
    5 West_Med 12.85
    6 Eastern_Euro 12.23
    7 West_Asian 7.76
    8 South_Asian 1.6
    9 Oceanian 1.45
    10 Red_Sea 1.2
    11 Amerindian 1.14
    12 Siberian 0.45
    13 Southeast_Asian 0.4
    14 Sub-Saharan 0.25
    15 Northeast_African 0.17

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Serbian 4.31
    2 Romanian 5.29
    3 Bulgarian 6.91
    4 Moldavian 10.07
    5 Austrian 10.71
    6 Hungarian 11.24
    7 Croatian 11.49
    8 Greek_Thessaly 12.4
    9 Greek 13.17
    10 North_Italian 13.8
    11 Tuscan 14.27
    12 East_German 14.6
    13 French 16.16
    14 Italian_Abruzzo 16.63
    15 Spanish_Galicia 16.86
    16 Portuguese 16.99
    17 South_Dutch 17.11
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.39
    19 West_German 17.54
    20 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.64

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 86.6% Serbian + 13.4% West_Sicilian @ 3.37
    2 82.7% Serbian + 17.3% Greek @ 3.38
    3 62.1% Greek + 37.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.38
    4 62.2% Tuscan + 37.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.39
    5 90.8% Serbian + 9.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.42
    6 90.8% Serbian + 9.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.5
    7 89.6% Serbian + 10.4% South_Italian @ 3.53
    8 91.4% Serbian + 8.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.58
    9 88.1% Serbian + 11.9% Central_Greek @ 3.58
    10 83.3% Serbian + 16.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.59
    11 92.6% Serbian + 7.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.6
    12 88.8% Serbian + 11.2% East_Sicilian @ 3.61
    13 85.5% Serbian + 14.5% Tuscan @ 3.61
    14 88.2% Serbian + 11.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.62
    15 87.5% Serbian + 12.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.62
    16 64.4% Tuscan + 35.6% Erzya @ 3.63
    17 93.2% Serbian + 6.8% Cyprian @ 3.63
    18 92.9% Serbian + 7.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.64
    19 94.3% Serbian + 5.7% Sardinian @ 3.69
    20 97.8% Serbian + 2.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 3.7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    The last name is literally "Moldovan"
    If the last name is Moldovan, then it's very likely that she's not from the region of Moldavia. Probably Transylvania, but I'll have to ask to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Here you go, only unmixed ethnic Romanians/Moldovans (422 samples):

    Left = North Atlantic (Northwestern) shift
    Right = no idea
    Up = Baltic (Northeastern) shift
    Down = Med (Southern) shift


    Interesting, nice work!

    Some comments to the PCA:

    1. It's interesting how RM occupies a larger space than Romania, probably because of the recent East Slavic admixture.

    2. Botosani, Suceava and Tulcea get into the RM area for obvious reasons, though I did expect Vaslui to be there as well.

    3. Timis is close to Bucharest - this one is wild, although we knew that Banat is pretty dark - it's not that surprising considering that it was populated with Olteni and Serbs in the 18th century.

    4. you can rotate the PCA 45 degrees clockwise so that we can align the cardinal directions better.
    Last edited by ixulescu; 08-21-2020 at 10:21 PM.

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    First results from Telenesti (Republic of Moldova) and I got two of them at once. Nice



    I think this one is almost identical to mine.

    North_Atlantic 25.38 Pct
    Baltic 29.74 Pct
    West_Med 14.85 Pct
    West_Asian 10.34 Pct
    East_Med 12.30 Pct
    Red_Sea 2.85 Pct
    South_Asian 1.14 Pct
    East_Asian 0.60 Pct
    Siberian 1.35 Pct
    Amerindian 0.91 Pct
    Oceanian 0.45 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 0.10 Pct

    North_Atlantic 23.95 Pct
    Baltic 32.71 Pct
    West_Med 13.95 Pct
    West_Asian 12.72 Pct
    East_Med 11.65 Pct
    Red_Sea 1.60 Pct
    South_Asian 0.21 Pct
    East_Asian 0.25 Pct
    Siberian 2.85 Pct
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 0.10 Pct

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    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 29.74
    2 North_Atlantic 25.38
    3 West_Med 14.85
    4 East_Med 12.3
    5 West_Asian 10.34
    6 Red_Sea 2.85
    7 Siberian 1.35
    8 South_Asian 1.14
    9 Amerindian 0.91
    10 East_Asian 0.6
    11 Oceanian 0.45
    12 Sub-Saharan 0.1


    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Moldavian 4.09
    2 Serbian 4.3
    3 Croatian 6.9
    4 Romanian 7.25
    5 Hungarian 7.53
    6 Bulgarian 9.58
    7 Austrian 11.36
    8 East_German 12.5
    9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.02
    10 South_Polish 13.97
    11 Ukrainian 14.57
    12 West_German 17.42
    13 Polish 17.46
    14 Southwest_Russian 17.79
    15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.93
    16 Greek_Thessaly 18.09
    17 South_Dutch 18.9
    18 Russian_Smolensk 19.51
    19 French 19.61
    20 Tatar 19.9


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 64.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 35.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.12
    2 51.5% Moldavian + 48.5% Serbian @ 1.67
    3 86.6% Moldavian + 13.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.74
    4 64.7% Romanian + 35.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.75
    5 65.7% Moldavian + 34.3% Romanian @ 1.84
    6 85.8% Moldavian + 14.2% Tuscan @ 1.85
    7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% West_Sicilian @ 2
    8 62.3% Ukrainian + 37.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.02
    9 69.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 30.6% South_Italian @ 2.02
    10 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.06
    11 78.4% Croatian + 21.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.12
    12 66.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.2
    13 89.5% Moldavian + 10.5% South_Italian @ 2.22
    14 51.4% Croatian + 48.6% Romanian @ 2.23
    15 91% Moldavian + 9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.24
    16 88.4% Moldavian + 11.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.24
    17 85.7% Moldavian + 14.3% North_Italian @ 2.25
    18 65.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 34.1% Central_Greek @ 2.25
    19 71.6% Romanian + 28.4% Polish @ 2.27
    20 91.7% Moldavian + 8.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.28

    Distance to: Moldova_Telenesti_1
    4.30571713 Moldova_North
    4.31678121 Moldova_Centre
    9.15156817 Moldova_South
    10.29519305 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    12.94660959 Moldova_Bulgarian
    13.42686114 Moldova_South_Gagauz
    14.82542411 Ukrainian_Lviv
    14.87218881 Moldova_Ukrainian
    16.54844101 Ukrainian
    22.13887531 Russian_Smolensk
    25.87772594 Crimean_Tatar
    27.24859079 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
    29.47454718 Russian_Pinega
    33.24506881 Moldova_Jewish
    34.66162864 Moldova_Roma


    Target: Moldova_Telenesti_1
    Distance: 1.6154% / 1.61536037 | ADC: 0.25x
    77.6 Moldova_North
    20.4 Moldova_Bulgarian
    1.6 Crimean_Tatar
    0.4 Moldova_Roma

    -Bulgarian
    Target: Moldova_Telenesti_1
    Distance: 2.2084% / 2.20839460 | ADC: 0.25x
    75.0 Moldova_North
    21.0 Moldova_South
    2.2 Moldova_Roma
    1.8 Crimean_Tatar

    -Moldova_South, Gagauz
    Target: Moldova_Telenesti_1
    Distance: 2.5055% / 2.50553275 | ADC: 0.25x
    59.0 Moldova_North
    37.2 Moldova_Centre
    2.6 Moldova_Roma
    1.2 Crimean_Tatar

    Distance to: Moldova_Telenesti_1
    2.21522008 Moldova_Straseni
    2.22409532 Moldova_Calarasi
    3.50257048 Moldova_Balti
    4.20316547 Moldova_Orhei
    4.44967415 Moldova_Ocnita
    4.63688473 Moldova_Chisinau
    4.83390112 Moldova_Ialoveni
    4.88221261 Moldova_Eurogenes
    5.25709045 Moldova_Nisporeni
    5.45809491 Moldova_Briceni
    6.13617959 Moldova_Transnistria
    6.24622286 Moldova_Edinet
    6.30446667 Moldova_Cimislia
    6.57488403 Moldova_Ungheni
    6.90773480 Moldova_Soldanesti
    7.03299367 Moldova_Glodeni
    7.18874120 Moldova_Falesti
    7.32117477 Moldova_Causeni
    7.67328482 Moldova_Rezina
    7.77305603 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic
    8.38401455 Moldova_Hincesti
    8.91208169 Moldova_Cahul
    9.69128474 Moldova_Floresti
    10.61748087 Moldova_StefanVoda
    12.81860367 Moldova_Cantemir

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